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| RKramden |
Jan 20 2020, 02:17 PM
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This is my first time starting a topic, I don't know if I am even typing in the correct location, but I am having an issue with my '74 LJet and fuel pump. The pump starts with the ignition switch, Pump also runs when Air sensor arm is manually moved. However when starting, it seems that the air sensor is somehow cutting off the fuel pump circuit. The PO had bent the arm so it never opened, but I have bent it back to move as designed. If I disconnect the electrical plug to the Air Sensor, the car starts and runs fine......any thoughts? BTW I have replaced the dual relay, but that did not fix the problem.
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| RKramden |
Jan 22 2020, 11:11 AM
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 47 Joined: 26-October 19 From: So. California Member No.: 23,589 Region Association: Southern California |
Thanks All!!
So I checked the Vac lines, all to the right spot and all new Large intake rubber hose taped up temp for now. New one coming Unplugged AFM or Air Flow Sensor (they seem to be used synonymously) and the engine will start and idle. The flapper moves freely and the pump contact closes when engine starts. If I give it gas it will quit. Seems logical as the ECU is looking for an air signal, assume it will idle without one. If I plug it in, it quits. My feeble mind thinks that maybe the fuel pump has been hotwired to bypass the AFM/Dual relay signal and somehow sending that signal is grounding out the fuel pump. As previously noted the PO had bent the arm in the AFM so that it would never make contact (I have bent it back to norm). I will try to trace the fuel power this evening. Could someone confirm that the ECU is out of the picture as far as fuel pump power goes? In the line diagrams I have seen, it looks like pump power is either Ignition switch to Dual Relay to pump, or AFM pump relay to dual relay to pump. Input #20 to the ECU looks to be monitoring the pump relay, but I am not sure what it is doing with that input. thanks again. |
RKramden '74 1.8L LJet/fuel pump Jan 20 2020, 02:17 PM
ndfrigi do you mind also sharing pic of your car and engin... Jan 20 2020, 02:35 PM
RKramden
do you mind also sharing pic of your car and engi... Jan 20 2020, 03:04 PM
ClayPerrine Check where the engine harness plugs into the rela... Jan 21 2020, 01:56 PM
RKramden I will check this evening, but I am getting fuel w... Jan 21 2020, 02:12 PM
ClayPerrine
I will check this evening, but I am getting fuel ... Jan 21 2020, 02:19 PM
ClayPerrine
I will check this evening, but I am getting fuel... Jan 21 2020, 02:20 PM
RKramden thanks Clay, I will check all those things tonight... Jan 21 2020, 03:11 PM
jcd914
thanks Clay, I will check all those things tonigh... Jan 21 2020, 03:28 PM
dr914@autoatlanta.com with the key on and when you move the arm under th... Jan 21 2020, 03:44 PM
porschetub
This is my first time starting a topic, I don... Jan 21 2020, 03:47 PM
ClayPerrine
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My understanding was that the pump only gets p... Jan 22 2020, 08:29 AM
ndfrigi @rkramden I have spare AFM for Ljet, if you are a... Jan 21 2020, 05:04 PM
ClayPerrine Try these tests:
1. Disconnect the Yellow wire o... Jan 22 2020, 12:36 PM
RKramden
Try these tests:
1. Disconnect the Yellow wire ... Jan 22 2020, 01:24 PM
ClayPerrine
Try these tests:
1. Disconnect the Yellow wire... Jan 22 2020, 02:16 PM
RKramden
[quote name='RKramden' post='2779785' date='Jan 2... Jan 23 2020, 10:12 AM
ClayPerrine
Clay, I am leaning towards the AFM as the issue ... Jan 23 2020, 03:10 PM
RKramden Interesting......just makes it harder for us novic... Jan 23 2020, 05:02 PM
ndfrigi
Interesting......just makes it harder for us novi... Jan 23 2020, 07:51 PM
RKramden I will check ohms on AFM this weekend. If they do... Jan 24 2020, 11:41 AM
ClayPerrine
I will check ohms on AFM this weekend. If they d... Jan 24 2020, 01:55 PM
RKramden I continuity tested all the wires from the ECU and... Jan 24 2020, 03:12 PM
Rob-O
[quote name='RKramden' post='2780266' date='Jan 2... Jan 24 2020, 09:57 PM
porschetub Are the wiper boards still being made by anybody ?... Jan 25 2020, 02:02 PM
Rob-O The only ‘wiper boards’ I know of that we’re... Jan 25 2020, 04:02 PM
Rob-O Forgot to add, I looked at Fuel Injection Corp’s... Jan 25 2020, 04:12 PM
Rob-O BTW, you’re welcome to my old AFM. It had been ... Jan 25 2020, 04:25 PM
RKramden SUCCESS---kind of
Ohm tested the AFM and was 290 b... Jan 27 2020, 08:29 AM
ClayPerrine Now you know the harness is bad, so I suggest gett... Jan 27 2020, 08:46 AM
RKramden
Now you know the harness is bad, so I suggest get... Jan 27 2020, 10:42 AM![]() ![]() |
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