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| johnpierre |
Jun 23 2020, 10:25 AM
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hello 914 community
so I was driving the other Sunday - nice drive with no traffic due to covid, doing 80 on the 405 heading south, for those of you that don't live in LA, that is in LA ;-) and then all of a sudden I just lost power. it sounded like I ran out of gas but that of course is impossible as the tank was 1/2 full. I have a 73, 1.7 fuel injected engine and I have never had this issue. I suppose I can tow the car to a garage but I thought I might put this out there in case this sounds familiar to anyone and I could try to troubleshoot the issue first. is there anything I can check rather easily to solve this? has this happened to anyone else under these conditions? I looked all around the top of the engine as best I could when it happened and I didn't see anything disconcerted or otherwise out of place - but then again I don't really know what I was looking for and it was hot so I really could feel around that much. -jp- |
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| GregAmy |
Oct 28 2020, 11:04 AM
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I'm still not clear if your pump is consistently running and you have fuel pressure? Have you tried jumping the fuel pump relay?
I'll reiterate that sudden stoppage on the highway is commonly related to electrical/wiring issues with the relay plate, its connectors, and terminals. |
| JamesM |
Oct 28 2020, 02:14 PM
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I'm still not clear if your pump is consistently running and you have fuel pressure? Have you tried jumping the fuel pump relay? I'll reiterate that sudden stoppage on the highway is commonly related to electrical/wiring issues with the relay plate, its connectors, and terminals. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) on all counts. Rather than guessing and replacing random parts in the hopes that the problem goes away though you need to actually diagnose what isnt working and then address that system. Absolutely would look at the fuel system. As previously stated issues with the relay/relay board are super common (I have had them with every 914 I have ever owned and that is a pretty large number at this point) however because its usually easier to check for spark do that first just to rule it out. So Step 1: hook up a timing light, crank the engine. Is it lighting up? No = Figure out why you dont have spark. Yes = Look at the fuel system next. Step 2: Do you have fuel pressure? Not hearing the pump at all is usually a give away that you dont, but hearing the pump run is not always an indicator that you do. Get a fuel pressure gauge and throw it on the fuel rail! No pressure + pump not running = something wrong with the pump or the electrical circuit/relay/relay board. No pressure + pump running = bad pump or obstruction in the fuel line Proper 29 PSI at the fuel rail when key is cycled/cranking = something other than the fuel pump system itself, start looking at d-jet Head temp sensor, MPS, etc (this is a d-jet car right?) Whatever you do stop guessing though. Its pretty easy to test what is and is not actually working on these cars. Once you have isolated where the failure is you can stop randomly replacing parts. |
johnpierre Just cut out on the Fwy Jun 23 2020, 10:25 AM
BeatNavy When you cycle the key to "on" position ... Jun 23 2020, 10:30 AM
DRPHIL914
When you cycle the key to "on" position... Jun 23 2020, 10:37 AM
ndfrigi Do you have pertronix on ur dizzy? if yes try to r... Jun 23 2020, 10:44 AM
fiacra Despite what the gauge says did you check the tank... Jun 23 2020, 11:00 AM
Frankvw if the spark is OK...Check fuel (as mentioned), if... Jun 23 2020, 11:06 AM
jd74914 I had this happen and it turned out my 3 port fue... Jun 23 2020, 11:52 AM
KELTY360 Fuel pump relay on the relay board.
