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| Tdskip |
Oct 5 2020, 07:55 AM
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So it certainly appears if one uses BAT as a reference point that weapons grade 914/6 builds have been fully excepted as “worthy” the Porsche market.
Nearly all of those builds, however, have been high dollar endeavors, and while highly impressive machines many of them seem a bit compromised for actual road use or touring. Any thoughts on where 3.0 and 3.2 L builds that are not taken to the max now trade? |
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| pencap914 |
Oct 9 2020, 10:53 AM
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I'm just starting my 914/6 conversion, and needless to say it's been intimidating seeing these "weapons grade" builds that cost several times my annual salary. I certainly respect these builds, I'm sure a 914 with a hotrod 3.8 "big block" is one hell of a ride.
Regardless of cost, I think I would rather have a "small block" 914. If I wanted a muscle car, I would have gotten a Corvette, or (insert other Detroit iron here). Big block weapons grade 914's and more modest builds seems to be a similar dispute as the 427ci vs 289ci engine in the Shelby Cobra. Both equally respectable, the 427 Cobras seem to get a lot more attention and certainly sound and look more impressive. The 427s are more common, and seem to fetch more coin in a sale. However, I get more excited when I see a 289 Cobra. I've never driven either one, but I would imagine the lighter weight and more tame engine would make it more confidence inspiring to drive in a winding canyon or track. Its interesting to me to see how these big block weapons grade builds sell for multi x that of a more modest build (See the recent 2.7L 914 that sold for less than 30k on BAT.) I would build a hot rod 4cyl for my 914, but they just don't make the same noise as the 6. I originally wanted to find a 2.2 - 2.4 engine for my build, and I purchased a long block 2.4 (err, short block... engine doesn't turn over... long story) but ended up finding a 2.7l engine for a decent price since they're more common. I do plan on installing steel fenders and 5-lug conversion, because that was always the dream of mine since high school, and I simply have not outgrown that. I wouldn't call this build of mine a "weapons grade" but I also wouldn't call it a stock 914/6 replica. It falls somewhere in the middle of the spectrum. Call it, a "spicy consumer grade(?)" build. I chose the lowly profession of Civil Engineer, which means I have to keep a close eye on my budget. If I do a lot of the labor myself, and be patient about sourcing used parts for a decent price, I think I could get by with a car that will cost me $30-$35k. I certainly don't think it would be worth building it then trying to sell it off for a profit. I would be selling my time for free. |
Tdskip Weapons grade versus more subtle 914/6 builds Oct 5 2020, 07:55 AM
Racer BAT is an outlier of many things.. Their writing a... Oct 5 2020, 08:15 AM
mepstein
BAT is an outlier of many things.. Their writing ... Oct 5 2020, 09:28 AM
porschetub
[quote name='Racer' post='2856777' date='Oct 5 20... Oct 5 2020, 09:52 PM
Tdskip Thanks for the thoughtful and insightful reply. Th... Oct 5 2020, 09:04 AM
Tdskip Is the take away from that one sale that you need ... Oct 5 2020, 09:29 AM
mepstein
Is the take away from that one sale that you need... Oct 5 2020, 11:20 AM
horizontally-opposed
Is the take away from that one sale that you need... Oct 5 2020, 02:58 PM
VaccaRabite UNless you are building to sell, build the car you... Oct 5 2020, 09:45 AM
Tdskip
UNless you are building to sell, build the car yo... Oct 5 2020, 09:47 AM
eric9144 I think it's interesting how few of the ... Oct 5 2020, 11:41 AM
