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> Big Type IV or Suby Swap - Opinions Please
Jengah
post Jul 1 2018, 11:15 AM
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I've been lurking for a few months here and could use some help/opinions. I've decided my next project will be a 914 with a extra HP, but can't decide on my route. This would just be a weekend car for twisty roads and occasional track days. I'd like it to be functional so I can still take my wife around in it.

I've had a 914 before (back in H.S.) so I know the car and have shadetree mechanic skills that have helped me maintain/DE my previous fun cars (e30M3, e36M3) so I plan on doing all of the work myself. That being said, I don'nt want to make this unneccesarily challenging (some of you guys are way more patient, skilled, and braver than I am). If I go with a Suby motor, I'll do the NA route. I'm considering either an EJ25 or EZ30.

So, the Suby engine is most likely going to have more reliability/last long the higher we get up in HP. It also seems to be the less expensive route. However, it is definitly the slower and more complicated route.

Does anyone with experience having tried both engines have opinions and advice on which is better or what the pro/cons are?
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post Jul 3 2018, 01:02 AM
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Irreversibly cutting your car up to do a watercooled conversion
Just isnt my style .


So big /4 is where its at for me

I mean why would you want fuel injection
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When you could have webbers ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif)
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post Jul 3 2018, 03:11 PM
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Irreversibly cutting your car up to do a watercooled conversion
Just isnt my style .


All it takes to put it back is the a bit of (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) to return it back to an air cooled car. After all the hole in my frunk is the same size I would need for an oil cooler for my big 4 or Porsche-6.
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[quote name='914forme' date='Jul 3 2018, 02:11 PM' post='2625784']
[quote name='thelogo' post='2625631' date='Jul 3 2018, 03:02 AM']
Irreversibly cutting your car up to do a watercooled conversion
Just isnt my style .
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All it takes to put it back is the a bit of (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) to return it back to an air cooled car.









Ok , let me know when a guy around here does that with his concourse car , then ill be convinced
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post Jul 3 2018, 08:31 PM
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[quote name='thelogo' date='Jul 3 2018, 09:29 PM' post='2625842']
[quote name='914forme' date='Jul 3 2018, 02:11 PM' post='2625784']
[quote name='thelogo' post='2625631' date='Jul 3 2018, 03:02 AM']
Irreversibly cutting your car up to do a watercooled conversion
Just isnt my style .
[/quote]

All it takes to put it back is the a bit of (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) to return it back to an air cooled car.

Ok , let me know when a guy around here does that with his concourse car , then ill be convinced
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That one is easy or maybe it is too easy. Lots of 914 on here that get brought back from a far worse fate than a conversion.

From this:
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All documented right here

And that car was far worse than some simple bolt ins that other have done to their cars.




