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post Aug 2 2018, 11:33 AM
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So I am hearing this is a very attractive setup for 4+ cylinder engines, and can be made to work with ITB setups for a flat six, such as PMO's. The 4BBL pricing sure is right, and it's said to be "self tuning" and a dream to work with/on.

Anyone have any experience of this, or know of a Porsche engine running it?
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post Aug 6 2018, 12:11 PM
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Chris Baker (tygaboy) is going to use the Holley HP EFI package on his LS3 running individual throttle bodies so I'd see no reason same system couldn't be used on a flat /4 or flat /6.

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NEW V4 SOFTWARE FEATURES
“Quick Start” ignition and fueling strategy for LS x Engines
Data Logger. Scalable axes, Smoothing, Multiple graph view ability, Pre-defined notes fields and many more
Strip Chart Real-Time Data Viewer
Integrated Boost Control - Boost vs Time, Boost vs Gear (Time or RPM), Boost vs RPM, Boost vs Speed, Launch control. Boost launch builder, Over-boost safeties, Boost scramble
Traction Control - Power reduction via timing, nitrous percentage or boost (Requires Davis Technologies Holley Module)
“Quick Start” fueling for all engines
Option for VE based fueling strategy
Fuel Map and Learn Function Smoothing


The ECU alone is $1100 which isn't too bad. Personally if I was to do the aftermarket EFI again I'd go Haltech (no more DOS based programs (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ) (the more I read about the Holley HP/Avenger and Dominator ecus the more I like them).

I know Hot Rod and the other V8 biased magazines really like the Holley EFI stuff. I know for the many older hot rod guys the main appeal to this new generation of EFI is plug and play. Not everyone wants to spend the time and money for dynos to get the EFI to play nice with the motor.

"Self tuning" is like the holy grail for some people. I think there would be more aftermarket EFI installs on 914s if someone knew for a fact that in one weekend they could remove their carbs or D-jet/L-jet and install MS or Haltech or the Holley and know that once they turn the key their motor will run as good or better than before without having to turn on the laptop and figure out which button to press or 3D map to play with.


The Dominator ECU can support dual drive by wire TB's, that would be neat with a /4 or /6 , no linkage would really clean up the install and avoid some issues people have with them.
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QUOTE(Mueller @ Aug 6 2018, 03:11 PM) *

Chris Baker (tygaboy) is going to use the Holley HP EFI package on his LS3 running individual throttle bodies so I'd see no reason same system couldn't be used on a flat /4 or flat /6.

They claim:

QUOTE
NEW V4 SOFTWARE FEATURES
“Quick Start” ignition and fueling strategy for LS x Engines
Data Logger. Scalable axes, Smoothing, Multiple graph view ability, Pre-defined notes fields and many more
Strip Chart Real-Time Data Viewer
Integrated Boost Control - Boost vs Time, Boost vs Gear (Time or RPM), Boost vs RPM, Boost vs Speed, Launch control. Boost launch builder, Over-boost safeties, Boost scramble
Traction Control - Power reduction via timing, nitrous percentage or boost (Requires Davis Technologies Holley Module)
“Quick Start” fueling for all engines
Option for VE based fueling strategy
Fuel Map and Learn Function Smoothing


The ECU alone is $1100 which isn't too bad. Personally if I was to do the aftermarket EFI again I'd go Haltech (no more DOS based programs (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ) (the more I read about the Holley HP/Avenger and Dominator ecus the more I like them).

I know Hot Rod and the other V8 biased magazines really like the Holley EFI stuff. I know for the many older hot rod guys the main appeal to this new generation of EFI is plug and play. Not everyone wants to spend the time and money for dynos to get the EFI to play nice with the motor.

"Self tuning" is like the holy grail for some people. I think there would be more aftermarket EFI installs on 914s if someone knew for a fact that in one weekend they could remove their carbs or D-jet/L-jet and install MS or Haltech or the Holley and know that once they turn the key their motor will run as good or better than before without having to turn on the laptop and figure out which button to press or 3D map to play with.


The Dominator ECU can support dual drive by wire TB's, that would be neat with a /4 or /6 , no linkage would really clean up the install and avoid some issues people have with them.


