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| BeatNavy |
Sep 6 2019, 03:06 PM
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Certified Professional Scapegoat ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,955 Joined: 26-February 14 From: Easton, MD Member No.: 17,042 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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The last week or so I've been breaking in a new engine I built last winter and finally manage to install a couple of weeks ago. I'm pretty happy with how it pulls, and after a LOT of fiddling with the MPS and timing I think I've got it where it will start right up, idle cold (barely), idle nicely when warm, and run with nice cool head temps. I do seem to have a slight bit of ping/detonation under load around 2800 to 3000 RPM, so I guess I need to play with timing a bit more.
I am much less happy with the oil leaks. I know building a leak-free Type IV is a challenge, and given this is my first effort, I didn't expect perfection. But right now it's leaking pretty badly in a couple of places: out of the transmission weep hole (probably RMS, I guess), somewhere around oil filter console and/or pressure relief valve, and, surprisingly, what seems to be sort of spraying out and around oil filler neck. Here I need help from the World; I see a combination of three possible causes for this many leaks (when I otherwise took my time and tried to follow guidelines, using Jake's recommended sealants): 1. My own inexperience 2. Too much crankcase pressure from rings not seating yet 3. Too much crankcase pressure from no head venting. Here are some details on build: 2056 with 9950 Cam using D-Jet Brand new AA Heads built by HAM, and Len sealed up the vents 96mm KB Pistons with Hastings Rings 8.6 CR A couple of notes: I didn't gap the rings per Jake's philosophy that crankcase pressure is what causes oil leaks, and the rings come properly gapped. Also, Len (and Jake) don't like head venting for oil flow (so my heads had vent plugged). If I understand him correctly, Len told me the stock PCV vale should provide enough crankcase pressure relief on a street car. RMS is the Sabo brand (the "good" one). Any thoughts on 1, 2 or 3 above? I'm willing to pull the engine and reseal, but I wanted to see if 2 or 3 are possibilities that I need to address. Is the stock PCV valve (which I am sure is not clogged) enough pressure relief? Thanks for any help. |
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| BeatNavy |
Sep 17 2019, 03:53 PM
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Certified Professional Scapegoat ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,955 Joined: 26-February 14 From: Easton, MD Member No.: 17,042 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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Thanks, Frank. Good points. The knocking/detonation thing is perplexing me a bit. Tried adjusting the MPS a little richer at WOT to see if that would help, but there was still some under heavy load. Still need to fiddle more with timing, I guess, but I either need to fix my advance timing light or buy a new one. Also entertaining buying a cooler range of spark plug. Anyone have thoughts there?
Good news is oil leaks are significantly better, and the engine gives nice power - a lot of fun to drive (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) and the weather is looking NICE for the next few days. |
| Frank S |
Sep 18 2019, 03:32 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 135 Joined: 15-April 15 From: Wiesbaden, Germany Member No.: 18,632 Region Association: Germany
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Also entertaining buying a cooler range of spark plug. Anyone have thoughts there?
[/quote] I'm running NGK BP6RES and they are looking good. Regarding the timing, I run a programmable system. Idles fine between 10 and 12° BTDC with maximum advance of 27° BTDC from 3000 RPM onwards. Had plans to adjust timing on a dyno, but next winter project is to update the engine with a DIY Stealth Megasquirt system, so I never tried to run more advance, I know Jake recommends 28° BTDC but the engine is running cool and strong as it is and I will put it on the Dyno after the upgrade... |
BeatNavy Breaking in New Engine Sep 6 2019, 03:06 PM
Superhawk996 Sounds an awful lot like too much crank case press... Sep 6 2019, 03:17 PM
BeatNavy Thanks for the ideas.
How many miles are on it? ... Sep 6 2019, 03:50 PM
Superhawk996 0.015 ring end gap is great. Factory manual is 0.... Sep 6 2019, 04:54 PM
HAM Inc Rob try this. Remove the oil filler cap and fashio... Sep 6 2019, 04:46 PM
Superhawk996 Great suggestion Len! Simplicity. I love it... Sep 6 2019, 04:55 PM
BeatNavy
Great suggestion Len! Simplicity. I love it... Sep 6 2019, 05:12 PM
HAM Inc
Great suggestion Len! Simplicity. I love i... Sep 6 2019, 05:27 PM
Olympic 914 Regarding KB pistons ring gap. They recommend a l... Sep 6 2019, 05:07 PM
rhodyguy Is the PCV valve functional? Sep 6 2019, 05:32 PM
Superhawk996 I just gotta ask on other question that I've a... Sep 6 2019, 05:37 PM
BeatNavy Yeah, interesting on the KB pistons. Hmmm....hope... Sep 6 2019, 06:04 PM
BeatNavy Just to follow up on this. I tapped a hole in the... Sep 9 2019, 04:07 PM
Superhawk996 Try this trick for item #3. Anneal the copper exh... Sep 10 2019, 06:18 PM
BeatNavy
Try this trick for item #3. Anneal the copper ex... Sep 10 2019, 07:05 PM
Superhawk996 On item #1, oil temp gauge or temp sensor could be... Sep 10 2019, 06:24 PM
Superhawk996 Good luck! If heat exchanger 1/2 was leaking... Sep 10 2019, 07:21 PM
BeatNavy Ok, small update. It took a frustratingly long ti... Sep 16 2019, 02:48 PM
Frank S Progress, but it takes a ton of time to fine tune ... Sep 17 2019, 02:47 PM
worn
Progress, but it takes a ton of time to fine tune... Sep 17 2019, 06:47 PM

