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post Aug 2 2018, 11:33 AM
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So I am hearing this is a very attractive setup for 4+ cylinder engines, and can be made to work with ITB setups for a flat six, such as PMO's. The 4BBL pricing sure is right, and it's said to be "self tuning" and a dream to work with/on.

Anyone have any experience of this, or know of a Porsche engine running it?
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post Aug 2 2018, 08:07 PM
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I've been eyeballing one of these for Dads old Chevy: Go EFI 4 600HP System with timing control.

I wouldn't do a center mount FI on a 914, runners are too wide, plus it's backwards engineering. Essentially it's TBI from the 80s.

For the 914n6 I've got my eye on ECUMASTER EMU BLACK STANDALONE ECU. Overkill but pre-programmed for the VQ35 swap. A little cheaper without the Autotune.
I've read the DIYEFI/MS3 tech is not up to today's standards.
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post Aug 3 2018, 08:33 AM
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QUOTE(Chris914n6 @ Aug 2 2018, 09:07 PM) *

For the 914n6 I've got my eye on ECUMASTER EMU BLACK STANDALONE ECU. Overkill but pre-programmed for the VQ35 swap. A little cheaper without the Autotune.
I've read the DIYEFI/MS3 tech is not up to today's standards.


The ECUMaster stuff looks quite good. I'm dying to try it out. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Their sales and engineering organizations are pretty engaged with consumers (especially the guys at ECUMaster USA) too which is really nice.

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When I think about EFI, I like the idea of the "who" behind the system.

Any company can go out, but I put more stock in Holley or something like Andrew pointed out (the MS3 unit). I think about some of the old Haltech or other random systems, and trying to keep a 368 or 486 laptop going to support them.


Who is good, but AFAIK the Holley system is quite under-performing compared to almost everything else available. They're famed as a carb company, not an ECU manufacturer. IMHO you're better off going with component from someone who specialized in the engine controls/data acquisition market.

Companies like Haltech are still around and make good products-it's a somewhat unrealistic expectation that a company will allow backwards ECU compatibility with all of their software package changes. You face the same issues in the industrial world with needing old computers to talk to ancient electronics, even those with companies still in existence making high end products.
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Companies like Haltech are still around and make good products-it's a somewhat unrealistic expectation that a company will allow backwards ECU compatibility with all of their software package changes. You face the same issues in the industrial world with needing old computers to talk to ancient electronics, even those with companies still in existence making high end products.



One of the main reasons why I like MS so much. They do a LOT to make sure they have backwards and forwards compatability. Its just the hardware itself that they change to make the packaging better and have a more "All in one" unit. Thats really the only difference in their systems.