I worry about “Hot Rod and other V8 biased” magazines actually carrying bias into the editorial side of the house. Do they really like it? Or, do they really like the resulting ad dollars when the editorially ‘like’ it.
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horizontally-opposed   Holley EFI   Aug 2 2018, 11:33 AM
Vacca Rabite   I know of a corvair 6 (in a bus) that was running ...   Aug 2 2018, 11:52 AM
Andyrew   I would much prefer MS3 Pro EVO. Im considering th...   Aug 2 2018, 01:29 PM
Chris914n6   I've been eyeballing one of these for Dads old...   Aug 2 2018, 08:07 PM
burton73   I've been eyeballing one of these for Dads ol...   Aug 2 2018, 08:15 PM
jd74914   For the 914n6 I've got my eye on [url=https:/...   Aug 3 2018, 08:33 AM
Andyrew   Companies like Haltech are still around and make...   Aug 3 2018, 09:56 AM
Andyrew   That Goefi is an awesome looking piece of hardware...   Aug 2 2018, 09:18 PM
horizontally-opposed   When I think about EFI, I like the idea of the ...   Aug 2 2018, 11:09 PM
ConeDodger   When I think about EFI, I like the idea of the ...   Aug 3 2018, 06:40 PM
Mark Henry   When I think about EFI, I like the idea of the ...   Aug 3 2018, 09:58 PM
Mark Henry   [quote name='horizontally-opposed' post='263...   Aug 8 2018, 09:22 AM
ConeDodger   [quote name='horizontally-opposed' post='26...   Aug 8 2018, 10:57 AM
Mark Henry   So this is for a /6? What is the cars use and your...   Aug 3 2018, 10:51 AM
914pipe   I'm going to experiment with Speeduino, that w...   Aug 3 2018, 07:59 PM
Mark Henry   I'm going to experiment with Speeduino, that ...   Aug 3 2018, 10:06 PM
914forme   I'm going to experiment with Speeduino, that...   Aug 4 2018, 11:34 AM
ConeDodger   [quote name='Mark Henry' post='2635263' date='Aug...   Aug 4 2018, 12:56 PM
914forme   No one is criticizing the SDS support. It’s the...   Aug 4 2018, 07:07 PM
Matty900   I am running a microsquirt (MS2) system with ITBs ...   Aug 3 2018, 10:15 PM
914four   Anyone using this Magasquirt package from the Dub ...   Aug 4 2018, 07:13 AM
horizontally-opposed   A number of good options. I would probably choose ...   Aug 4 2018, 02:18 PM
914pipe   A number of good options. I would probably choose...   Aug 4 2018, 11:10 PM
Andyrew   Ya but the Holley efi was essentially designed for...   Aug 5 2018, 12:30 AM
horizontally-opposed   Apparently, Holley recently released a system set ...   Aug 5 2018, 10:10 AM
Vacca Rabite   Meanwhile, threads like these are what has kept ...   Aug 7 2018, 12:51 PM
Travis Neff   Holley seems to have a few efi systems, which one ...   Aug 5 2018, 08:37 PM
horizontally-opposed   Holley seems to have a few efi systems, which one...   Aug 6 2018, 10:58 AM
Mueller   Chris Baker (tygaboy) is going to use the Holley H...   Aug 6 2018, 12:11 PM
ConeDodger   Chris Baker (tygaboy) is going to use the Holley ...   Aug 7 2018, 01:39 PM
Mueller   I worry about “Hot Rod and other V8 biased...   Aug 7 2018, 01:46 PM
jd74914   I worry about “Hot Rod and other V8 biased” m...   Aug 7 2018, 02:17 PM
horizontally-opposed   ^ It's a fair worry with some of those books. ...   Aug 7 2018, 03:43 PM
Chris914n6   The innovative stuff isn't going to come from ...   Aug 7 2018, 03:55 PM
burton73   For a GM V8 It looks like all the parts for the S...   Aug 7 2018, 04:13 PM
Mark Henry   Again I wasn't really hauling it as it's h...   Aug 8 2018, 10:22 AM
horizontally-opposed   Suspect we are turning a corner from aftermarket E...   Aug 8 2018, 11:01 AM
Mark Henry   Suspect we are turning a corner from aftermarket ...   Aug 8 2018, 12:21 PM
Mark Henry   What is your project? stock engine? rebuilt? good...   Aug 8 2018, 02:49 PM
Mueller   I saw this motor on Hemmings today, I bet one coul...   Aug 10 2018, 03:15 PM
mb911   I saw this motor on Hemmings today, I bet one cou...   Aug 11 2018, 06:56 AM
horizontally-opposed   I saw this motor on Hemmings today, I bet one cou...   Aug 11 2018, 08:04 AM
73-914   bet it doesn't run to well   Aug 10 2018, 03:48 PM
Mark Henry   You can get almost anything to work :) With lar...   Aug 11 2018, 08:34 AM
ottox914   My 2056 running SDS, big itb’s, a fairly large c...   Aug 11 2018, 10:40 PM
Mark Henry   Big lift isn't a problem, large duration and o...   Aug 12 2018, 06:25 AM
ottox914   Big lift isn't a problem, large duration and ...   Aug 12 2018, 09:35 PM
Mark Henry   Big lift isn't a problem, large duration and...   Aug 13 2018, 07:55 AM
ConeDodger   I saw the Holley system at the Big Boy Toy Store a...   Aug 12 2018, 09:11 AM
ConeDodger   For the record, I have never met Mark Henry. I hav...   Aug 13 2018, 12:31 PM
Mark Henry   Well my edumacaton is a lot higher than you think....   Aug 13 2018, 12:59 PM
Chris914n6   I'm glad SDS has been working for you, but it...   Aug 13 2018, 01:06 PM
Mark Henry   I'm glad SDS has been working for you, but it...   Aug 13 2018, 02:14 PM
Chris914n6   [quote name='Chris914n6' post='2638457' date='Aug...   Aug 13 2018, 04:15 PM
horizontally-opposed   ECUMaster black, MS3pro, and AEM Infinity particu...   Aug 13 2018, 06:24 PM
Mark Henry   [quote name='Chris914n6' post='2638457' date='Aug...   Aug 14 2018, 12:11 PM


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