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HerdofCrickets
post Sep 3 2018, 07:51 PM
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So perhaps I'm slightly not overly excited about smashing my hands up there to do the adjustment (ie lazy) but.... I'm about to try my first valve adjustment, is there a reason we don't drop the exhaust out of the way? Seems it'd be MUCH easier without that blocking all the workspace!
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post Sep 4 2018, 10:49 AM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) but I hope we're wrong.
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post Sep 4 2018, 12:02 PM
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QUOTE(cuddy_k @ Sep 4 2018, 11:49 AM) *

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) but I hope we're wrong.


Well me too, I can't find a darn thing online about how to fix that so... that makes me nervous! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif)
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post Sep 4 2018, 01:01 PM
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QUOTE(HerdofCrickets @ Sep 4 2018, 12:02 PM) *

QUOTE(cuddy_k @ Sep 4 2018, 11:49 AM) *

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) but I hope we're wrong.


Well me too, I can't find a darn thing online about how to fix that so... that makes me nervous! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif)



Hopefully you are not dropping a valve seat
most likely there would be a significant compression loss in that cylinder that you would be able to detect through a leak down test.

but fixing a valve seat would require dropping the motor, pulling the head and having a specialist that is familiar with aluminum heads on air cooled cars make you and install another valve seat.

this would need to be done before the entire seat dropped into the combustion chamber and blew up the rest of the motor (possible, bend rod, hole in block, holed piston, contaminated oil passages, etc)

most people that actually have a dropping valve seat would consider pulling the head from the other bank and consider having those seats checked at the same time

whom ever last touched the head, could possibly not have the experience required to rebuild the head and seats correctly.... causing one to come loose and putting the other 7 seats at risk for a similar fate.

if they were rebuilt by a known and skilled specialist... you would be more likely to be safe that only one seat is loose and the other 7 are not at risk.

many people will go ahead and fully rebuild the motor at this point... especially if its a tired motor. Sitting for a decade is not good on a motor. but possibly further inspection will show your rings, valve springs and other items are fine and not in need of replacement or rebuild.... and possibly you will need to replace some of those items after 10 years.

an expert with experience, or a a lot of research and careful measuring can help make that decision.





Adjust your valves
then if the noise still exists... don't drive it without digging deeper
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post Sep 4 2018, 01:33 PM
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Adjust your valves
then if the noise still exists... don't drive it without digging deeper


I'm pretty sure that when he goes to adjust the valves he'll find "one of these in not like the other"!

