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| orthobiz |
Aug 23 2019, 05:54 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,759 Joined: 8-January 07 From: Cadillac, Michigan Member No.: 7,438 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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9/17/19. My resistance numbers are good, my ability to read said number is bad! Paul
9/16/19 I removed the MPS because I could not be assured I was touching the leads appropriately after removing the plug...and what I found...Post 52 Paul 9/15/19 Another update: Tested the vacuum on the MPS, it's fine. Am hoping to test electrically according to PBAnders site: "If the vacuum test is passed, check the coil resistances. The primary coil is measured between terminals 7 and 15 and should measure about 90 ohms. The secondary coil is measured between terminals 8 and 10 and should measure about 350 ohms" Is there a diagram of the terminals? Do I remove the unit to test it? Damn I'm such a newbie! Paul 9/14/19 update: My 1974 2.0 with EFI was running fine. Put in LED taillights, left the ignition on to test the blinkers and then the car started running poorly. Thought I fried my Pertronix, put a new one in, seemed to run fine for a day and then started running poorly again. I took some video today but it really doesn't show what is happening as felt in the seat of my pants, i.e. it stumbles but doesn't crack heads back and forth. A loss of power, maybe a bit worse when warmed up, mild surging that is disconcerting and annoying to say the least. I disconnected the TPS and it didn't run any better. I am wondering if the TPS is bad, could the engine run poorly even if it is disconnected. In other words, does that totally rule the TPS out as the problem? It just has to be something electric, I think. Should I replace the TPS just to see? I can't imagine going back to incandescent lights will help, it's stumbling with or without the LED lights on. I'd rather not go back to points/condenser... Sorry I'm so needy but I am puzzled to say the least! Paul Older posts follow: Update on the update: I fried my Pertronix...see below. Update: it's more like a hesitating stumbling, happening with or without cruising, that is, it also happens under acceleration. Original post follows: My 1974 2.0 started bucking all of a sudden. Researching on the site, I'm thinking it's the TPS. Looked in George's Tech Tips 700 book and he advised disconnecting the TPS harness to see if the bucking went away. To cut to the chase, it bucks especially between 2000-3000 RPM whether the TPS is connected or not. Mainly under light load, while driving and maintaining speed. It seems to do this more when the engine is warming up, rather than when stone cold. I am wondering if I should just replace the TPS board. Does the persistence of this problem after disconnecting the TPS rule it out as a cause? I don't feel like tearing into this unnecessarily. It has a new late style fuel pump that is mounted up front last year, eliminating vapor lock. I've read here that low pressure can be the culprit, but would doubt it in my case. Perhaps the temp change relationship implies a bad CHT sensor? Any ideas on things I can easily check much appreciated. Paul |
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| mepstein |
Aug 23 2019, 06:13 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 20,205 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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Check all grounds and the dizzy.
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| orthobiz |
Aug 23 2019, 06:23 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,759 Joined: 8-January 07 From: Cadillac, Michigan Member No.: 7,438 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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orthobiz Stumbling 1974 2.0...It's finally fixed. Post 63. Aug 23 2019, 05:54 PM
mepstein
Check all grounds and the dizzy.
What on the d... Aug 23 2019, 07:03 PM
northern chris You can also try disconnecting each injector one a... Aug 23 2019, 06:54 PM
Rand Not sure about that last comment. One injector? Un... Aug 23 2019, 07:02 PM
northern chris
Not sure about that last comment. One injector? N... Aug 23 2019, 07:07 PM
Rand
Not sure about that last comment. One injector? ... Aug 23 2019, 07:09 PM
Rand Is it stumbling some, or is it real bucking as in ... Aug 23 2019, 07:11 PM
orthobiz
Is it stumbling some, or is it real bucking as in... Aug 23 2019, 07:55 PM
mepstein Mine was car shaking bucking. Aug 23 2019, 08:07 PM
Rand
Mine was car shaking bucking.
R&R... Please ... Aug 23 2019, 08:21 PM
mepstein
Mine was car shaking bucking.