Microsquirt is a hair different, but its designed to be a simple fully enclosed unit for cheaper than anything else.
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horizontally-opposed   Holley EFI   Aug 2 2018, 11:33 AM
Vacca Rabite   I know of a corvair 6 (in a bus) that was running ...   Aug 2 2018, 11:52 AM
Andyrew   I would much prefer MS3 Pro EVO. Im considering th...   Aug 2 2018, 01:29 PM
Chris914n6   I've been eyeballing one of these for Dads old...   Aug 2 2018, 08:07 PM
burton73   I've been eyeballing one of these for Dads ol...   Aug 2 2018, 08:15 PM
jd74914   For the 914n6 I've got my eye on [url=https:/...   Aug 3 2018, 08:33 AM
Andyrew   Companies like Haltech are still around and make...   Aug 3 2018, 09:56 AM
Andyrew   That Goefi is an awesome looking piece of hardware...   Aug 2 2018, 09:18 PM
horizontally-opposed   When I think about EFI, I like the idea of the ...   Aug 2 2018, 11:09 PM
ConeDodger   When I think about EFI, I like the idea of the ...   Aug 3 2018, 06:40 PM
Mark Henry   When I think about EFI, I like the idea of the ...   Aug 3 2018, 09:58 PM
Mark Henry   [quote name='horizontally-opposed' post='263...   Aug 8 2018, 09:22 AM
ConeDodger   [quote name='horizontally-opposed' post='26...   Aug 8 2018, 10:57 AM
Mark Henry   So this is for a /6? What is the cars use and your...   Aug 3 2018, 10:51 AM
914pipe   I'm going to experiment with Speeduino, that w...   Aug 3 2018, 07:59 PM
Mark Henry   I'm going to experiment with Speeduino, that ...   Aug 3 2018, 10:06 PM
914forme   I'm going to experiment with Speeduino, that...   Aug 4 2018, 11:34 AM
ConeDodger   [quote name='Mark Henry' post='2635263' date='Aug...   Aug 4 2018, 12:56 PM
914forme   No one is criticizing the SDS support. It’s the...   Aug 4 2018, 07:07 PM
Matty900   I am running a microsquirt (MS2) system with ITBs ...   Aug 3 2018, 10:15 PM
914four   Anyone using this Magasquirt package from the Dub ...   Aug 4 2018, 07:13 AM
horizontally-opposed   A number of good options. I would probably choose ...   Aug 4 2018, 02:18 PM
914pipe   A number of good options. I would probably choose...   Aug 4 2018, 11:10 PM
Andyrew   Ya but the Holley efi was essentially designed for...   Aug 5 2018, 12:30 AM
horizontally-opposed   Apparently, Holley recently released a system set ...   Aug 5 2018, 10:10 AM
Vacca Rabite   Meanwhile, threads like these are what has kept ...   Aug 7 2018, 12:51 PM
Travis Neff   Holley seems to have a few efi systems, which one ...   Aug 5 2018, 08:37 PM
horizontally-opposed   Holley seems to have a few efi systems, which one...   Aug 6 2018, 10:58 AM
Mueller   Chris Baker (tygaboy) is going to use the Holley H...   Aug 6 2018, 12:11 PM
ConeDodger   Chris Baker (tygaboy) is going to use the Holley ...   Aug 7 2018, 01:39 PM
Mueller   I worry about “Hot Rod and other V8 biased...   Aug 7 2018, 01:46 PM
jd74914   I worry about “Hot Rod and other V8 biased” m...   Aug 7 2018, 02:17 PM
horizontally-opposed   ^ It's a fair worry with some of those books. ...   Aug 7 2018, 03:43 PM
Chris914n6   The innovative stuff isn't going to come from ...   Aug 7 2018, 03:55 PM
burton73   For a GM V8 It looks like all the parts for the S...   Aug 7 2018, 04:13 PM
Mark Henry   Again I wasn't really hauling it as it's h...   Aug 8 2018, 10:22 AM
horizontally-opposed   Suspect we are turning a corner from aftermarket E...   Aug 8 2018, 11:01 AM
Mark Henry   Suspect we are turning a corner from aftermarket ...   Aug 8 2018, 12:21 PM
Mark Henry   What is your project? stock engine? rebuilt? good...   Aug 8 2018, 02:49 PM
Mueller   I saw this motor on Hemmings today, I bet one coul...   Aug 10 2018, 03:15 PM
mb911   I saw this motor on Hemmings today, I bet one cou...   Aug 11 2018, 06:56 AM
horizontally-opposed   I saw this motor on Hemmings today, I bet one cou...   Aug 11 2018, 08:04 AM
73-914   bet it doesn't run to well   Aug 10 2018, 03:48 PM
Mark Henry   You can get almost anything to work :) With lar...   Aug 11 2018, 08:34 AM
ottox914   My 2056 running SDS, big itb’s, a fairly large c...   Aug 11 2018, 10:40 PM
Mark Henry   Big lift isn't a problem, large duration and o...   Aug 12 2018, 06:25 AM
ottox914   Big lift isn't a problem, large duration and ...   Aug 12 2018, 09:35 PM
Mark Henry   Big lift isn't a problem, large duration and...   Aug 13 2018, 07:55 AM
ConeDodger   I saw the Holley system at the Big Boy Toy Store a...   Aug 12 2018, 09:11 AM
ConeDodger   For the record, I have never met Mark Henry. I hav...   Aug 13 2018, 12:31 PM
Mark Henry   Well my edumacaton is a lot higher than you think....   Aug 13 2018, 12:59 PM
Chris914n6   I'm glad SDS has been working for you, but it...   Aug 13 2018, 01:06 PM
Mark Henry   I'm glad SDS has been working for you, but it...   Aug 13 2018, 02:14 PM
Chris914n6   [quote name='Chris914n6' post='2638457' date='Aug...   Aug 13 2018, 04:15 PM
horizontally-opposed   ECUMaster black, MS3pro, and AEM Infinity particu...   Aug 13 2018, 06:24 PM
Mark Henry   [quote name='Chris914n6' post='2638457' date='Aug...   Aug 14 2018, 12:11 PM


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