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Joe average13
post May 9 2020, 06:59 AM
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Hello. Curious of opinions for these headlights, does anyone have halo lights installed? Thanks


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I like the idea of the DRL using the @Spoke white portion of the European front lights. Question is, are they bright enough for that purpose? Could the white portion be brighter and be dimmed down to a proper level once the headlights are turned on?

Wondering how these would need to be wired up the most elegant way to work, also if the car has side markers or not (different connection scheme?). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

New variation of a product? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
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QUOTE(Montreal914 @ May 10 2020, 11:53 AM) *

I like the idea of the DRL using the @Spoke white portion of the European front lights. Question is, are they bright enough for that purpose? Could the white portion be brighter and be dimmed down to a proper level once the headlights are turned on?

Wondering how these would need to be wired up the most elegant way to work, also if the car has side markers or not (different connection scheme?). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

New variation of a product? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)


No, or minimal change in wiring needed. My 73 headlights don't pop up when the switch is pulled half-way to parking light position and the Euro parking lights just divert power to a separate bulb in the white secition rather than the dual filament bulb in the amber section. Wiring and operation to the side markers remains unchanged. I just have 5w incandescent bulbs in my euro units right now for testing but even with just those, I think they would provide a bit of safety as DRLs. LED are only going to be better.

Now all that said, I remember I had to swap a wire connection on my first (70) 914 to keep the headlights down when the switch was pulled to parking light position. I don't know if the offiicial wiring schematic changed in that regard later or what but I guess on some cars, you might have to make the 2-minute change although I con't remember specifics of what wire went where for that.
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QUOTE(Montreal914 @ May 10 2020, 11:53 AM) *

I like the idea of the DRL using the @Spoke white portion of the European front lights. Question is, are they bright enough for that purpose? Could the white portion be brighter and be dimmed down to a proper level once the headlights are turned on?

Wondering how these would need to be wired up the most elegant way to work, also if the car has side markers or not (different connection scheme?). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

New variation of a product? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)


No, or minimal change in wiring needed. My 73 headlights don't pop up when the switch is pulled half-way to parking light position and the Euro parking lights just divert power to a separate bulb in the white secition rather than the dual filament bulb in the amber section. Wiring and operation to the side markers remains unchanged. I just have 5w incandescent bulbs in my euro units right now for testing but even with just those, I think they would provide a bit of safety as DRLs. LED are only going to be better.

Now all that said, I remember I had to swap a wire connection on my first (70) 914 to keep the headlights down when the switch was pulled to parking light position. I don't know if the offiicial wiring schematic changed in that regard later or what but I guess on some cars, you might have to make the 2-minute change although I con't remember specifics of what wire went where for that.




Well, that would be if you want to turn on all the parking light with the switch. My view on this concept is that only the white portion of the EU front lights are one when the car is running, no switch turned on, just like a modern car.

I don't think a standard marker light brightness would be enough to get the safety of a DRL, hence brighter LED for running but when parking or headlights are turned on, then they dim down to normal brightness. This circuitry would have to be embedded on the PCB of the upgraded lighting.

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QUOTE(Montreal914 @ May 10 2020, 12:52 PM) *

QUOTE(bbrock @ May 10 2020, 11:29 AM) *

QUOTE(Montreal914 @ May 10 2020, 11:53 AM) *

I like the idea of the DRL using the @Spoke white portion of the European front lights. Question is, are they bright enough for that purpose? Could the white portion be brighter and be dimmed down to a proper level once the headlights are turned on?

Wondering how these would need to be wired up the most elegant way to work, also if the car has side markers or not (different connection scheme?). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

New variation of a product? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)


No, or minimal change in wiring needed. My 73 headlights don't pop up when the switch is pulled half-way to parking light position and the Euro parking lights just divert power to a separate bulb in the white secition rather than the dual filament bulb in the amber section. Wiring and operation to the side markers remains unchanged. I just have 5w incandescent bulbs in my euro units right now for testing but even with just those, I think they would provide a bit of safety as DRLs. LED are only going to be better.

Now all that said, I remember I had to swap a wire connection on my first (70) 914 to keep the headlights down when the switch was pulled to parking light position. I don't know if the offiicial wiring schematic changed in that regard later or what but I guess on some cars, you might have to make the 2-minute change although I con't remember specifics of what wire went where for that.




Well, that would be if you want to turn on all the parking light with the switch. My view on this concept is that only the white portion of the EU front lights are one when the car is running, no switch turned on, just like a modern car.

I don't think a standard marker light brightness would be enough to get the safety of a DRL, hence brighter LED for running but when parking or headlights are turned on, then they dim down to normal brightness. This circuitry would have to be embedded on the PCB of the upgraded lighting.


Ah gotcha. I've never had a car with running lights that are always on. I"ve always just had to switch on fog or parking lights so I'm in the stone age. When I was driving 914s, I tended to run with the parking lights on all the time anyway.

I agree about the standard marker light brightness, I didn't explain it well. What I was trying to say is that the standard bulbs in the white Euro section of the lenses produce more light than I expected and would probably be enough to grab oncoming driver's attention during the day but brighter lights would certainly be better. Either way, I think clear on Euro lights can add a margin of safety even if they don't match a true DRL.
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QUOTE(bbrock @ May 10 2020, 11:23 AM) *

QUOTE(Montreal914 @ May 10 2020, 12:52 PM) *

QUOTE(bbrock @ May 10 2020, 11:29 AM) *

QUOTE(Montreal914 @ May 10 2020, 11:53 AM) *

I like the idea of the DRL using the @Spoke white portion of the European front lights. Question is, are they bright enough for that purpose? Could the white portion be brighter and be dimmed down to a proper level once the headlights are turned on?

Wondering how these would need to be wired up the most elegant way to work, also if the car has side markers or not (different connection scheme?). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

New variation of a product? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)


No, or minimal change in wiring needed. My 73 headlights don't pop up when the switch is pulled half-way to parking light position and the Euro parking lights just divert power to a separate bulb in the white secition rather than the dual filament bulb in the amber section. Wiring and operation to the side markers remains unchanged. I just have 5w incandescent bulbs in my euro units right now for testing but even with just those, I think they would provide a bit of safety as DRLs. LED are only going to be better.

Now all that said, I remember I had to swap a wire connection on my first (70) 914 to keep the headlights down when the switch was pulled to parking light position. I don't know if the offiicial wiring schematic changed in that regard later or what but I guess on some cars, you might have to make the 2-minute change although I con't remember specifics of what wire went where for that.




Well, that would be if you want to turn on all the parking light with the switch. My view on this concept is that only the white portion of the EU front lights are one when the car is running, no switch turned on, just like a modern car.

I don't think a standard marker light brightness would be enough to get the safety of a DRL, hence brighter LED for running but when parking or headlights are turned on, then they dim down to normal brightness. This circuitry would have to be embedded on the PCB of the upgraded lighting.


Ah gotcha. I've never had a car with running lights that are always on. I"ve always just had to switch on fog or parking lights so I'm in the stone age. When I was driving 914s, I tended to run with the parking lights on all the time anyway.

I agree about the standard marker light brightness, I didn't explain it well. What I was trying to say is that the standard bulbs in the white Euro section of the lenses produce more light than I expected and would probably be enough to grab oncoming driver's attention during the day but brighter lights would certainly be better. Either way, I think clear on Euro lights can add a margin of safety even if they don't match a true DRL.

It's easy to add those euro light fittings too.
Just pop in one of those. And a dimming relay.
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