Cairo94507 We have all seen some really well done conversion ... Oct 5 2020, 01:22 PM
horizontally-opposed Fwiw, I have driven a lot of weapons-grade 914s, b... Oct 5 2020, 03:00 PM
Tdskip @horizontally-opposed - thanks for the thoughtful... Oct 5 2020, 03:21 PM
eric9144
Sold for $52k + fees for beautifully present... Oct 5 2020, 03:57 PM
Tdskip @mesptein - do your customers ever ask for a ... Oct 5 2020, 04:59 PM
mepstein
@mesptein - do your customers ever ask for a ... Oct 6 2020, 05:50 AM
Tdskip
@mesptein - do your customers ever ask for a ... Oct 6 2020, 05:58 AM
horizontally-opposed
@mesptein - do your customers ever ask for a ... Oct 6 2020, 10:23 AM
Coondog While both those cars are top notch, Eric scored t... Oct 6 2020, 07:24 AM
mepstein
While both those cars are top notch, Eric scored ... Oct 6 2020, 07:38 AM
horizontally-opposed
While both those cars are top notch, Eric scored ... Oct 6 2020, 09:43 AM
ClayPerrine As the builder of a "Weapons Grade" conv... Oct 6 2020, 09:44 AM
eric9144
While both those cars are top notch, Eric scored... Oct 6 2020, 09:48 AM
horizontally-opposed
[quote name='horizontally-opposed' post='285... Oct 6 2020, 09:58 AM
eric9144
Nearly all of those builds, however, have been hi... Oct 6 2020, 10:25 AM
horizontally-opposed
On the "touring use" side of things..... Oct 6 2020, 10:58 AM
ClayPerrine
Ironically it has an audiophile stereo installat... Oct 6 2020, 11:47 AM
Cairo94507 Hi @eric9144 - I understand about engine noise i... Oct 6 2020, 10:54 AM
Mueller At certain price points potential buyers expect a ... Oct 6 2020, 11:24 AM
Mark Henry Do you plan to drive it, show it or flip it?
My 3... Oct 6 2020, 11:35 AM
Cairo94507 I installed a period correct Blaupunkt with the st... Oct 6 2020, 12:48 PM
Coondog I settled my long drive noise issues with two opti... Oct 6 2020, 01:04 PM
Cairo94507 Hi Greg - Yeah, I wear soft ear plugs already. :... Oct 6 2020, 01:35 PM
VegasRacer The only way to come out on top financially is to ... Oct 6 2020, 01:45 PM
Superhawk996 Watching with interest.
I may be the last build... Oct 6 2020, 02:01 PM
racer914
Watching with interest.
I may be the last buil... Oct 8 2020, 01:01 PM
eric9144
Watching with interest.
I may be the last buil... Oct 6 2020, 02:18 PM
Tdskip Great discussion gentlemen, really appreciate all ... Oct 6 2020, 03:37 PM
mepstein It should be easy to make a 3.2 build quiet and co... Oct 6 2020, 03:51 PM
john77 @eric9144 what a stunning car. I started flaring ... Oct 6 2020, 04:25 PM
Gint I'm putting a 2.7 with CIS in my /6. I always... Oct 6 2020, 05:05 PM
sixnotfour my first was a six...soooooooooooooo never really ... Oct 6 2020, 05:18 PM
RickS 3.0 with Webbers conversion, front oil cooler, rea... Oct 6 2020, 08:15 PM
john77 My car is pretty similar to yours, although with a... Oct 6 2020, 10:29 PM
Gint Ok, now that I've read the entire thread inste... Oct 6 2020, 09:53 PM
Tdskip It will be interesting to see some narrow body /6 ... Oct 7 2020, 07:36 AM
mepstein I don’t think there will be a mad rush to build ... Oct 7 2020, 09:13 AM
Tdskip Professionals know that, but there are a lot of ar... Oct 7 2020, 09:16 AM
Marv's3.6six I too have my weapons grade 3.6 hot rod, it was bu... Oct 7 2020, 10:27 AM
eric9144
Does the front valance have the cut out for the o... Oct 7 2020, 10:44 AM
Coondog I was running this one for a while but I wasn’t ... Oct 7 2020, 11:26 AM
slivel From track only car to street hotrod. I added an ... Oct 7 2020, 12:45 PM
cali914
From track only car to street hotrod. I added an... Oct 15 2020, 11:45 PM
Tdskip Nice builds gentlemen.
How much interior sound de... Oct 7 2020, 12:51 PM
Coondog
Nice builds gentlemen.
How much interior sound d... Oct 7 2020, 06:21 PM
Tdskip
Nice builds gentlemen.
