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> HELP! Is there anyone who knows 924's better than I do?, 924 Martini Edition + complete project $1,500
Ace Le Count
post Aug 10 2020, 12:27 AM
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Okay fellow Porsche enthusiasts, I've recently come across the opportunity to buy a 924 Martini Edition for $1,500 and I was wondering if there is a way to know for sure that it's an authentic World Championship Edition (equipment code 426) and not a standard 042-equipped car?

It comes with another car for parts. Needs a few things as it's been sitting since 2003. It is missing the plaque, but has the red interior and side stripes that it's supposed to have. The seller was driving it and cracked the head due to an air bubble. It was replaced but the fan belt snapped on the way home. After that it just sat. 17 years later, the seller claims that mice have chewed up the plug wire. What do you think? $1,500 for 2 924's. The second car appears to be pretty complete, too. Is there a way to authenticate the martini car? How can we know for certain that it's the real deal? The VIN is 9247210022

The cars are in another state.

I've posted a thread on 924Board.org, but it seems to get less traffic than 914 world, so I thought I'd reach out to the 914 guys and gals for advice.

I'm 17 and can't afford to buy a halfway decent 914 at today's prices. The unicorn deals are getting harder to find as we speak.

(That's why I'm looking at 924's in addition to 914's)

What do you all think?

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post Aug 10 2020, 07:06 AM
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PLEASE don't take this the wrong way.
Buy a different car. One that you can drive and enjoy now and not spend 5 years and 10 grand restoring. Wait until you are a little older, out of school, and have dependable income to start tearing into old cars. There is a lot of fun to be had with more modern cars that are a good bit cheaper and a LOT more reliable and have things like decent audio and air conditioning.

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QUOTE(VaccaRabite @ Aug 10 2020, 05:06 AM) *

PLEASE don't take this the wrong way.
Buy a different car. One that you can drive and enjoy now and not spend 5 years and 10 grand restoring. Wait until you are a little older, out of school, and have dependable income to start tearing into old cars. There is a lot of fun to be had with more modern cars that are a good bit cheaper and a LOT more reliable and have things like decent audio and air conditioning.

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This is sound advice, having gone down a similar path with 914s in the 90s I can attest to there being zero logic in owning a fixer upper Porsche as a teenager, at least not as your daily driver like I did.

BUT

That being said there really is no point in your life where owning a Porsche will be the logical/responsible choice. Zero, nada, never, at no point will owning a Porsche make sense. You do it because you love it and if it is within your means and its what you want to be doing, go for it, enjoy your life the way you want to.

Dont waste your time with a Boxter, they are soulless hot garbage.

Back to your original question though, I actually own an 80 924 Turbo that i purchased not running a few years back so I have some experience in this department.

So some thoughts:
Be glad its not a turbo. Seriously i think 931s are probably the most insane Porsche to attempt to own for reasons i wont get into here because you wont have to worry about them.

These are relatively simple cars to work on but mostly like you will have to do everything yourself as you will be hard pressed to find a mechanic that knows these cars (or knows these cars and is still willing to work on them)

The used parts market and network of support for these cars is FAR less (practically non existent) than with 914s or 944s as you have seen. 924s are the true unloved Porsche. That being said you will have a VERY unique car. Seriously, other than my own, I have NEVER seen another non "S" 924 on the road... like ever. I have seen people show up to meets in 959s and Carerra GTs, never seen a 924.

Probably even more so than 914s, 924s were severely neglected by their owners so expect to go through literally everything. Starting with the timing belt (which is stupid cheap and simple on this car compared to a 944) and the entire fuel injection system (old gas really likes to gum up mechanical injection) I believe there is a post on the 924 board about resurrecting one, but out of the gate budget on at least having to buy a fuel pump, fuel accumulator accumulator, possibly injectors, in addition to the timing belt and all the normal tune up stuff.

Are you happy with the cosmetic condition of the car? Speaking from experience here, unless you are capable of doing this yourself, decent paint/body work on the car is usually out of reach for most younger people so expect the car is going to look more or less the same for a long time.

My biggest concern would be the mouse situation. Thankfully the mechanical injection doesn't have much wiring to chew up, but that doesn't mean that they cant cause crazy damage to the car still. The electrical systems in these cars had a lot of issues to begin with, adding mouse damage on top of that might drive you insane. Get a REAL good feel for where they have been before going any further.

