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> 1975 1.8 on twin carbs running poorly
dt4
post Oct 4 2020, 09:24 AM
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My car is now registered over in the UK so I can enjoy it at long last, I took it out today for the first time other than the short drive to the MOT centre last month

It drove OK to a point but I noticed it was very slow to respond once in 4th gear, it felt very flat and not at all keen to pick up speed
If I shifted from 3rd to 4th at around 30mph / 3500rpm it was sluggish and a just over 30mph in 4th it felt like it was in the wrong gear and needed to down shift back to 3rd

on the hills it soon ran out of grunt and I was having to down shift from 4th to 3rd and even 2nd to get it to rev again and build speed
Setting off on a hill I had to really increase revs in 1st before shifting into 2nd otherwise it would bog down and feel like it was stalling

thoughts:
fuel?
timing?
other?

thank you
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post Oct 5 2020, 08:44 AM
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That helps. Judging by that intake to carb gasket, those carbs have been on a long time. As mentioned, lots of possibilities. Not relevant, but where does that black wire on the + terminal go to? The line coming off the distr vacuum canister too.
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post Oct 6 2020, 09:49 AM
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QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Oct 5 2020, 03:44 PM) *

That helps. Judging by that intake to carb gasket, those carbs have been on a long time. As mentioned, lots of possibilities. Not relevant, but where does that black wire on the + terminal go to? The line coming off the distr vacuum canister too.

The black wire from the +ve terminal goes to the starter motor
The rest of the set up looks like this
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post Oct 6 2020, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE(dt4 @ Oct 6 2020, 08:49 AM) *

QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Oct 5 2020, 03:44 PM) *

That helps. Judging by that intake to carb gasket, those carbs have been on a long time. As mentioned, lots of possibilities. Not relevant, but where does that black wire on the + terminal go to? The line coming off the distr vacuum canister too.

The black wire from the +ve terminal goes to the starter motor
The rest of the set up looks like this
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Looking at the direction the plug wires follow from the distributor, I believe you have them out of the proper order(?). The picture shows the two spark plug wires on the driver side (next to each other) of the distributor go to the driver side cylinders, similarly the two spark plug wires (also next to each other) on the passenger side go to the passenger side cylinders. This seems rationally wrong to me where the driver side cylinders fire one after the other, similarly passenger side firing one after the other. Check your firing order and attach spark plug wires accordingly. Hope this helps.
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post Oct 7 2020, 12:37 AM
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QUOTE(914Toy @ Oct 6 2020, 11:32 PM) *

QUOTE(dt4 @ Oct 6 2020, 08:49 AM) *

QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Oct 5 2020, 03:44 PM) *

That helps. Judging by that intake to carb gasket, those carbs have been on a long time. As mentioned, lots of possibilities. Not relevant, but where does that black wire on the + terminal go to? The line coming off the distr vacuum canister too.

The black wire from the +ve terminal goes to the starter motor
The rest of the set up looks like this
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Looking at the direction the plug wires follow from the distributor, I believe you have them out of the proper order(?). The picture shows the two spark plug wires on the driver side (next to each other) of the distributor go to the driver side cylinders, similarly the two spark plug wires (also next to each other) on the passenger side go to the passenger side cylinders. This seems rationally wrong to me where the driver side cylinders fire one after the other, similarly passenger side firing one after the other. Check your firing order and attach spark plug wires accordingly. Hope this helps.

Would it run if that was the case?
Does any one have a picture of the correct positioning on the distributor top please?
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dt4   1975 1.8 on twin carbs running poorly   Oct 4 2020, 09:24 AM
Bleyseng   So many possibilities but, lube the dizzy advance ...   Oct 4 2020, 09:58 AM
dt4   So many possibilities but, lube the dizzy advance...   Oct 4 2020, 10:45 AM
Ansbacher   Are the carbs jetted correctly? Possibly your mai...   Oct 4 2020, 10:41 AM
dt4   Are the carbs jetted correctly? Possibly your ma...   Oct 4 2020, 10:43 AM
Tdskip   I know it drove OK for Dylan when it was here, but...   Oct 4 2020, 10:46 AM
rhodyguy   IDF carbs? Size? The interior of that distr is pre...   Oct 4 2020, 04:10 PM
dt4   IDF carbs? Size? The interior of that distr is pr...   Oct 5 2020, 12:29 AM
dt4   ps No idea on the carb type / size etc... I'll...   Oct 5 2020, 12:30 AM
Tdskip   Carbs will have a stamping, which can be hard to s...   Oct 5 2020, 06:14 AM
dt4   Pictures on the carbs   Oct 5 2020, 08:15 AM
rhodyguy   That helps. Judging by that intake to carb gasket,...   Oct 5 2020, 08:44 AM
dt4   That helps. Judging by that intake to carb gasket...   Oct 6 2020, 09:49 AM
914Toy   [quote name='rhodyguy' post='2856780' date='Oct 5...   Oct 6 2020, 04:32 PM
dt4   [quote name='rhodyguy' post='2856780' date='Oct ...   Oct 7 2020, 12:37 AM
ndfrigi   [quote name='914Toy' post='2857114' date='Oct 6 2...   Oct 7 2020, 02:10 AM
Tdskip   You need to be very careful about not changing mul...   Oct 5 2020, 08:59 AM
rhodyguy   NOT ether. Spraying them down will compound the me...   Oct 5 2020, 09:17 AM
Tdskip   NOT ether. Spraying them down will compound the m...   Oct 5 2020, 09:20 AM
Rob-O   IDF carbs? Size? The interior of that distr is p...   Oct 5 2020, 10:58 AM
dt4   thanks for the input and suggestions chaps, I...   Oct 5 2020, 01:29 PM
porschetub   thanks for the input and suggestions chaps, I...   Oct 5 2020, 03:53 PM
ejm   If I shifted from 3rd to 4th at around 30mph / 35...   Oct 5 2020, 04:43 PM
Gint   Sounds retarded (timing) to me. That's easy t...   Oct 6 2020, 04:11 PM
porschetub   Sounds retarded (timing) to me. That's easy ...   Oct 6 2020, 09:36 PM
Gint   No, that's right if I'm not mistaken. 143...   Oct 6 2020, 04:34 PM
914Toy   No, that's right if I'm not mistaken. 14...   Oct 6 2020, 07:22 PM
Gint   I didn't catch that it was electronic. I have...   Oct 6 2020, 10:05 PM
dt4   I haven't disturbed anything since the car arr...   Oct 7 2020, 05:57 AM
Gint   Your firing order is correct based on the picture ...   Oct 7 2020, 06:32 AM
dt4   Your firing order is correct based on the picture...   Oct 7 2020, 06:54 AM
Gint   I corrected by statement about #1 position in my l...   Oct 7 2020, 07:11 AM
ndfrigi   Have you tried cleaning your dizzy like what other...   Oct 7 2020, 07:16 AM
dt4   thanks @Gint and [b]@[url=http://www.914world.c...   Oct 7 2020, 07:41 AM
rhodyguy   What does the inside of the distr cap look like? T...   Oct 7 2020, 08:03 AM
dt4   What does the inside of the distr cap look like? ...   Oct 7 2020, 10:58 AM
ndfrigi   What does the inside of the distr cap look like?...   Oct 7 2020, 11:36 AM
ndfrigi   check this video also so It can help you if you wi...   Oct 7 2020, 02:55 PM
dt4   As the weather has been reasonable (dry) this week...   Oct 11 2020, 07:10 AM
Gint   Carbs without a choke are always going to be a lit...   Oct 11 2020, 07:52 AM


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