Frank S Wow. I thought i was the only one driving with a ... Sep 18 2019, 03:39 AM

BeatNavy
Hard to adjust something you can not measure. Thi... Sep 18 2019, 05:21 AM

Frank S
Hard to adjust something you can not measure. Th... Sep 18 2019, 10:43 AM
Superhawk996
Progress, but it takes a ton of time to fine tune... Sep 18 2019, 05:20 AM
Frank S How about posting about your center console setup?... Sep 18 2019, 10:30 AM
Frank S
How about posting about your center console setup... Sep 18 2019, 10:31 AM
BeatNavy This is excellent information, thanks Frank. Have... Sep 18 2019, 03:24 PM
Frank S
This is excellent information, thanks Frank. Hav... Sep 19 2019, 01:48 AM
Superhawk996 In Franks case I assume he is using the lambda to ... Sep 18 2019, 03:42 PM
Frank S
In Franks case I assume he is using the lambda to... Sep 19 2019, 01:56 AM
BeatNavy Yeah, I think you do both. You can't just go ... Sep 18 2019, 03:58 PM
Superhawk996 In your case do you have a wideband lambda sensor ... Sep 18 2019, 04:06 PM
BeatNavy I do. I didn’t really trust it when I had an ex... Sep 18 2019, 04:32 PM
Mark Henry On the RMS leak always give the oil the sniff test... Sep 19 2019, 11:46 AM
BeatNavy Ok, circling back on this to add to the 914World k... Dec 18 2019, 04:51 PM
Superhawk996 Wow.
That's a lot to digest. Thanks for p... Dec 18 2019, 05:28 PM
Dion Special rings! :—) Heheheh, Uggh. Glad you... Dec 18 2019, 05:55 PM
rhodyguy Putting a floor jack under each control arm will g... Dec 18 2019, 05:59 PM
Olympic 914 Just sticking this in here..
More ring gap stuff,... Dec 19 2019, 08:06 AM
BeatNavy
Just sticking this in here..
More ring gap stuff... Dec 19 2019, 08:31 AM
Superhawk996
To be fair (to them), I have to believe one or b... Dec 19 2019, 08:43 AM
BeatNavy
To be fair (to them), I have to believe one or ... Dec 19 2019, 08:52 AM![]() ![]() |
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