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> The 996 the new 914, Interesting Article. Never thought I'd see the day
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post Nov 5 2018, 02:07 PM
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Interesting article.

https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/bu...be-collectible/


Never thought I'd see a 914 worth more than a 911....but that day has come.

Although initially I didn't buy my teener for appreciation value.
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Years ago, a Guards Red/black 993 Carrera S 6MT came through Excellence. Had if for a week, and liked it a lot. And there was a lot of like...styling, connection to what we love about earlier air-cooled 911s, useful torque, good sounds, pretty nice shifter (for back then), and then all the stuff that seemed like a quantum leap from my 914—air-conditioning, power windows and locks, power seats, etc.

Not too many months later, a Guards Red/black 996 Carrera 2 6MT came through Excellence, and I spent a few days in that. The air-cooled diehards were busy panning the 996, mainly citing the 993's styling, build quality, materials quality, tradition, etc as superior (and those are hard points to argue), I had to say that the 996 put it on the trailer if the drive was what mattered. Down the same roads, the 993 was very much the compromise that it was...a car continually refined—and VERY well developed—from 1964 to 1998 (the upside) stuck on a wheelbase and chassis that dated to...1964. In terms of the driving, the 996 felt like what they'd make from all those lessons with a clean sheet. The handling was flat superior, with a lighter helm that filtered out the white noise while leaving me with what I needed to carve up a road. The whole car felt lighter, more agile. The 3.4 was elastic, pulled harder, and sounded better (to me) than the workaday, torquey 3.6 in the 993, the shifter was better, and the brakes were better too. More comfortable on the freeway, and offered VASTLY better HVAC. Sure, you could see where they saved the money (um, no glovebox...really?), and the interior quality was spotty at best, but the driving position was better and the 996 was...to me, if I put what I was "supposed to like" aside...more fun to drive than the 993. I still have a soft spot for early 996 C2s—I prefer the 986 headlights to the later ones, and the 3.4 to the 3.6, and the handling of the 1999-2001 C2 to the handling of the 2002-2004 C2.

Don't get me wrong. I love 993s. But I don't get the 996 hate. The only thing that makes me nervous in recommending them is the engine, which is an overblown subject in my view—but if you get stung, it huuuuuurts.
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914_teener   The 996 the new 914   Nov 5 2018, 02:07 PM
76-914   Good article but I think the author's complime...   Nov 5 2018, 02:24 PM
914_teener   Good article but I think the author's complim...   Nov 5 2018, 02:48 PM
JamesM   Good article but I think the author's complim...   Nov 5 2018, 06:14 PM
Mueller   Good article but I think the author's compli...   Nov 5 2018, 06:18 PM
914_teener   Good article but I think the author's compli...   Nov 5 2018, 06:26 PM
Unobtanium-inc   A friend who works for Porsche said around the wat...   Nov 5 2018, 02:31 PM
mepstein   When I first saw the 996, I thought it was a new T...   Nov 5 2018, 02:38 PM
JmuRiz   When I first saw the 996, I thought it was a new ...   Nov 5 2018, 03:09 PM
BuddyV   I must be the only person who actually LIKES the 9...   Nov 5 2018, 03:21 PM
Big Len   The author writes, "These cars were about 15 ...   Nov 5 2018, 03:51 PM
914_teener   The author writes, "These cars were about 15...   Nov 5 2018, 04:02 PM
Unobtanium-inc   The author writes, "These cars were about 15...   Nov 5 2018, 04:53 PM
914_teener   [quote name='Big Len' post='2663415...   Nov 5 2018, 04:05 PM
Mueller   I like the 996, if I had the space (and money) I...   Nov 5 2018, 04:25 PM
Mark Henry   Read some of the authors other articles, he's ...   Nov 5 2018, 05:08 PM
Larmo63   I read the "Vanagon-engined misery-mobile...   Nov 5 2018, 07:14 PM
pete000   The 996 is a disposable car, buy it cheap and when...   Nov 5 2018, 07:31 PM
horizontally-opposed   Years ago, a Guards Red/black 993 Carrera S 6MT ca...   Nov 5 2018, 07:34 PM
JmuRiz   I’ll go on record as one that likes the 996.2 ca...   Nov 5 2018, 08:22 PM
Unobtanium-inc   I’ll go on record as one that likes the 996.2 c...   Nov 5 2018, 08:37 PM
horizontally-opposed   I’ll go on record as one that likes the 996.2 c...   Nov 6 2018, 12:16 AM
EdwardBlume   Sorry, but the 996 3.6 C4 was / is a very nice car...   Nov 6 2018, 06:33 AM
horizontally-opposed   Sorry, but the 996 3.6 C4 was / is a very nice ca...   Nov 6 2018, 09:35 AM
Racer   Collectible does not mean valuable. I can collect ...   Nov 6 2018, 06:47 AM
JOEPROPER   I have an '02 C4S and I love it. I don't ...   Nov 6 2018, 06:51 AM
DRPHIL914   ive been looking for a while, just did a new searc...   Nov 6 2018, 07:20 AM
914_teener   Not in the market any more Phil. Bought a 987. Gl...   Nov 6 2018, 09:25 AM
DRPHIL914   Not in the market any more Phil. Bought a 987. G...   Nov 6 2018, 10:53 AM
IronHillRestorations   Jack Baruth is a pompous attention whore who'l...   Nov 6 2018, 01:40 PM
jmitro   so much hate for the 996 in here...."no soul...   Nov 6 2018, 03:52 PM
billh1963   so much hate for the 996 in here...."no soul...   Nov 6 2018, 07:17 PM
Mark Henry   so much hate for the 996 in here...."no soul...   Nov 17 2018, 07:55 AM
914_teener   I have two in the stall now. I quess I.m not a pa...   Nov 6 2018, 07:44 PM
horizontally-opposed   I have two in the stall now. I quess I.m not a p...   Nov 6 2018, 09:11 PM
SKL1   Maybe the average 996 isn't the greatest, but...   Nov 6 2018, 09:18 PM
Jett   I bought a 2001 996 Turbo last year from a friend ...   Nov 6 2018, 11:06 PM
Racer   I bought a 2001 996 Turbo last year from a friend...   Nov 7 2018, 07:11 AM
914_teener   I bought a 2001 996 Turbo last year from a frien...   Nov 7 2018, 08:17 AM
Jett   I bought a 2001 996 Turbo last year from a frien...   Nov 8 2018, 01:26 AM
JmuRiz   Not an issue on the Turbo or GT3 engines ;)   Nov 7 2018, 08:56 AM
Mueller   Having putting many miles on Sandys 996 twin turbo...   Nov 7 2018, 10:14 AM
Jett   Having putting many miles on Sandys 996 twin turb...   Nov 8 2018, 01:41 AM
thelogo   The 996 is technically faster and an improvement, ...   Nov 17 2018, 02:31 AM


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