Negotiate the price down. Don't be afraid to low ball the crap out of him, and don't be afraid to walk away. I promise no one is beating his door down to buy these cars. When I picked up my 924 the only reason I even went and looked at it was because it was a Porsche for sale within walking distance of my house. He was asking $1500 for the car. I didn't really have an intention to buy a 924 but given he took the time to show me the car i figured I would at least drop some offer. Jump to 10 minutes later and im pushing my $600 Turbo Porsche home. Point is, get it at a price that makes good sense to you and dont be afraid to ask. I think that was my biggest mistake buying my first Porsche as a teenager, getting to excited about it and just buying what was being sold. Slow down, take your time, shop around, get familiar with what is out there. Maybe work on the seller a bit, he has basically yard art at the moment and you are an excited kid(short on funds) wanting to bring them back to life, use that to your advantage.

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QUOTE(JamesM @ Aug 11 2020, 01:37 AM) *

Dont waste your time with a Boxter, they are soulless hot garbage.


I'd have to seriously disagree. Mine is more fun than most of the Porsches I've owned (including three 944s) and I track it also

OP - check the forums on rennlist.com and pelicanparts.com. they both get a lot of 924/944 traffic
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Ace Le Count   HELP! Is there anyone who knows 924's better than I do?   Aug 10 2020, 12:27 AM
Ace Le Count   RE: HELP! Is there anyone who knows 924's better than I do?   Aug 10 2020, 12:30 AM
Ace Le Count   RE: HELP! Is there anyone who knows 924's better than I do?   Aug 10 2020, 12:44 AM
Ace Le Count   RE: HELP! Is there anyone who knows 924's better than I do?   Aug 10 2020, 12:45 AM
Ace Le Count   It won't be my only car. I usually drive one o...   Aug 10 2020, 05:44 PM
sixnotfour   look under the seats,,, I have one,, http://www.92...   Aug 10 2020, 02:49 AM
Jett   look under the seats,,, I have one,, http://www.9...   Aug 10 2020, 08:54 AM
sixnotfour   [quote name='sixnotfour' post='2841494' date='Aug...   Aug 10 2020, 09:37 AM
Jett   [quote name='sixnotfour' post='2841494' date='Au...   Aug 10 2020, 12:13 PM
Ace Le Count   look under the seats,,, I have one,, http://www.9...   Aug 10 2020, 05:37 PM
billh1963   Are you wanting a car to drive or a long and expen...   Aug 10 2020, 06:46 AM
VaccaRabite   PLEASE don't take this the wrong way. Buy a di...   Aug 10 2020, 07:06 AM
mepstein   PLEASE don't take this the wrong way. Buy a d...   Aug 10 2020, 08:40 AM
ctc911ctc   PLEASE don't take this the wrong way. Buy a d...   Aug 10 2020, 03:13 PM
JamesM   PLEASE don't take this the wrong way. Buy a d...   Aug 11 2020, 12:37 AM
jmitro   Dont waste your time with a Boxter, they are soul...   Aug 11 2020, 06:05 AM
JamesM   Dont waste your time with a Boxter, they are sou...   Aug 11 2020, 09:18 AM
BillJ   if you must have a porsche at 17 (lucky kid) then ...   Aug 10 2020, 08:31 AM
Mark Henry   My teenager has a '82 Audi Coupe ( any '81...   Aug 10 2020, 08:51 AM
Jett   Agree with everyone, the cheapest Porsche will be ...   Aug 10 2020, 08:52 AM
Ace Le Count   Thanks for all the replies! I love being well-...   Aug 10 2020, 10:49 AM
Tdskip   Even 928's are getting very expensive. Corre...   Aug 10 2020, 01:32 PM
Dion   Prolly in the minority here, if you enjoy a challe...   Aug 10 2020, 12:26 PM
mbseto   I suppose I'm in the minority too. I often wi...   Aug 10 2020, 01:20 PM
mb911   I say buy it and learn. $1500 is nothing for ...   Aug 10 2020, 01:31 PM
Jonathan Livesay   I say buy it and learn. $1500 is nothing for...   Aug 10 2020, 01:46 PM
