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JamesJ
post Dec 23 2020, 07:59 PM
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Hello All,

Has anyone driven or sat in a 914 with a Sebring seat from GTS Classics?

I have read several previous threads regarding these aftermarket seats. The owner, Stefan, told me that the Sebring is two notches above the stock 914 seat as far as support goes, with the LeMans being the first step up. From the looks of the two seats, the LeMans appears to offer mostly hip support, whereas the Sebring looks to offer both hip and torso support. I am not racing the car and I do want to keep the backpad. The Sebrings have a much sharper angle at the back of the seat than do the stock seats, so I am not expecting them to sit snug in the backpad recess, but I don't want them to look too out of place either. I imagine with the back of the seat at such an angle, my reach to the steering wheel will be a bit longer. I will be using my stock '74 shoulder belt, but Stefan recommended using a rear seat belt receptacle from a 911 to use in place of the stock 914 receptacle so that I can loop it through the hole that would be made in the seat, as in the photo below.
Any experience or thoughts on the driving feel of these seats or the way they look at the back/against the backpad would be appreciated.
Thanks!
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post Dec 26 2020, 11:35 PM
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Been down this road, with three pairs of seats.

Seating is extremely personal, but the stock seats seem to be extremely comfortable on long drives for most people. Always got a lot of comments about that, and from a wide variety of people/body types; the lack of negative comments were even more impressive…until the corners came up. Just as a number of passengers did, I wanted more support. I wish there had been a thread like this one back then. A lot of good inputs, and experiences shared.

I'll add two more:

1) GTS Classics "Le Mans" seats in vinyl/basketweave were my first move, and Stefan was great to deal with. Added heating elements, and also asked for basketweave on the sides of the lower cushion—an idea I had after seeing a similar treatment in a 908. Added a bit of dimensionality. What's great is GTS will do things like this. I was impressed with the workmanship of the seats for the price, their strap system for the lower cushion, and the way they fit into the stock 914 back pad. Unfortunately, they didn't offer the upper torso support I was after—though they did lock my rear end into the seat. I spent some extra money to "shrink" the 914-style headrests, which looked too big to me, but the bigger issue may have been personal: The way I sat in them left me uncomfortable after even medium distances. They weren't a match for me; I wondered if I should have done something more like an ST seat, though those Watkins Glen with Tartan have me wondering… (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

2) I decided to try Scheels after Russ @bullethead offered a very nice pair of Scheels when I was in Florida. Having sat in Scheels before, I knew they would offer the torso support I was after, and hoped they would be more comfortable for me on longer trips. Turns out, they're both—and they mount perfectly on the stock seat rails. They are a bit restrictive (I can't imagine they're fun for someone wider than me), and ingress/egress will be tricky for some, but I really like them. I'll use them for a while, and then have them restored in similar materials.

If at all possible, try to sit in the seats before you buy. Replicate the angle they'll be mounted at if you can, and bring a book/tablet/phone/etc and read for at least 30 minutes if you can. What I discovered: Seats might be the most important interface in a car. If they're good, you can drive all day. If they're bad (for you), you won't drive the car nearly as much.
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post Dec 27 2020, 12:11 AM
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QUOTE(horizontally-opposed @ Dec 26 2020, 09:35 PM) *

What I discovered: Seats might be the most important interface in a car. If they're good, you can drive all day.

100 % TRUE. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_flagge24.gif)

My seat search journey was the exact opposite of @horizontally-opposed .

The Scheels worked fine for me at the track, but I was crying uncle two hours into a road trip.

I was one of Stefan's early customers. The Watkins Glen was not available. I sat in a LeMans he had on display at a racetrack and refused to get up until we made a deal. It has proved to be one of the best investments I have ever made.

Seats are Personal. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif) Try before you buy. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) It's worth it.

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Don't get me started on how much I (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hearts.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) the Carbon Fiber Sport Buckets in my Cayman R.
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QUOTE(VegasRacer @ Dec 26 2020, 10:11 PM) *


100 % TRUE. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_flagge24.gif)

My seat search journey was the exact opposite of @horizontally-opposed .

