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> Holley EFI, Not just for American 4BBL carb replacements anymore...
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post Aug 2 2018, 11:33 AM
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So I am hearing this is a very attractive setup for 4+ cylinder engines, and can be made to work with ITB setups for a flat six, such as PMO's. The 4BBL pricing sure is right, and it's said to be "self tuning" and a dream to work with/on.

Anyone have any experience of this, or know of a Porsche engine running it?
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post Aug 13 2018, 01:06 PM
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I'm glad SDS has been working for you, but it's dated and overpriced compared to everything that's come out the past couple years. ECUMaster black, MS3pro, and AEM Infinity particularly. ECUMaster black has built in wideband O2, CAN, and autotune for $1099.
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post Aug 13 2018, 02:14 PM
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QUOTE(Chris914n6 @ Aug 13 2018, 03:06 PM) *

I'm glad SDS has been working for you, but it's dated and overpriced compared to everything that's come out the past couple years. ECUMaster black, MS3pro, and AEM Infinity particularly. ECUMaster black has built in wideband O2, CAN, and autotune for $1099.


SDS has had built in wideband reading for severial years...you need a sensor and controller, gauge is optional.

I've never said SDS is the best, what it is the best at is for the backyard wrench with little to no EFI experience, limited programming skills, who just wants a system that works, easy to install, easy to tune, can be tuned without dyno time and doesn't need options like auto-fallatio.

I have a customer/friend who has a 930, he was running SDS which took him no time to install and tune, no dyno except for HP pulls.
This year hes been installing MS3 and meth injection, he's nine months in and 20+ hours dyno tune time, better idle, better mileage, but so far the SDS had better grunt. 435hp so far, he was over 500hp same dyno with SDS and without meth.
9 months and he's still working on finding the missing HP, more dyno time scheduled.
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QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Aug 13 2018, 01:14 PM) *

QUOTE(Chris914n6 @ Aug 13 2018, 03:06 PM) *

I'm glad SDS has been working for you, but it's dated and overpriced compared to everything that's come out the past couple years. ECUMaster black, MS3pro, and AEM Infinity particularly. ECUMaster black has built in wideband O2 CONTROLLER, CAN, and autotune for $1099.


SDS has had built in wideband reading for severial years...you need a sensor and controller, gauge is optional.

I've never said SDS is the best, what it is the best at is for the backyard wrench with little to no EFI experience, limited programming skills, who just wants a system that works, easy to install, easy to tune, can be tuned without dyno time and doesn't need options like auto-fallatio.

I have a customer/friend who has a 930, he was running SDS which took him no time to install and tune, no dyno except for HP pulls.
This year hes been installing MS3 and meth injection, he's nine months in and 20+ hours dyno tune time, better idle, better mileage, but so far the SDS had better grunt. 435hp so far, he was over 500hp same dyno with SDS and without meth.
9 months and he's still working on finding the missing HP, more dyno time scheduled.
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Obviously his problem is from doing meth (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)

The 3 I mentioned are being used on 1000hp Supras.....