jd74914   I say buy it and learn. $1500 is nothing for...   Aug 10 2020, 01:57 PM
KELTY360   Okay fellow Porsche enthusiasts, I've recentl...   Aug 10 2020, 02:44 PM
Ace Le Count   Okay fellow Porsche enthusiasts, I've recent...   Aug 10 2020, 05:42 PM
AZBanks   There is no such thing as a cheap Porsche!...   Aug 10 2020, 02:59 PM
Tdskip   One lesson you learn, usually the hard way, is tha...   Aug 10 2020, 05:46 PM
KELTY360   One lesson you learn, usually the hard way, is th...   Aug 10 2020, 08:18 PM
garrettlee2   I have a 924 martini it’s slow but drives much b...   Aug 10 2020, 08:17 PM
Ace Le Count   I have a 924 martini it’s slow but drives much ...   Aug 10 2020, 10:42 PM
Ace Le Count   Thanks everyone. It's great having you. I...   Aug 10 2020, 10:40 PM
BuddyV   I have a 1988 Special Edition.... and I'm warn...   Aug 10 2020, 11:39 PM
JamesM   I have a 1988 Special Edition.... and I'm war...   Aug 11 2020, 12:47 AM
Jett   I have a 1988 Special Edition.... and I'm war...   Aug 11 2020, 08:11 AM
AZBanks   I had an 86 944 Turbo. A friend and I rebuilt and...   Aug 11 2020, 12:02 AM
dt4   I have just bought a 2.0 N/A over here as my next ...   Aug 11 2020, 02:32 AM
Ace Le Count   What are some of the most crucial things to look o...   Aug 11 2020, 10:43 PM
Tdskip   What are some of the most crucial things to look ...   Aug 12 2020, 04:52 PM
DblDog   There’s a Brumos 924S for sale over at the Pelic...   Aug 12 2020, 06:12 AM
Front yard mechanic   Buy them you can always stuff in a nice LS :hugme:   Aug 12 2020, 07:15 AM
Johny Blackstain   I don't like that's it's a Martini edi...   Aug 12 2020, 07:34 AM
Ace Le Count   I got some more photos... Any advice?   Aug 15 2020, 05:35 PM
mepstein   I got some more photos... Any advice? Run away.   Aug 15 2020, 05:48 PM
Ace Le Count   RE: HELP! Is there anyone who knows 924's better than I do?   Aug 15 2020, 05:36 PM
Ace Le Count   RE: HELP! Is there anyone who knows 924's better than I do?   Aug 15 2020, 05:38 PM
Ace Le Count   RE: HELP! Is there anyone who knows 924's better than I do?   Aug 15 2020, 05:39 PM
Tdskip   As Keith Martin is fond of saying rare doesn’t a...   Aug 15 2020, 05:49 PM
garrettlee2   It has the seats but no plaque? It’s a non inter...   Aug 15 2020, 10:50 PM
Ace Le Count   What should I haggle him down to? What is the most...   Sep 19 2020, 07:45 PM
ClayPerrine   I want to chime in on this thread. I would not ...   Sep 20 2020, 07:08 AM
horizontally-opposed   I want to chime in on this thread. I would not...   Sep 20 2020, 12:10 PM
73-914   :agree:   Sep 20 2020, 07:27 AM
mepstein   Or buy the 924, put it in your garage and you can ...   Sep 20 2020, 01:04 PM
Ace Le Count   Or buy the 924, put it in your garage and you can...   Sep 20 2020, 07:27 PM
Mueller   Or buy the 924, put it in your garage and you ca...   Sep 20 2020, 07:45 PM
Ace Le Count   Are 986s difficult for the home mechanic to work o...   Sep 20 2020, 01:19 PM
mb911   Are 986s difficult for the home mechanic to work ...   Sep 20 2020, 01:20 PM
Mueller   Are 986s difficult for the home mechanic to work ...   Sep 20 2020, 02:09 PM
horizontally-opposed   Not to dissuade you from the M96 flat six, but an ...   Sep 20 2020, 02:27 PM
ri914   I would buy them and part them out. There should b...   Sep 20 2020, 08:19 PM
mepstein   I would buy them and part them out. There should ...   Sep 20 2020, 08:34 PM
sixnotfour   https://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/d/sou...7196...   Sep 20 2020, 08:43 PM
Mueller   https://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/d/sou...719...   Sep 20 2020, 09:01 PM
pete000   I always like the Martini 924. I remember seeing t...   Sep 20 2020, 10:23 PM


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