The Scheels worked fine for me at the track, but I was crying uncle two hours into a road trip.

I was one of Stefan's early customers. The Watkins Glen was not available. I sat in a LeMans he had on display at a racetrack and refused to get up until we made a deal. It has proved to be one of the best investments I have ever made.

Seats are Personal. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif) Try before you buy. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) It's worth it.

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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/hijacked.gif)
Don't get me started on how much I (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hearts.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) the Carbon Fiber Sport Buckets in my Cayman R.


^ Love this.

Only underlines my feelings on this. Where I hesitated before to say this...it's really worth trying a seat out. In normal times, I'd even say it might be worth traveling to GTS (think about the number of hours you hope to drive your 914...). Or, if that just isn't feasible, consider ordering one and trying it for a while before ordering up the second one. The good news with GTS and Scheels and some other seats is you probably won't lose a lot of money moving from one good seat to another. Those GTSs I bought still had good value when I sold them on years later—and they still looked great, too.
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JamesJ   Sebring Seats-GTS Classics   Dec 23 2020, 07:59 PM
VegasRacer   I have no experience with the Sebring seat, but I ...   Dec 23 2020, 10:11 PM
cali914   I had a corbeau seat similar but being 6'0 the...   Dec 23 2020, 11:06 PM
Sway Bar   So no experience with this particular seat but I h...   Dec 23 2020, 11:07 PM
tygaboy   James - I have the LeMans seats with the seat belt...   Dec 23 2020, 11:14 PM
BillJ   Very interested in this thread as i just got a quo...   Dec 23 2020, 11:29 PM
VegasRacer   Very interested in this thread as i just got a qu...   Dec 24 2020, 12:30 AM
BillJ   Back to the top. Anyone have pics of the OP reque...   Dec 24 2020, 08:02 AM
JamesJ   Thanks for all of the responses! @VegasRacer.....   Dec 24 2020, 02:17 PM
gereed75   These are my all time favs. GTS Watkins Glen I be...   Dec 24 2020, 03:12 PM
double-a   installed my custom GTS Le Mans seats more than 10...   Dec 24 2020, 04:01 PM
jim_hoyland   Bought these leather GTS Le Mans seated with heath...   Dec 24 2020, 06:58 PM
raynekat   The GTS Watkins Glen model seats are definitely ma...   Dec 25 2020, 09:15 PM
gereed75   Yep, this just reinforces that these are my all ti...   Dec 26 2020, 08:19 AM
Rleog   The Watkins Glen was my choice. Fits excellently....   Dec 26 2020, 10:16 AM
pete000   Love the raw fiberglass variant ! Good thing f...   Dec 26 2020, 10:53 AM
chrisg   OK, so maybe I just can’t see it without all of ...   Dec 26 2020, 08:28 PM
tygaboy   OK, so maybe I just can’t see it without all of...   Dec 26 2020, 11:00 PM
horizontally-opposed   Been down this road, with three pairs of seats. ...   Dec 26 2020, 11:35 PM
VegasRacer   What I discovered: Seats might be the most impor...   Dec 27 2020, 12:11 AM
horizontally-opposed   100 % TRUE. :agree: :beer2: :chkflag: My se...   Dec 27 2020, 02:22 AM
horizontally-opposed   :hijacked: Don't get me started on how muc...   Dec 27 2020, 12:31 PM
JamesJ   Just wanted to follow up on this. I took up @tyg...   Jan 25 2021, 09:29 PM
daytona   This thread is so timely for me. I am going throug...   Apr 8 2021, 02:56 PM
DRPHIL914   This thread is so timely for me. I am going throu...   Apr 9 2021, 07:07 AM
DRPHIL914   like these’   Apr 9 2021, 07:22 AM
DRPHIL914   or this... too wide i think,   Apr 9 2021, 07:24 AM
DRPHIL914   here is the spec in those seats , 19.5” wide on ...   Apr 9 2021, 07:27 AM
daytona   DRPHILL914, I have been suffering through this dil...   Apr 9 2021, 01:02 PM


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