I disagree that SDS is the simplest anymore and at $1800 comparable isn't a good deal. ProEFI does way more at that price point.
Autotune is plug in a few parameters, drive for 5 and done. What's simpler than that?
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horizontally-opposed   Holley EFI   Aug 2 2018, 11:33 AM
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Mark Henry   [quote name='horizontally-opposed' post='263...   Aug 8 2018, 09:22 AM
ConeDodger   [quote name='horizontally-opposed' post='26...   Aug 8 2018, 10:57 AM
Mark Henry   So this is for a /6? What is the cars use and your...   Aug 3 2018, 10:51 AM
914pipe   I'm going to experiment with Speeduino, that w...   Aug 3 2018, 07:59 PM
Mark Henry   I'm going to experiment with Speeduino, that ...   Aug 3 2018, 10:06 PM
914forme   I'm going to experiment with Speeduino, that...   Aug 4 2018, 11:34 AM
ConeDodger   [quote name='Mark Henry' post='2635263' date='Aug...   Aug 4 2018, 12:56 PM
914forme   No one is criticizing the SDS support. It’s the...   Aug 4 2018, 07:07 PM
Matty900   I am running a microsquirt (MS2) system with ITBs ...   Aug 3 2018, 10:15 PM
914four   Anyone using this Magasquirt package from the Dub ...   Aug 4 2018, 07:13 AM
horizontally-opposed   A number of good options. I would probably choose ...   Aug 4 2018, 02:18 PM
914pipe   A number of good options. I would probably choose...   Aug 4 2018, 11:10 PM
Andyrew   Ya but the Holley efi was essentially designed for...   Aug 5 2018, 12:30 AM
horizontally-opposed   Apparently, Holley recently released a system set ...   Aug 5 2018, 10:10 AM
Vacca Rabite   Meanwhile, threads like these are what has kept ...   Aug 7 2018, 12:51 PM
Travis Neff   Holley seems to have a few efi systems, which one ...   Aug 5 2018, 08:37 PM
horizontally-opposed   Holley seems to have a few efi systems, which one...   Aug 6 2018, 10:58 AM
Mueller   Chris Baker (tygaboy) is going to use the Holley H...   Aug 6 2018, 12:11 PM
ConeDodger   Chris Baker (tygaboy) is going to use the Holley ...   Aug 7 2018, 01:39 PM
Mueller   I worry about “Hot Rod and other V8 biased...   Aug 7 2018, 01:46 PM
jd74914   I worry about “Hot Rod and other V8 biased” m...   Aug 7 2018, 02:17 PM
horizontally-opposed   ^ It's a fair worry with some of those books. ...   Aug 7 2018, 03:43 PM
Chris914n6   The innovative stuff isn't going to come from ...   Aug 7 2018, 03:55 PM
burton73   For a GM V8 It looks like all the parts for the S...   Aug 7 2018, 04:13 PM
Mark Henry   Again I wasn't really hauling it as it's h...   Aug 8 2018, 10:22 AM
horizontally-opposed   Suspect we are turning a corner from aftermarket E...   Aug 8 2018, 11:01 AM
Mark Henry   Suspect we are turning a corner from aftermarket ...   Aug 8 2018, 12:21 PM
Mark Henry   What is your project? stock engine? rebuilt? good...   Aug 8 2018, 02:49 PM
Mueller   I saw this motor on Hemmings today, I bet one coul...   Aug 10 2018, 03:15 PM
mb911   I saw this motor on Hemmings today, I bet one cou...   Aug 11 2018, 06:56 AM
horizontally-opposed   I saw this motor on Hemmings today, I bet one cou...   Aug 11 2018, 08:04 AM
73-914   bet it doesn't run to well   Aug 10 2018, 03:48 PM
Mark Henry   You can get almost anything to work :) With lar...   Aug 11 2018, 08:34 AM
ottox914   My 2056 running SDS, big itb’s, a fairly large c...   Aug 11 2018, 10:40 PM
Mark Henry   Big lift isn't a problem, large duration and o...   Aug 12 2018, 06:25 AM
ottox914   Big lift isn't a problem, large duration and ...   Aug 12 2018, 09:35 PM
Mark Henry   Big lift isn't a problem, large duration and...   Aug 13 2018, 07:55 AM
ConeDodger   I saw the Holley system at the Big Boy Toy Store a...   Aug 12 2018, 09:11 AM
ConeDodger   For the record, I have never met Mark Henry. I hav...   Aug 13 2018, 12:31 PM
Mark Henry   Well my edumacaton is a lot higher than you think....   Aug 13 2018, 12:59 PM
Chris914n6   I'm glad SDS has been working for you, but it...   Aug 13 2018, 01:06 PM
Mark Henry   I'm glad SDS has been working for you, but it...   Aug 13 2018, 02:14 PM
Chris914n6   [quote name='Chris914n6' post='2638457' date='Aug...   Aug 13 2018, 04:15 PM
horizontally-opposed   ECUMaster black, MS3pro, and AEM Infinity particu...   Aug 13 2018, 06:24 PM
Mark Henry   [quote name='Chris914n6' post='2638457' date='Aug...   Aug 14 2018, 12:11 PM


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