turn signals stopped working, just the indicators Options

[malcolm2]

This happened to me before. I wish I could remember what I (or we) did to fix it. I did a search for my posts and it did not jump out at me. So if anyone remembers, or has recently repaired this, speak up....

OK here is the deal. I activate the turn signal lever and sometimes the dash indicator will blink twice. Most times not.

I don't hear a CLICK when they do work.

The Hazards do the same thing.

The fuse is fine.

The parking feature works fine on either side. Does everyone know that when the key is off and out, if you activate the signal lever, the lights come on on that side?

Let know...

[malcolm2]

One additional problem that I did not see yesterday, but once I noticed it this morning, the previous problem started to come back to mind.

the parking brake..... it is not blinking or lighting either.

You can see that it is in the circuit above too.

I believe I pulled the flasher relay last time and cleaned the spades. Once I re-installed it, everything worked. So it was a connection problem. Now I believe it is more. I will pull that relay today.

Thanks, more to come.

[Spoke]

One additional problem that I did not see yesterday, but once I noticed it this morning, the previous problem started to come back to mind.

the parking brake..... it is not blinking or lighting either.

The 914 OEM flasher was designed to flash even with minuscule load current like the parking brake light. The Wehrle flasher may not flash with such a light load.

The EP26 flasher is LED-compatible and flashes at a very low current, like 4ma. Although the EP26 doesn't have the 2nd relay and if the ebrake is pulled, the tach turnsignal indicator will flash. This is true only for the later single turnsignal indicator configuration ('74-'76 cars).

[malcolm2]

One additional problem that I did not see yesterday, but once I noticed it this morning, the previous problem started to come back to mind.

the parking brake..... it is not blinking or lighting either.

The 914 OEM flasher was designed to flash even with minuscule load current like the parking brake light. The Wehrle flasher may not flash with such a light load.

OK, you are correct. The new relay is installed. Blinkers work fine. Hazards work fine. The hand brake light does not blink and the relay just buzzes. What do I need to do. Is the one you make what I need?


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[Spoke]

...The new relay is installed. Blinkers work fine. Hazards work fine. The hand brake light does not blink and the relay just buzzes. What do I need to do. Is the one you make what I need?

The EP26 is available all over the web for $12-$15 and most FLAPS. However, the C2 pin isn't connected to anything. This is the pin which will drive the common connection of the L and R indicators in the tach. The main reason I resell these is I modify the relay to tie the C2 pin to ground on the circuit board inside the flasher.

There are several ways to solve this puzzle.

1) Find an OEM 914 flasher.
2) Purchase an EP26, pop the top and add 1 wire like I do. I show the mod on my website if you want to do it yourself.
3) Purchase and install an unmodified EP26, and add a "Y" pigtail like below to the common connection of the L and R turnsignals.
4) Purchase a modified EP26 from me.

[Minerva's 914]

...The new relay is installed. Blinkers work fine. Hazards work fine. The hand brake light does not blink and the relay just buzzes. What do I need to do. Is the one you make what I need?

The EP26 is available all over the web for $12-$15 and most FLAPS. However, the C2 pin isn't connected to anything. This is the pin which will drive the common connection of the L and R indicators in the tach. The main reason I resell these is I modify the relay to tie the C2 pin to ground on the circuit board inside the flasher.

There are several ways to solve this puzzle.

1) Find an OEM 914 flasher.
2) Purchase an EP26, pop the top and add 1 wire like I do. I show the mod on my website if you want to do it yourself.
3) Purchase and install an unmodified EP26, and add a "Y" pigtail like below to the common connection of the L and R turnsignals.
4) Purchase a modified EP26 from me.

Spoke, I clicked thru to your website based on this thread and a problem I'm experiencing with my brake light flashing and weak right turn signal dash light (blinks normally on the dash for 2 blinks and then both right and left indicators flash very dimly, though the front and rear lights blink normally). I click thru to the 914 link and ordered a relay, sent payment info, etc. I haven't received the relay, nor heard anything about the order. I just went back to your website and now when I click on 914 the page is blank.

HELP

[Spoke]

Spoke, I clicked thru to your website based on this thread and a problem I'm experiencing with my brake light flashing and weak right turn signal dash light (blinks normally on the dash for 2 blinks and then both right and left indicators flash very dimly, though the front and rear lights blink normally). I click thru to the 914 link and ordered a relay, sent payment info, etc. I haven't received the relay, nor heard anything about the order. I just went back to your website and now when I click on 914 the page is blank.

HELP

I have your order. I'll get it out tomorrow. Sorry for the delay. Not a fun week for us. My wife broke her ankle and I've been the home nurse for the last week.

The website is still up. Maybe some cache issues?

[Minerva's 914]

Spoke, I clicked thru to your website based on this thread and a problem I'm experiencing with my brake light flashing and weak right turn signal dash light (blinks normally on the dash for 2 blinks and then both right and left indicators flash very dimly, though the front and rear lights blink normally). I click thru to the 914 link and ordered a relay, sent payment info, etc. I haven't received the relay, nor heard anything about the order. I just went back to your website and now when I click on 914 the page is blank.

HELP

I have your order. I'll get it out tomorrow. Sorry for the delay. Not a fun week for us. My wife broke her ankle and I've been the home nurse for the last week.

The website is still up. Maybe some cache issues?

@spoke

Thank you so much for your excellent service, the relay arrived quickly. I had to leave last week for a trip to Charleston so this weekend was the first opportunity to jump on the 914.

The turn signal switch had not been cancelling after returning to center for a long time so I ordered a replacement and thought I'd do the whole thing at the same time. I replaced the switch and checked to see if that by any chance corrected either the dim double flashing or by some outside chance also corrected the brake light warning flashing. Nope,.okay I didn't think so but worth a try.

Installed the new relay and the turn signals functioned normally. The left signal continued to work fine and the right turn signal stopped the dim double blinking it was doing before and gave a solid flashing. Unfortunately the parking brake light continued to flash all the time HOORAY I thought I was half way there.

As I continued to search for the cause of the braking brake light problem I discovered that the brake master cylinder switch was a single pole switch not the double pole that was needed and was not hooked up at all. I tried hooking up each of the two wires individually, then hooking up each and grounding the other one but nothing seemed to make any difference.

I ordered the correct switch today and will replace it next week when it arrives. I reinstalled the steering wheel and started the car to test the horn and turn signals, flipped the turn signal to the right turn position and the left turn indicator was flashing, tried the left turn position and the right turn indicator was flashing. I pulled the new relay out and reinstalled the old one and now both turn signals and indicators operate normally with the old relay. Returned the new relay to the car and the reversed indicator continues. Btw, the front and rear turn signals continue to function normally the whole time.

I pulled the instrument panel and I see there is a resistor inline to the brake light warning light. Resistor #41806. Wondering if that could possibly be the problem. Can't find on online, any idea what the resistor value is for the resistor or where I can find one.

Thinking about switching to Lucus electric system.

You really seem to know your stuff and I'm hoping that you can give some insight to what is happening here.

Thanks in advance for your help.