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Ansbacher
post Jun 13 2019, 04:30 PM
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Wow, with all the D-Jet issues being posted lately and owners pulling their hair out trying to identify the problems to repair, I am very thankful to have two simple and reliable Dellorto carbs on my car. Yes, I would love the smoother experience of F.I. but wondering if it is really worth the aggravation.

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post Jun 14 2019, 05:29 AM
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I'm totally green/dumb about the D-jet/carb matter, but did purchase a full, working D-jet system off another '76 for a future install if I get the carbs tweaked correctly and know the rest of the engine is solid.

But I can tell you all this: I had a long talk with Eric at PMB Performance when ordering my rear brake calipers and we got into talking about my eventually installing the D-jet system. Most here know that PMB are one of the best at restoring 914's and they know the D-jet system intimately.

He said up until recently, their advice was indeed to get a 914 back to the original fuel injection. But no more. Their position has changed. They said it's getting impossible to find good working parts.

For what it's worth.

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post Jun 14 2019, 06:27 AM
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QUOTE(Gatornapper @ Jun 14 2019, 07:29 AM) *

I'm totally green/dumb about the D-jet/carb matter, but did purchase a full, working D-jet system off another '76 for a future install if I get the carbs tweaked correctly and know the rest of the engine is solid.

But I can tell you all this: I had a long talk with Eric at PMB Performance when ordering my rear brake calipers and we got into talking about my eventually installing the D-jet system. Most here know that PMB are one of the best at restoring 914's and they know the D-jet system intimately.

He said up until recently, their advice was indeed to get a 914 back to the original fuel injection. But no more. Their position has changed. They said it's getting impossible to find good working parts.

For what it's worth.

GN

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) getting good parts is becoming more difficult but... a properly running stock FI is a beautiful thing. Starts on the first try, runs smooth and quiet and gets great gas mileage. I can understand it becomes cost prohibitive for a shop to spend the time and money tracking down old parts when there is a budget involved and no guarantee that the 50 year old parts will work or keep working but for us hobby enthusiasts, it can be worth the time and trouble. Especially with a crew of experts just a World site away.
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Mep -

I'm a long way off from this, but as I am experienced with old FI systems (I'm an electrical engineer, and actually find the old ones simple, cut my teeth on '70's Volvo's), if my engine turns out strong (Porsche dealer who installed carbs said one cylinder has low compression), I just may give the D-jet a try, first pre-testing each component as much as possible.

I'd also want a complete new harness as that would surely eliminate a large percentage of potential problems. And you can get new/replacement injectors, correct?

What does a new harness cost, and where can they be found?

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QUOTE(Gatornapper @ Jun 14 2019, 07:29 AM) *

I'm totally green/dumb about the D-jet/carb matter, but did purchase a full, working D-jet system off another '76 for a future install if I get the carbs tweaked correctly and know the rest of the engine is solid.

But I can tell you all this: I had a long talk with Eric at PMB Performance when ordering my rear brake calipers and we got into talking about my eventually installing the D-jet system. Most here know that PMB are one of the best at restoring 914's and they know the D-jet system intimately.

He said up until recently, their advice was indeed to get a 914 back to the original fuel injection. But no more. Their position has changed. They said it's getting impossible to find good working parts.

For what it's worth.

GN

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) getting good parts is becoming more difficult but... a properly running stock FI is a beautiful thing. Starts on the first try, runs smooth and quiet and gets great gas mileage. I can understand it becomes cost prohibitive for a shop to spend the time and money tracking down old parts when there is a budget involved and no guarantee that the 50 year old parts will work or keep working but for us hobby enthusiasts, it can be worth the time and trouble. Especially with a crew of experts just a World site away.

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Ansbacher   TGIHC   Jun 13 2019, 04:30 PM
JmuRiz   I think it’s time for someone to figure out a 91...   Jun 13 2019, 04:40 PM
80’s old school   I think it’s time for someone to figure out a 9...   Jun 13 2019, 09:03 PM
falcor75   I think it’s time for someone to figure out a 9...   Jun 14 2019, 05:09 AM
SirAndy   Apples and Oranges Those D-Jet parts are 40+ year...   Jun 13 2019, 05:26 PM
BeatNavy   Those D-Jet parts are 40+ years old. A lot of tho...   Jun 13 2019, 05:35 PM
Olympic 914   Those D-Jet parts are 40+ years old. A lot of th...   Jun 14 2019, 07:19 AM
Amphicar770   Kind of like saying you are glad to have bias ply ...   Jun 13 2019, 06:32 PM
914_teener   Kind of like saying you are glad to have bias ply...   Jun 13 2019, 07:22 PM
Ansbacher   No shortage of non-ethanol gas here in Florida. M...   Jun 13 2019, 08:11 PM
SirAndy   Why am i not surprised you are in Florida? No elev...   Jun 13 2019, 08:18 PM
MarkV   D-jet was probably one of the first mainstream ...   Jun 14 2019, 12:39 AM
Beeliner   D-jet was probably one of the first mainstream ...   Jun 14 2019, 04:56 AM
IronHillRestorations   [quote name='MarkV' post='2722474...   Jun 14 2019, 08:25 AM
Gatornapper   I'm totally green/dumb about the D-jet/carb ma...   Jun 14 2019, 05:29 AM
mepstein   I'm totally green/dumb about the D-jet/carb m...   Jun 14 2019, 06:27 AM
Gatornapper   Mep - I'm a long way off from this, but as I ...   Jun 14 2019, 06:36 AM
Mark Henry   I'd also want a complete new harness as that...   Jun 14 2019, 07:24 AM
rick 918-S   Mep - I'm a long way off from this, but as I...   Jun 15 2019, 07:23 AM
Spoke   My 2056 came with dual carbs and runs well. The si...   Jun 14 2019, 07:49 AM
flipb   Minor :hijacked: When I rebuilt my motor (2056)...   Jun 14 2019, 08:14 AM
andys   What experiences were reported of those who conver...   Jun 14 2019, 08:45 AM
Jamie   What experiences were reported of those who conve...   Jun 14 2019, 09:13 AM
rjames   [quote name='andys' post='2722583' date='Jun 14 2...   Jun 14 2019, 09:32 AM
Jamie   [quote name='andys' post='2722583' date='Jun 14 ...   Jun 14 2019, 09:39 AM
mepstein   914rubber is making new engine harnesses with new,...   Jun 14 2019, 08:54 AM
sixnotfour   http://lowbugget.com/2b.html not top performnce, b...   Jun 14 2019, 09:36 AM
Amphicar770   I think a lot of the "problems" people r...   Jun 14 2019, 10:17 AM
bbrock   I am loving this thread! I'm in a similar...   Jun 14 2019, 10:25 AM
MarkV   When I bought mine it came with Dellortos. My firs...   Jun 14 2019, 11:38 AM
ClayPerrine   I have just the opposite opinion from Ansbacher. ...   Jun 15 2019, 06:35 AM
Bleyseng   When I got my 914 in 1995 it had 40 mm Dellortos w...   Jun 15 2019, 07:08 AM
jdamiano   I have my complete stock 40+ year old FI system an...   Jun 15 2019, 08:01 AM
MarkV   So there are two kinds of people in the 914 World....   Jun 15 2019, 11:09 AM
falcor75   Regardless if you have carbs or FI you need to lea...   Jun 15 2019, 11:41 AM


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