If you have to pull one head you might as well pull the other and get it inspected at the same time. Once the engine is out all the other "while you are in there" spending starts (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)
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HerdofCrickets   Valve Adjustment Question   Sep 3 2018, 07:51 PM
worn   So perhaps I'm slightly not overly excited ab...   Sep 3 2018, 08:14 PM
Dave_Darling   Just to note that there is a difference between ...   Sep 3 2018, 08:50 PM
HerdofCrickets   Just to note that there is a difference between ...   Sep 3 2018, 09:44 PM
cary   I think we should call it valve clearance inspecti...   Sep 3 2018, 09:46 PM
TheCabinetmaker   Removing the exhaust to adjust valves is kinda lik...   Sep 4 2018, 06:07 AM
falcor75   I'd rather pull the motor and gearbox than pul...   Sep 4 2018, 06:11 AM
HerdofCrickets   Good deal. I was looking for an easy way out but ...   Sep 4 2018, 08:01 AM
cuddy_k   If there's anything else you're thinking a...   Sep 4 2018, 08:29 AM
HerdofCrickets   If there's anything else you're thinking ...   Sep 4 2018, 08:54 AM
Bartlett 914   If there's anything else you're thinking...   Sep 4 2018, 09:37 AM
HerdofCrickets   valves make tapping sounds. if there is a knocki...   Sep 4 2018, 09:46 AM
TheCabinetmaker   Not a valve adjustment problem. Dropped valve seat...   Sep 4 2018, 09:55 AM
billh1963   Not a valve adjustment problem. Dropped valve sea...   Sep 4 2018, 10:26 AM
cuddy_k   :agree: but I hope we're wrong.   Sep 4 2018, 10:49 AM
HerdofCrickets   :agree: but I hope we're wrong. Well me to...   Sep 4 2018, 12:02 PM
brant   :agree: but I hope we're wrong. Well me t...   Sep 4 2018, 01:01 PM
billh1963   Adjust your valves then if the noise still exist...   Sep 4 2018, 01:33 PM
Dave_Darling   Hopefully you are not dropping a valve seat most ...   Sep 4 2018, 04:36 PM
HerdofCrickets   Finally got the stupid cover off. My feeler gauge...   Sep 4 2018, 08:09 PM
TheCabinetmaker   How about the other side?   Sep 4 2018, 11:26 PM
Porschef   :agree: Yes, there are 4 more on the other side....   Sep 5 2018, 04:03 AM
HerdofCrickets   :agree: Yes, there are 4 more on the other side...   Sep 5 2018, 07:22 AM
brant   did You find each cylinder’s tdc? Sorry dumb qu...   Sep 5 2018, 07:17 AM
falcor75   Yup, Passenger side is for cylinder 3 and 4, drive...   Sep 5 2018, 07:36 AM
bdstone914   Couple of tips. To unclip the bale runs a shop to...   Sep 5 2018, 08:02 AM
HerdofCrickets   Couple of tips. To unclip the bale runs a shop t...   Sep 5 2018, 08:10 AM
TheCabinetmaker   And that is why I won't remove heat exchangers...   Sep 5 2018, 08:10 AM
cary   Here's some good reading. https://www.pelicanp...   Sep 5 2018, 08:28 AM
brant   You have to put them at TDC to see whether you hav...   Sep 5 2018, 09:09 AM
HerdofCrickets   Drivers side.... I struggled for about 30 minutes ...   Sep 5 2018, 08:36 PM
TheCabinetmaker   Time for your first engine drop.   Sep 5 2018, 09:18 PM
HerdofCrickets   Seems like it! Getting the engine out doesn...   Sep 6 2018, 07:18 AM
DRPHIL914   Seems like it! Getting the engine out doesn...   Sep 6 2018, 07:29 AM
HerdofCrickets   [quote name='HerdofCrickets' post='2646011' date=...   Sep 6 2018, 08:15 AM
TheCabinetmaker   I diagnose Dirk Wright's desease! Prognosi...   Sep 6 2018, 10:05 AM
cuddy_k   Glad you found the video helpful. As long as you...   Sep 6 2018, 10:13 AM
VaccaRabite   If you are waffling on Chris's engine cradle, ...   Sep 6 2018, 11:53 AM
HerdofCrickets   Not waffling at all, it's on my shortlist of t...   Sep 6 2018, 12:04 PM
RoadGlue   Just a quick note that Chris's cradle doesn...   Sep 6 2018, 12:46 PM
HerdofCrickets   As you can tell, the whole "mechanic" th...   Sep 7 2018, 07:40 AM
TheCabinetmaker   What are you gonna do with a hoist?   Sep 7 2018, 08:47 AM
HerdofCrickets   Once I drop the engine onto the jack & plate, ...   Sep 7 2018, 08:59 AM
brant   Or working with n the floor is perfectly acceptabl...   Sep 7 2018, 09:36 AM
TheCabinetmaker   After you remove the trans, get a couple of friend...   Sep 7 2018, 09:38 AM
cuddy_k   Engine stand: https://www.harborfreight.com/1000-...   Sep 7 2018, 11:25 AM
HerdofCrickets   Engine stand: https://www.harborfreight.com/1000...   Sep 7 2018, 11:55 AM
TheCabinetmaker   So, I nailed it on post#13? Imagine that!   Sep 17 2018, 10:16 AM
HerdofCrickets   So, I nailed it on post#13? Imagine that! S...   Sep 17 2018, 10:26 AM
TheCabinetmaker   Get a Haynes manual or the Tom Wilson engine rebui...   Sep 17 2018, 10:34 AM


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