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> Anyone used the longitudinal outer clamshells on a street car?, Time for hard choices
Superhawk996
post Mar 22 2020, 06:46 PM
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Curious if anyone has use the outer longitudinal clamshell reinforcement on a street car?

Did you have any unforseen down stream effects to other panels like the door jamb, or the rocker panel? Also thickens the upper flange and I'm wondering if this will cause fit issues later with the door stripping, or maybe even the cosmetic sill plates.

Starting to seem like this might be a good idea for race car prep but probably not ideal for just trying to fit up replacement sheetmetal and still have OEM fits. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

I'm not in love with the additional weight either.

I can keep mocking up additional pieces but thought I'd see what the collective wisdom of the forum knows.
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post Mar 23 2020, 08:14 PM
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I made my own long inners... bent and welded to the floors, bent over the top shelf and welded near the seam, and welded to the rear bulkhead and inner fenderwells. Rosette welds all over the place too. It's now the stiffest 914 I've seen.
I also welded in triangular gussets between the inner longs and the rear bulkhead, like a 911 Targa.
I once had a Lotus Esprit V8 twin turbo. It was by far the worst sports car I ever drove. Awful torsional rigidity. I gladly give up about 20 lbs of weight in additional steel to gain even 20 percent more torsional rigidity. Besides, all the 911 engine and stuff is an additional couple hundred lbs.
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post Mar 24 2020, 06:34 AM
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QUOTE(roblav1 @ Mar 23 2020, 10:14 PM) *


I once had a Lotus Esprit V8 twin turbo. It was by far the worst sports car I ever drove. Awful torsional rigidity. I gladly give up about 20 lbs of weight in additional steel to gain even 20 percent more torsional rigidity.


But have you driven an Elise or Exige? Esprit era was hardly a high point for Lotus. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)
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Superhawk996   Anyone used the longitudinal outer clamshells on a street car?   Mar 22 2020, 06:46 PM
Mikey914   Check with Brad Mayer, he made some really stout r...   Mar 23 2020, 02:34 AM
Rleog   Chris Foley at Tangerine Racing fitted a pair of t...   Mar 23 2020, 04:50 AM
Superhawk996   Chris Foley at Tangerine Racing fitted a pair of ...   Mar 23 2020, 05:44 AM
914Sixer   Look at Restoration Design set up, tight fitting...   Mar 23 2020, 05:46 AM
Superhawk996   Look at Restoration Design set up, tight fittin...   Mar 23 2020, 06:32 AM
Tdskip   Why not interior bracing?   Mar 23 2020, 05:56 AM
Superhawk996   Why not interior bracing? Bulkheads within the...   Mar 23 2020, 06:23 AM
Luke M   I installed the RD clam shells and a mad dog inner...   Mar 23 2020, 06:35 AM
Tdskip   . The inner kit requires a lot more fitting work ...   Mar 23 2020, 12:44 PM
Mark Henry   My 914 body is a "rust free" example, my...   Mar 23 2020, 09:18 AM
ClayPerrine   I have the Brad Mauyer external longitudinal kit i...   Mar 23 2020, 11:26 AM
burton73   I have the Brad Mauyer external longitudinal kit ...   Mar 23 2020, 12:20 PM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   I originally designed the clamshells to support a ...   Mar 23 2020, 11:30 AM
Superhawk996   I originally designed the clamshells to support a...   Mar 23 2020, 12:54 PM
jd74914   I did a little quick math this morning on the ben...   Mar 24 2020, 06:32 AM
Superhawk996   duplicate post -   Mar 24 2020, 06:44 AM
Superhawk996   @JD74914 Damn James, you're going to force m...   Mar 24 2020, 06:45 AM
jd74914   Damn James, you're going to force me to up my...   Mar 24 2020, 06:54 AM
914forme   I ran them both. 914LTD, and Egmann kits, and a GT...   Mar 23 2020, 06:35 PM
914forme   I ran them both. 914LTD, and Egmann kits, and a GT...   Mar 23 2020, 06:35 PM
roblav1   I made my own long inners... bent and welded to t...   Mar 23 2020, 08:14 PM
Superhawk996   I once had a Lotus Esprit V8 twin turbo. It was...   Mar 24 2020, 06:34 AM
jd74914   BTW: Don't remember if it's written in tha...   Mar 24 2020, 06:59 AM
914forme   In reality the best would be to open the Log add a...   Mar 24 2020, 07:54 AM
ClayPerrine   Or weld on a metal roof, and be done. I have a...   Mar 24 2020, 08:26 AM
roblav1   I've never driven those newer Lotus. A lot of...   Mar 24 2020, 08:39 AM


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