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RolinkHaus
post Sep 26 2019, 09:47 AM
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Just curious, what's this system worth? Compressor and bracket included, but not shown. Not sure if compressor works.
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DickSteinkamp
post Sep 26 2019, 10:16 PM
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I would have to say that if you absolutely need an air conditioned car that a 914 shouldn't be on your short list. The dash units were not very attractive and were intrusive, holes need to be cut in the body to run the hoses, the floor needs to be hacked out of the frunk for the condenser, the compressor saps what little power the stock engines have, they are old skool technology and cool only marginally.

Drive your newer car on those hot muggy days and save your 914 for "nice" days.
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post Sep 27 2019, 05:38 AM
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QUOTE(DickSteinkamp @ Sep 27 2019, 12:16 AM) *

I would have to say that if you absolutely need an air conditioned car that a 914 shouldn't be on your short list. The dash units were not very attractive and were intrusive, holes need to be cut in the body to run the hoses, the floor needs to be hacked out of the frunk for the condenser, the compressor saps what little power the stock engines have, they are old skool technology and cool only marginally.

Drive your newer car on those hot muggy days and save your 914 for "nice" days.


Agree with you completely except on the point of cooling marginally, my teener had a functional R12 system when i bought it. That baby blew cold and there really isn't much cabin volume to cool down in the 1st place. Was amazed that such an old system was still holding charge and worked!.

For those of us in the midwest, by the time you account for the snow days, and the hot muggy days, and the rainy days, that only allows for 15 days a year to drive (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)

I'm not so sure about trashing it. Things have a way of going in circles as tastes change. The A/C is an interesting period piece. I'm still contemplating how to get A/C eventually but with a modern compressor, tubes routed in the tunnel, and proper bulkhead pass through plates.

When I 1st got my Miata, I thought A/c was for whimps. Then I realized how great functional heat and A/C was. Or maybe I just became a whimp. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)
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post Sep 27 2019, 06:14 AM
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QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Sep 27 2019, 06:38 AM) *

QUOTE(DickSteinkamp @ Sep 27 2019, 12:16 AM) *

I would have to say that if you absolutely need an air conditioned car that a 914 shouldn't be on your short list. The dash units were not very attractive and were intrusive, holes need to be cut in the body to run the hoses, the floor needs to be hacked out of the frunk for the condenser, the compressor saps what little power the stock engines have, they are old skool technology and cool only marginally.

Drive your newer car on those hot muggy days and save your 914 for "nice" days.


Agree with you completely except on the point of cooling marginally, my teener had a functional R12 system when i bought it. That baby blew cold and there really isn't much cabin volume to cool down in the 1st place. Was amazed that such an old system was still holding charge and worked!.

For those of us in the midwest, by the time you account for the snow days, and the hot muggy days, and the rainy days, that only allows for 15 days a year to drive (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)

I'm not so sure about trashing it. Things have a way of going in circles as tastes change. The A/C is an interesting period piece. I'm still contemplating how to get A/C eventually but with a modern compressor, tubes routed in the tunnel, and proper bulkhead pass through plates.

When I 1st got my Miata, I thought A/c was for whimps. Then I realized how great functional heat and A/C was. Or maybe I just became a whimp. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)


It is completely clear that neither of you live in the Southwest, especially Texas. If you don't have AC, you don't drive 10 months of the year. Betty's car has a functional DPD system in it, and it is driven year round. But the heater is not hooked up. She says she doesn't need it. I plan on putting AC into my 4.0L car. With the 964 alternator, I can run an electric compressor and cut down on the lines running the length of the car.

Oh.. and we don't have a "Newer car" to drive when it gets hot. And the AC in Betty's car will turn you into a popsicle on a 100 degree day.

So don't go dissing the AC systems. They can be made to work quite well with limited power loss on the engine.


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post Sep 27 2019, 08:46 AM
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QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Sep 27 2019, 05:14 AM) *


It is completely clear that neither of you live in the Southwest, especially Texas.



Good point. AC is pretty necessary in many parts of the US if you want to drive your collector car often. We are spoiled here in the PNW. I think I ran the AC in my daily driver about 4 times this past summer. It's easy to forget that it is unbearably more hot and humid in other areas.

I like the idea of an electric powered compressor and new (Vintage Air?) evaporator, condenser, etc. Little power drain on the engine. Fewer holes to cut. Shorter hose routing. Efficient. Maintainable.
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RolinkHaus   A/C system worth   Sep 26 2019, 09:47 AM
914Sixer   Hard to say. People are hesitant to cut front flo...   Sep 26 2019, 10:04 AM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   Hard to say. People are hesitant to cut front fl...   Sep 26 2019, 10:09 AM
dlee6204   I’d say 200-300 but the dash unit has to be inta...   Sep 26 2019, 10:17 AM
Superhawk996   Congrats on getting it out of the car! :Qarl:   Sep 26 2019, 06:05 PM
mepstein   I usually give them away. Even that’s a challen...   Sep 26 2019, 06:17 PM
Andyrew   I usually give them away. Even that’s a challe...   Sep 26 2019, 09:10 PM
roblav1   I trashed mine from two 911s. No one wanted them.   Sep 26 2019, 10:07 PM
DickSteinkamp   I would have to say that if you absolutely need an...   Sep 26 2019, 10:16 PM
Superhawk996   I would have to say that if you absolutely need a...   Sep 27 2019, 05:38 AM
ClayPerrine   I would have to say that if you absolutely need ...   Sep 27 2019, 06:14 AM
DickSteinkamp   It is completely clear that neither of you live ...   Sep 27 2019, 08:46 AM
ClayPerrine   It is completely clear that neither of you live...   Sep 27 2019, 09:32 AM
mepstein   [quote name='DickSteinkamp' post='2750586' date='...   Sep 27 2019, 09:46 AM
Superhawk996   @ClayPerrine Do you have the original York compr...   Sep 27 2019, 07:12 AM
ClayPerrine   [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s...   Sep 27 2019, 08:13 AM
Superhawk996   [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?...   Sep 27 2019, 10:24 AM
ClayPerrine   [quote name='ClayPerrine' post='2750578' date='Se...   Sep 27 2019, 12:09 PM
Superhawk996   [quote name='ClayPerrine' post='2750578' date='S...   Sep 27 2019, 02:34 PM
Beach914   I gave one away out of a 74 a few years ago. Prob...   Sep 27 2019, 07:45 AM
Steve   You can buy a new underdash for around $315.0...   Sep 27 2019, 07:56 AM
rhodyguy   Did the install involve cutting the engine shelve ...   Sep 27 2019, 08:18 AM
mepstein   We have a 911 customer who gets A/C on all his bui...   Sep 27 2019, 08:20 AM
JOEPROPER   :agree: It depends where you live, but I would pa...   Sep 27 2019, 08:41 AM
AZBanks   Those who think AC is unnecessary have never spent...   Sep 27 2019, 12:02 PM
JawjaPorsche   Try driving your teener in Phoenix in 110 degrees ...   Sep 28 2019, 04:06 AM
GaroldShaffer   I have dealer installed AC in my daily driver 914 ...   Sep 28 2019, 06:20 AM
Amphicar770   If my 914 did not have AC I would have sold it yea...   Sep 29 2019, 11:51 AM


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