I've had ... Jun 23 2020, 02:56 PM
GregAmy Similar experience to the above: verify solid term... Jun 23 2020, 07:40 PM
johnpierre hey there - thanks for all the help
here is what... Jun 23 2020, 09:40 PM
914_7T3
hey there - thanks for all the help
here is wha... Jun 23 2020, 10:53 PM
914_7T3 The dreaded double post! Jun 23 2020, 10:53 PM
GregAmy Given:
#1 im pretty sure the fuel pump is primin... Jun 24 2020, 09:56 AM
johnpierre the coil presumably... Jun 23 2020, 09:41 PM
johnpierre vacuum hose to nowhere Jun 23 2020, 09:42 PM
johnpierre this is where the vac hose begins Jun 23 2020, 09:43 PM
ndfrigi
this is where the vac hose begins
that is the ... Jun 24 2020, 01:28 AM
johnpierre so going with a faulty fuel pump - where is it loc... Jun 23 2020, 10:01 PM
KELTY360 Forget about the fuses. It's the fuel pump REL... Jun 23 2020, 10:17 PM
johnpierre
Forget about the fuses. It's the fuel pump RE... Jun 23 2020, 10:23 PM
johnpierre ok here is the update:
found the relay board - th... Jun 24 2020, 12:31 PM
mrholland2
ok here is the update:
found the relay board - t... Jun 24 2020, 04:42 PM
johnpierre so here is the update:
fuses arrived from pelican... Jun 25 2020, 08:26 PM
johnpierre old relays Jun 25 2020, 08:28 PM
johnpierre relay board with new relays installed Jun 25 2020, 08:29 PM
johnpierre coil / distributor cap area - looks to be ok right... Jun 25 2020, 08:31 PM
type2man Remove the intake and pour fuel into the throttle ... Jun 25 2020, 08:48 PM
johnpierre
Remove the intake and pour fuel into the throttle... Jun 25 2020, 08:53 PM
johnpierre
Remove the intake and pour fuel into the throttle... Jun 26 2020, 11:41 AM
rjames
This is concerning. I would check the all of the... Jun 26 2020, 03:10 PM
johnpierre
This is concerning. I would check the all of th... Jun 26 2020, 07:47 PM
euro911 Did you get the issue figured out yet? Aug 16 2020, 11:38 AM
rhodyguy Do you have spark? Easy way is hook up a timing li... Aug 16 2020, 01:54 PM
mankowski Intermittent loss of voltage to fuel pump could be... Aug 17 2020, 07:33 PM
johnpierre bump... Oct 28 2020, 10:27 AM
johnpierre ok everyone - it as been a few months - i just bee... Oct 28 2020, 10:38 AM
Tdskip
Rather than guessing and replacing random parts i... Oct 28 2020, 02:29 PM
euro911 JP, there's also a couple of fuses next to eac... Oct 28 2020, 12:54 PM
euro911 RE: Just cut out on the Fwy Oct 28 2020, 01:16 PM
jim_hoyland If a fuel pressure gauge is installed in-line, fue... Oct 28 2020, 02:33 PM
euro911 I sent JP a PM, offering to run up there to help d... Oct 28 2020, 04:20 PM
Tdskip
I sent JP a PM, offering to run up there to help ... Oct 28 2020, 06:24 PM
trick-e I didn’t read all of the responses, but I’m ju... Oct 28 2020, 09:14 PM
johnpierre ok so here is the latest with my drama:
#1 as I s... Dec 7 2020, 01:34 PM
johnpierre :bump: Dec 7 2020, 01:36 PM
rjames Replacing the fuel pump might fix it, and then it ... Dec 7 2020, 01:42 PM
johnpierre
Replacing the fuel pump might fix it, and then it... Dec 7 2020, 02:28 PM

914Toy
Replacing the fuel pump might fix it, and then i... Dec 7 2020, 02:41 PM

rjames
Replacing the fuel pump might fix it, and then i... Dec 7 2020, 02:58 PM
GregAmy
Have you checked the fuel pressure yet as others ... Dec 7 2020, 02:30 PM
rhodyguy Was the tank sock examined? Partially fouled, they... Dec 7 2020, 01:52 PM
sixnotfour Has your pump been updated or still have the 3 por... Dec 7 2020, 02:48 PM
euro911 JP, You can pick up a fairly inexpensive fuel pres... Dec 7 2020, 04:28 PM
76-914 https://members.rennlist.com/pbanders/FPChecklist_... Dec 7 2020, 05:37 PM
johnpierre
https://members.rennlist.com/pbanders/FPChecklist... Dec 9 2020, 12:06 PM
euro911 Try this link, JP ... https://members.rennlist.com... Dec 9 2020, 12:47 PM
jim_hoyland And, I had this happen, the fuel pump ground must ... Dec 9 2020, 07:17 PM![]() ![]() |
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