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Jengah   Big Type IV or Suby Swap - Opinions Please   Jul 1 2018, 11:15 AM
Steve   I’m not a fan of big 4’s. I had a 2.4 liter b...   Jul 1 2018, 11:26 AM
SirAndy   Suby all the way, cheaper, more HP from a stock mo...   Jul 1 2018, 11:43 AM
ConeDodger   The only downside is the radiator ... :shades2: ...   Jul 1 2018, 06:41 PM
914forme   I have had all flavors except a V8. Large Type - ...   Jul 1 2018, 11:44 AM
Jengah   I have had all flavors except a V8. Large Type -...   Jul 2 2018, 08:45 PM
914forme   If I where doing it again, I would go LS with a Bo...   Jul 1 2018, 11:46 AM
Mueller   I'm putting a more or less stock 1.8 /4 back i...   Jul 1 2018, 12:00 PM
Porschef   Good question, great debate. I think if you can be...   Jul 1 2018, 01:07 PM
Mark Henry   I’m not a fan of big 4’s. Large Type - 4 ...   Jul 2 2018, 06:05 PM
Mark Henry   dp   Jul 2 2018, 06:14 PM
Jengah   Good question, great debate. I think if you can b...   Jul 2 2018, 08:48 PM
A&P Mech   I have run the stock 2.0l, a subaru EJ253 and ez30...   Jul 1 2018, 01:41 PM
Robnxious   From what I have been told, the Suby conversion is...   Jul 1 2018, 02:53 PM
flmont   I ended up going Subie because the Big 4 rebuild ...   Jul 1 2018, 04:17 PM
mepstein   The nice thing about the suby swaps is that once t...   Jul 1 2018, 04:34 PM
Elliot Cannon   Large type IV = more cost less work. Subie = less...   Jul 1 2018, 05:28 PM
bandjoey   (Ad Copy from Ebay..no affiliation, info only) 13...   Jul 1 2018, 06:30 PM
Andyrew   (Ad Copy from Ebay..no affiliation, info only) 1...   Jul 2 2018, 02:00 PM
mepstein   (Ad Copy from Ebay..no affiliation, info only) ...   Jul 2 2018, 02:17 PM
76-914   I've a 2.0, an EZ-30D and a 327-300. No contes...   Jul 2 2018, 01:36 PM
bandjoey   200hp should make the 914 a happy driver car and e...   Jul 2 2018, 02:49 PM
BIGKAT_83   I'd vote for the Subaru over any type 4 engine...   Jul 2 2018, 03:16 PM
Andyrew   I think if I was doing another conversion I woul...   Jul 2 2018, 04:09 PM
Jengah   What about opinions on transmissions? I'm in...   Jul 2 2018, 08:55 PM
Chris H.   That trans will work fine for a Subaru conversion....   Jul 2 2018, 09:45 PM
Jengah   That trans will work fine for a Subaru conversion...   Jul 2 2018, 10:01 PM
thelogo   Irreversibly cutting your car up to do a watercool...   Jul 3 2018, 01:02 AM
falcor75   Irreversibly cutting your car up to do a watercoo...   Jul 3 2018, 02:20 AM
914forme   Irreversibly cutting your car up to do a watercoo...   Jul 3 2018, 03:11 PM
mepstein   Irreversibly cutting your car up to do a waterco...   Jul 3 2018, 03:22 PM
thelogo   [quote name='thelogo' post='2625631...   Jul 3 2018, 07:29 PM
Mueller   [quote name='thelogo' post='2625631...   Jul 3 2018, 07:37 PM
914forme   [quote name='914forme' date='Jul 3 20...   Jul 3 2018, 08:31 PM
mgp4591   Irreversibly cutting your car up to do a watercoo...   Jul 3 2018, 03:37 PM
thelogo   Irreversibly cutting your car up to do a waterco...   Jul 3 2018, 07:35 PM
DaveO90s4   Subie or big type 4? Neither. See Marcus' ...   Jul 3 2018, 04:46 AM
Mueller   Subie or big type 4? Neither. See Marcus...   Jul 3 2018, 03:11 PM
914forme   What I meant was things like suspension , brakes, ...   Jul 3 2018, 03:06 PM
Mark Henry   What is the cost of a subi conversion? Just like t...   Jul 3 2018, 05:00 PM
mgp4591   What is the cost of a subi conversion? Just like ...   Jul 3 2018, 06:21 PM
Rand   Why would you NOT want the advantages? Why do all...   Jul 3 2018, 05:12 PM
Jonathan Livesay   I have a subie conversion with a WRX STI 2.5, and ...   Jul 3 2018, 05:27 PM
914forme   Mark I will try - low end $200 American dolla...   Jul 3 2018, 06:40 PM
mgp4591   If it's a Concours car, there's no reason ...   Jul 3 2018, 08:49 PM
thelogo   To quote alec baldwin in the cooler You dont fuck...   Jul 3 2018, 10:02 PM
Craigers17   Not sure if anyone has tried this yet, but if we...   Jul 4 2018, 02:26 AM
DaveO90s4   I like having the OEM storage space up front I lik...   Jul 4 2018, 03:40 AM
thelogo   https://youtu.be/s33dP0ETrCo Really listen to t...   Jul 4 2018, 06:03 AM


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