R&R... Please... Aug 23 2019, 08:34 PM
ironken62
[quote name='Rand' post='2741035' date='Aug 23 20... Aug 25 2019, 06:41 PM
HansJan I had similar issues when coasting around 3,000 rp... Aug 25 2019, 08:27 PM
Rand The 123 is one of the hugest upgrades that everyon... Aug 25 2019, 09:25 PM
falcor75 Does the bucking go away under full throttle? Did ... Aug 25 2019, 09:40 PM
rjames
Why? Unless you’ve verified the correct pres... Aug 25 2019, 10:16 PM
orthobiz The car had horrible vapor lock and it was elimina... Aug 26 2019, 02:36 PM
porschetub Totally check your ignition system before saying y... Aug 26 2019, 01:19 AM
orthobiz Thanks for all the replies. The stumbling occurs u... Aug 26 2019, 02:28 PM
rhodyguy Is your tps calibrated with an ohm meter? Aug 26 2019, 02:34 PM
orthobiz I did not check it. However, with the ignition on,... Aug 26 2019, 02:39 PM
rjames
I did not check it. However, with the ignition on... Aug 26 2019, 05:36 PM
orthobiz Update: spoke with my mechanic, the car has Pertro... Aug 26 2019, 06:26 PM
orthobiz In reading about the Pertronix, which is what I ha... Aug 26 2019, 07:06 PM
Sm914650 Im also having a bucking issue with a 73 1.7.
See... Aug 26 2019, 07:12 PM
rjames
Im also having a bucking issue with a 73 1.7.
Se... Aug 26 2019, 07:52 PM
orthobiz rjames had me thinking...the last thing I did was ... Sep 7 2019, 12:59 PM
JeffBowlsby So one has to wonder if the Pertronix is truly an ... Sep 7 2019, 03:03 PM
orthobiz
So one has to wonder if the Pertronix is truly an... Sep 7 2019, 05:36 PM
FlacaProductions LEDs are most certainly an upgrade. I don't t... Sep 7 2019, 03:44 PM
ndfrigi here is what I posted also on other thread:
here ... Sep 7 2019, 03:55 PM
Tbrown4x4 I hope this is contributing to the thread and not ... Sep 7 2019, 04:41 PM
rhodyguy Check the lights with the engine running. :) Sep 7 2019, 06:05 PM
orthobiz Thanks for being patient with me everybody. I repl... Sep 8 2019, 12:59 PM
porschetub Did you replace with Ignitor 1 ?,I've never bu... Sep 8 2019, 02:26 PM
orthobiz Ignitor 2 BUT I am using a Bosch Blue Coil. I... Sep 8 2019, 02:31 PM
porschetub
Ignitor 2 BUT I am using a Bosch Blue Coil. I... Sep 9 2019, 01:40 PM
orthobiz Thanks but I think I'm just not having any luc... Sep 11 2019, 01:53 PM
orthobiz So I did more checking according to the Ignitor II... Sep 13 2019, 06:15 PM
rjames
So I did more checking according to the Ignitor I... Sep 13 2019, 11:17 PM
rjames
So I did more checking according to the Ignitor I... Sep 13 2019, 11:18 PM
orthobiz Updated post #1.
Paul Sep 14 2019, 12:25 PM
mepstein Time for the six conversion :evilgrin: Sep 14 2019, 01:13 PM
orthobiz Looking to test MPS according to my post #1. Set t... Sep 15 2019, 07:05 PM
JeffBowlsby Vacuum pump test at 15 in. Hg.
Ohm test inner and... Sep 15 2019, 07:54 PM
rjames
Vacuum pump test at 15 in. Hg.
Ohm test inner an... Sep 15 2019, 09:41 PM
orthobiz No previous adjustments...will test tomorrow, than... Sep 15 2019, 08:14 PM
914werke if it still has the epoxy filled over it nose ..it... Sep 15 2019, 11:49 PM
JeffBowlsby To be sure, it also needs the four aluminum rivets... Sep 16 2019, 05:08 PM
orthobiz I took the MPS out. Could they make ANYTHING on th... Sep 16 2019, 08:15 PM
orthobiz http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/live.... Sep 16 2019, 08:17 PM
orthobiz Also, it has passed the 15 inch Hg test without an... Sep 16 2019, 08:47 PM
JeffBowlsby For 0.362 ohms...sure your DVM was not set to the ... Sep 16 2019, 09:05 PM
orthobiz Actually it is set to KOhm on the meter, but the o... Sep 17 2019, 03:23 AM
rjames You will need an 02 sensor to tune it properly, so... Sep 17 2019, 12:46 AM
orthobiz It's embarrassing...
My Micronta Radio Shack ... Sep 17 2019, 07:11 AM
ChrisFoley Two suggestions: Pull the injectors and spray carb... Sep 17 2019, 08:37 AM
orthobiz Thanks Chris. Am considering all options!
Pau... Sep 17 2019, 11:38 AM
Rod I had a very similar bucking to you under load and... Sep 17 2019, 04:19 PM
orthobiz Good idea to check the grounds. I have a set of kn... Sep 17 2019, 04:38 PM
orthobiz So I towed the car to Brad 914Ltd. Turns out the t... Jun 19 2020, 02:51 PM
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