How much interior sound ... Oct 7 2020, 06:36 PM
Gint
Took out back pad, installed dynamat and low pi... Oct 7 2020, 06:40 PM
john77 Thanks @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.p... Oct 7 2020, 01:02 PM
Coondog
Thanks @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.... Oct 7 2020, 06:14 PM
Coondog Patrick Motor Sports. Oct 7 2020, 08:25 PM
Gint Stocking item or build to order? Oct 7 2020, 09:00 PM
Coondog One off for my car. Leather imported from Italy. Oct 7 2020, 09:06 PM
Gint Very nice. I like those a lot.
Found your thread... Oct 7 2020, 09:08 PM
davehg I have one build under my belt, a 3.2, and another... Oct 8 2020, 12:38 AM
ClayPerrine
I sorta kinda don’t give a rats ass what puris... Oct 8 2020, 10:49 AM
horizontally-opposed
…it makes more fiscal sense to buy one that so... Oct 8 2020, 12:17 PM
Tdskip Was speaking with an engine builder recently, who... Oct 8 2020, 02:46 PM
Superhawk996
. . . and won't touch mag cases anymore—be... Oct 8 2020, 03:08 PM
horizontally-opposed
:lol4:
When you start talking about 6.0L+ ma... Oct 8 2020, 03:20 PM
Tdskip Thanks for the post and pictures Dave. Very cool.
... Oct 8 2020, 02:34 AM
eric9144
There is no way I will come out ahead on either o... Oct 8 2020, 09:42 AM
horizontally-opposed Anyway, to the OP's question, it is a question... Oct 8 2020, 03:26 PM
Tdskip An agreed to value policy is critical for anything... Oct 9 2020, 08:05 AM
horizontally-opposed
It does seem to me that homebrew, even if except... Oct 9 2020, 10:41 AM
gereed75 Mine is a hot rod driver quality original six. Ver... Oct 9 2020, 10:50 AM
JeffBowlsby I have looked the other way on this thread long en... Oct 9 2020, 11:08 AM
Tdskip
I have looked the other way on this thread long e... Oct 10 2020, 06:51 AM
mepstein Marty's car. Weapon of mass destruction. :hea... Oct 9 2020, 01:21 PM
Sway Bar
Marty's car. Weapon of mass destruction. :he... Oct 9 2020, 01:46 PM
Cairo94507 Well, if that phrase ever applied to a 914, it wou... Oct 9 2020, 02:10 PM
john77 The gold 2.9 twin plug on bringatrailer just sold ... Oct 9 2020, 03:32 PM
Mueller
The gold 2.9 twin plug on bringatrailer just sold... Oct 9 2020, 03:55 PM
Cairo94507 That sold for almost what I thought it would. I w... Oct 9 2020, 04:54 PM
john77 Yeah, it looks like a gorgeous build. Seems like a... Oct 9 2020, 05:31 PM
Tdskip Going back up for sale I bet, $125k plus aski... Oct 10 2020, 06:49 AM
Tdskip Here we go;
More subtle 914/6 on BAT Oct 10 2020, 08:41 AM
Tdskip One day left but still quite cheap as far as these... Oct 15 2020, 08:33 AM
horizontally-opposed
One day left but still quite cheap as far as thes... Oct 15 2020, 09:15 AM
horizontally-opposed
One day left but still quite cheap as far as thes... Oct 16 2020, 10:03 AM
horizontally-opposed To Jeff's earlier point, I appreciate him rais... Oct 15 2020, 12:00 PM
Tdskip I certainly did not intend to offend anyone by usi... Oct 15 2020, 12:01 PM
Cairo94507 I was not the least offended by the phrase. To me... Oct 15 2020, 12:28 PM
Tdskip I have to embarrassingly admit I’ve been watchin... Oct 16 2020, 01:04 PM
Tdskip $43,000 no sale.
Seems to me like it should ... Oct 16 2020, 04:50 PM
Mueller
$43,000 no sale.
Seems to me like it should... Oct 16 2020, 04:59 PM
Gint I had that in my head at $40k. It's a gr... Oct 16 2020, 04:58 PM
horizontally-opposed $43k no sale is an interesting data point for... Oct 17 2020, 10:30 AM
Gint $43k + fees = $45k. The best case scena... Oct 17 2020, 06:51 PM![]() ![]() |
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