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> No brakes!, Brake pedal went to the floor
mburkhart
post Sep 8 2020, 08:44 AM
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So I was out for a cruise around the neighborhood the other day and things were going great until the brake pedal went to the floor. I was able to pump it a few times and restore pressure and crawled home in a low gear. Each time I used the brakes the pedal would go to the floor until I pumped it a few times. Scary!

Once home I looked under the car and inspected the soft lines at each caliper but they looked fine and no leaks. The brake fluid reservoir is still full. I'm not sure where the problem is.

What should I be looking for?
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post Sep 9 2020, 01:47 PM
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I did this a few months ago. I used this advice by McMark from another post:

1. Pop the throttle pedal off of the pushrod, so it can be pulled towards the rear of the car.
2. Depress the clutch pedal about 1/3 to 1/2 of the way down.
3. Route the board over both the clutch pedal and the brake pedal in the same motion (or close enough)

It takes awhile to figure out. But once you've done it a few times the 'right' way it becomes pretty easy. ...end quote

...hope this helps...worked for me.
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post Sep 12 2020, 02:57 PM
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Well it looks like the caliper is the culprit. Brake pressure felt normal when I backed the car out of the garage. I pulled both front tires and found the driver side caliper was seized and the pads were tight against the rotor like billh1963 described.

I think I'm going to replace both front calipers/pads/soft lines. I will also take a look at the rear calipers and make sure they're still functioning correctly.
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post Sep 12 2020, 06:50 PM
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@mburkhart
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Well it looks like the caliper is the culprit. Brake pressure felt normal when I backed the car out of the garage. I pulled both front tires and found the driver side caliper was seized and the pads were tight against the rotor like billh1963 described.

I think I'm going to replace both front calipers/pads/soft lines. I will also take a look at the rear calipers and make sure they're still functioning correctly.
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A siezed caliper would not explain the pedal going to the floor. I say it is still the master if no other external leak can be found.
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post Sep 13 2020, 10:32 AM
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[quote name='bdstone914' date='Sep 12 2020, 06:50 PM' post='2850730']
@mburkhart
post='2850680' date='Sep 12 2020, 01:57 PM']
Well it looks like the caliper is the culprit. Brake pressure felt normal when I backed the car out of the garage. I pulled both front tires and found the driver side caliper was seized and the pads were tight against the rotor like billh1963 described.

I think I'm going to replace both front calipers/pads/soft lines. I will also take a look at the rear calipers and make sure they're still functioning correctly.
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A siezed caliper would not explain the pedal going to the floor. I say it is still the master if no other external leak can be found.
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"A siezed caliper would not explain the pedal going to the floor. "

Sorry, but this is false.
A dragging caliper will overheat that caliper and boil the brake fluid creating a large "air" bubble in the lines.

It has happened to me more than once.

This is usually not the caliper's fault, but the flex lies to the caliper.
They "swell" internally blocking flow and not letting the caliper release.
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mburkhart   No brakes!   Sep 8 2020, 08:44 AM
mepstein   Master cylinder Look for fluid under the pedal as...   Sep 8 2020, 08:47 AM
DRPHIL914   Master cylinder Look for fluid under the pedal a...   Sep 8 2020, 08:57 AM
mburkhart   I haven't had time to lift the car up to be ab...   Sep 8 2020, 09:03 AM
DRPHIL914   I haven't had time to lift the car up to be a...   Sep 8 2020, 11:19 AM
mburkhart   What are folks thoughts on the original 17mm vs 19...   Sep 8 2020, 02:05 PM
ClayPerrine   What are folks thoughts on the original 17mm vs 1...   Sep 8 2020, 05:33 PM
dcheek   What are folks thoughts on the original 17mm vs 1...   Sep 9 2020, 09:00 AM
fiacra   Master cylinder Look for fluid under the pedal a...   Sep 8 2020, 10:13 AM
brant   if the MC leaked on the pedals make sure you rebui...   Sep 8 2020, 09:14 AM
solex   When was the last time you replaced your brake flu...   Sep 8 2020, 09:32 AM
76-914   RE; the non-easy install MC version; You can get a...   Sep 8 2020, 02:57 PM
mepstein   Im pretty sure I have the 19mm easy install versio...   Sep 8 2020, 05:47 PM
Tdskip   Check me on this - the only difference between reg...   Sep 9 2020, 06:50 AM
mepstein   Check me on this - the only difference between re...   Sep 9 2020, 07:38 AM
DRPHIL914   Check me on this - the only difference between r...   Sep 9 2020, 08:32 AM
Optimusglen   When I did mine I installed on a bench, just the l...   Sep 9 2020, 08:41 AM
mepstein   Never forget the washers. They are 100% mandatory....   Sep 9 2020, 08:55 AM
billh1963   I'll throw out another possibility.... One da...   Sep 9 2020, 09:02 AM
mburkhart   I'll throw out another possibility.... One d...   Sep 9 2020, 09:39 AM
VaccaRabite   I'll throw out another possibility.... Anyw...   Sep 9 2020, 09:46 AM
stugray   I'll throw out another possibility.... One d...   Sep 13 2020, 10:29 AM
VaccaRabite   The difference between the 17mm and the 19mm is on...   Sep 9 2020, 09:35 AM
mepstein   Did you pull the carpet and the pedal plywood and ...   Sep 9 2020, 10:36 AM
mburkhart   Did you pull the carpet and the pedal plywood and...   Sep 9 2020, 11:51 AM
mepstein   Did you pull the carpet and the pedal plywood an...   Sep 9 2020, 12:33 PM
Craigers17   I did this a few months ago. I used this advice b...   Sep 9 2020, 01:47 PM
mburkhart   Well it looks like the caliper is the culprit. Br...   Sep 12 2020, 02:57 PM
bdstone914   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu...   Sep 12 2020, 06:50 PM
stugray   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?show...   Sep 13 2020, 10:32 AM
Mikey914   I know we are making more now and may be able to l...   Sep 12 2020, 09:49 PM
porschetub   As far as failure. If there are not any apparent l...   Sep 13 2020, 01:56 PM
sixnotfour   Old brake fluid increases the diagnoses..   Sep 13 2020, 12:52 PM


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