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> What are the trickiest parts about rebuilding one of these engines? Thanks
Tdskip
post May 1 2019, 08:43 PM
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Or, in other words, where is a first time engine builder most likely to go wrong?
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post May 2 2019, 06:59 AM
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Incorrect alignment of cam and crank timing marks.

Breaking the eyelet off oil pickup when installing the bolt through the case.

Not checking deck height and confirming compression ratio.

Not lapping the cylinders to the heads.

Not using correct sealant for case.

Improper installation of oil cooler seals = leak

Incorrect setting of the crank end play.

Not surfacing pressure plate mounting surface the same amount as the clutch surface.

Not that I have ever done any of those things. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)
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post May 2 2019, 07:35 AM
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QUOTE(Mblizzard @ May 2 2019, 06:59 AM) *

Not surfacing pressure plate mounting surface the same amount as the clutch surface.


Is grinding the ridges off the flywheel bolts a suitable work around for this? When I had my flywheel resurfaced decades ago, I asked them to surface the mounting hub to match but I don't think they did it. I decided to grind the bolts to be sure I have clearance but haven't run the engine yet. Is that going to bite me in the butt?

Also, it's been a long time, but it seemed like installing the distributor gear was a little tricky.
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QUOTE(bbrock @ May 2 2019, 05:35 AM) *

QUOTE(Mblizzard @ May 2 2019, 06:59 AM) *

Not surfacing pressure plate mounting surface the same amount as the clutch surface.


Is grinding the ridges off the flywheel bolts a suitable work around for this? When I had my flywheel resurfaced decades ago, I asked them to surface the mounting hub to match but I don't think they did it. I decided to grind the bolts to be sure I have clearance but haven't run the engine yet. Is that going to bite me in the butt?

Also, it's been a long time, but it seemed like installing the distributor gear was a little tricky.



I have seen that done but I think that is due to the removal of too much material from the surface and the bolts extend above the flywheel surface.

If you fail to machine both surfaces clutch slippage will be a problem. If so much material was removed that you had to grind the bolts you might want to look at it again. I grade on a good bad scale. Anytime you have to modify bolts to fit stock parts it is likely bad!
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QUOTE(Mblizzard @ May 2 2019, 08:00 AM) *

QUOTE(bbrock @ May 2 2019, 05:35 AM) *

QUOTE(Mblizzard @ May 2 2019, 06:59 AM) *

Not surfacing pressure plate mounting surface the same amount as the clutch surface.


Is grinding the ridges off the flywheel bolts a suitable work around for this? When I had my flywheel resurfaced decades ago, I asked them to surface the mounting hub to match but I don't think they did it. I decided to grind the bolts to be sure I have clearance but haven't run the engine yet. Is that going to bite me in the butt?

Also, it's been a long time, but it seemed like installing the distributor gear was a little tricky.



I have seen that done but I think that is due to the removal of too much material from the surface and the bolts extend above the flywheel surface.

If you fail to machine both surfaces clutch slippage will be a problem. If so much material was removed that you had to grind the bolts you might want to look at it again. I grade on a good bad scale. Anytime you have to modify bolts to fit stock parts it is likely bad!


Whoops! Looks like a misread what you were saying. Yes, when my flywheel was surfaced, they took .027 off the friction surface and a matching amount off the outer ring where the pressure plate mounts. I mistakenly thought you were talking about the center hub where the flywheel bolts to the crank. That's what may not have been surfaced so I ground the ridges on the bolts just to make sure they don't hit the friction disc.

Disregard my question. Carry on. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Tdskip   What are the trickiest parts about rebuilding one of these engines? Thanks   May 1 2019, 08:43 PM
Mark Henry   Main bearing pinched on a dowel pin. Trying to che...   May 1 2019, 08:49 PM
Superhawk996   Thinking you know more about cooling tin, flaps,...   May 2 2019, 05:50 AM
Tdskip   That’s a good starting list-thanks   May 1 2019, 09:17 PM
Mblizzard   Incorrect alignment of cam and crank timing marks....   May 2 2019, 06:59 AM
bbrock   Not surfacing pressure plate mounting surface the...   May 2 2019, 07:35 AM
Mblizzard   Not surfacing pressure plate mounting surface th...   May 2 2019, 08:00 AM
bbrock   [quote name='bbrock' post='2710466' date='May 2 2...   May 2 2019, 08:21 AM
jcd914   I mistakenly thought you were talking about the ...   May 2 2019, 10:12 AM
Mblizzard   I mistakenly thought you were talking about the...   May 2 2019, 11:28 AM
bbrock   [quote name='bbrock' post='2710483' date='May 2 2...   May 2 2019, 11:38 AM
Tdskip   I won’t ask how you know Mike. Grin.   May 2 2019, 07:24 AM
Tdskip   I am assuming the do/don't on this is all writ...   May 2 2019, 08:19 AM
Tdskip   So really only an issue if the fly wheel has been ...   May 2 2019, 10:17 AM
rhodyguy   The run out on the fly wheel must be taken in to a...   May 2 2019, 10:26 AM
VaccaRabite   Echoing what Mark said. The dowel pin munching a m...   May 2 2019, 10:46 AM
worn   Or, in other words, where is a first time engine ...   May 2 2019, 11:22 AM
Superhawk996   is it just me misreading? I don't think dimen...   May 2 2019, 11:59 AM
rhodyguy   I was under the impression that 'C' is the...   May 2 2019, 12:01 PM
bbrock   I was under the impression that 'C' is th...   May 2 2019, 01:45 PM
sixnotfour   I was under the impression that 'C' is th...   May 3 2019, 09:32 AM
Superhawk996   @bbrock To Brent's point, as long as the 11m...   May 2 2019, 12:03 PM
sjhenry1075   I echo Mark's post about cooling tin; it's...   May 2 2019, 12:21 PM
mepstein   I echo Mark's post about cooling tin; it...   May 2 2019, 12:31 PM
Tbrown4x4   I'm also confused by that diagram. Always thou...   May 2 2019, 06:33 PM
bbrock   I'm also confused by that diagram. Always tho...   May 2 2019, 07:31 PM
Mark Henry   IIRC That diagram is for a 914/6 flywheel and isn...   May 2 2019, 07:18 PM
Superhawk996   IIRC That diagram is for a 914/6 flywheel and isn...   May 3 2019, 05:22 AM
Tbrown4x4   I agree. ^^^^ My machinist was all hung up on the...   May 3 2019, 04:55 AM
Tdskip   Great stuff. Short of splitting the case is there...   May 3 2019, 10:01 AM
Tdskip   Good morning. Came across this while doing more r...   May 9 2019, 07:33 AM
mepstein   Good morning. Came across this while doing more ...   May 9 2019, 10:36 AM
Bleyseng   Yes! Most cams are pretty worn after 75,000 mi...   May 9 2019, 08:23 AM
rhodyguy   You will have to tap the case for the threaded plu...   May 9 2019, 09:42 AM
Tdskip   Oh fine - steer me towards doing it right. Some he...   May 9 2019, 10:45 AM
sixnotfour   Oh fine - steer me towards doing it right. Some h...   May 9 2019, 12:21 PM
cuddy_k   Oh fine - steer me towards doing it right. Some h...   May 9 2019, 01:57 PM
Tdskip   Oh fine - steer me towards doing it right. Some ...   May 9 2019, 02:02 PM
Montreal914   I have really enjoyed Van Svenson's website fo...   May 9 2019, 01:53 PM


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