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| mburkhart |
Sep 8 2020, 08:44 AM
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So I was out for a cruise around the neighborhood the other day and things were going great until the brake pedal went to the floor. I was able to pump it a few times and restore pressure and crawled home in a low gear. Each time I used the brakes the pedal would go to the floor until I pumped it a few times. Scary!
Once home I looked under the car and inspected the soft lines at each caliper but they looked fine and no leaks. The brake fluid reservoir is still full. I'm not sure where the problem is. What should I be looking for? |
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| mepstein |
Sep 8 2020, 08:47 AM
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Look for fluid under the pedal assembly in the car. |
| fiacra |
Sep 8 2020, 10:13 AM
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Master cylinder Look for fluid under the pedal assembly in the car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) If you are not finding any obvious failure at any of the other point in the system then almost certainly a seal in your MC has failed. This is consistent with a sudden brake failure. In my experience a slow buildup of condensation will cause more gradual symptoms, such as a progressively worsening spongy feel to the brake pedal. As Phil pointed out you may not see any leaking of the MC with an internal failure, but you also might find fluid around the pedal assembly. Brake fluid is nasty stuff and it was astute of @brant to recommend refurbishing the pedal assembly if it has become fouled with brake fluid. Because it's easy for me to spend your money, I also recommend you get a Motive pressure bleeder. You've already seen Ian's @iankarr video on replacing the MC and he also has one on bleeding the brakes with the Motive. You need to order the one that comes with the European adaptor (0100 I believe). This is also one of my least favorite jobs as it does require some contortion to get things hooked up and I HATE working with brake fluid. If it has been a while it's also a good time to replace all of the rubber hoses and fully flush the system. If you didn't already know it, you've just discovered how important your brakes are to your safety and this is one of those jobs that you just have to do before it becomes a problem. As you can see a failure of one component of the braking system should lead you to consider refurbishing the whole system. Again, easy for me to spend your money AND time! Wear gloves, safety glasses, and keep lots of rags handy. Glad you made it home safely!!!! |
mburkhart No brakes! Sep 8 2020, 08:44 AM
DRPHIL914
Master cylinder
Look for fluid under the pedal a... Sep 8 2020, 08:57 AM

mburkhart I haven't had time to lift the car up to be ab... Sep 8 2020, 09:03 AM

DRPHIL914
I haven't had time to lift the car up to be a... Sep 8 2020, 11:19 AM

mburkhart What are folks thoughts on the original 17mm vs 19... Sep 8 2020, 02:05 PM

ClayPerrine
What are folks thoughts on the original 17mm vs 1... Sep 8 2020, 05:33 PM

dcheek
What are folks thoughts on the original 17mm vs 1... Sep 9 2020, 09:00 AM
brant if the MC leaked on the pedals
make sure you rebui... Sep 8 2020, 09:14 AM
solex When was the last time you replaced your brake flu... Sep 8 2020, 09:32 AM
76-914 RE; the non-easy install MC version; You can get a... Sep 8 2020, 02:57 PM
mepstein Im pretty sure I have the 19mm easy install versio... Sep 8 2020, 05:47 PM
Tdskip Check me on this - the only difference between reg... Sep 9 2020, 06:50 AM
mepstein
Check me on this - the only difference between re... Sep 9 2020, 07:38 AM
DRPHIL914
Check me on this - the only difference between r... Sep 9 2020, 08:32 AM
Optimusglen When I did mine I installed on a bench, just the l... Sep 9 2020, 08:41 AM
mepstein Never forget the washers. They are 100% mandatory.... Sep 9 2020, 08:55 AM
billh1963 I'll throw out another possibility....
One da... Sep 9 2020, 09:02 AM
mburkhart
I'll throw out another possibility....
One d... Sep 9 2020, 09:39 AM

VaccaRabite
I'll throw out another possibility....
Anyw... Sep 9 2020, 09:46 AM
stugray
I'll throw out another possibility....
One d... Sep 13 2020, 10:29 AM
VaccaRabite The difference between the 17mm and the 19mm is on... Sep 9 2020, 09:35 AM
mepstein Did you pull the carpet and the pedal plywood and ... Sep 9 2020, 10:36 AM
mburkhart
Did you pull the carpet and the pedal plywood and... Sep 9 2020, 11:51 AM
mepstein
Did you pull the carpet and the pedal plywood an... Sep 9 2020, 12:33 PM
Craigers17 I did this a few months ago. I used this advice b... Sep 9 2020, 01:47 PM
mburkhart Well it looks like the caliper is the culprit. Br... Sep 12 2020, 02:57 PM
bdstone914 @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu... Sep 12 2020, 06:50 PM
stugray
@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?show... Sep 13 2020, 10:32 AM
Mikey914 I know we are making more now and may be able to l... Sep 12 2020, 09:49 PM
porschetub As far as failure. If there are not any apparent l... Sep 13 2020, 01:56 PM
sixnotfour
Old brake fluid increases the diagnoses.. Sep 13 2020, 12:52 PM![]() ![]() |
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