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> Vented Rotor Stock Strut, Yes it all bolts on
djway
post Dec 29 2020, 09:32 PM
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It was suggested I make this a stand alone thread so here it is. This will work for 4 or 5 lug wheels.
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07,08 cayman, 05-08 boxster 2.7L (non-S) rotors.
298x24 front
299x20 rear.
Calipers 97-08 Boxster
07-08 Cayman
Adapter mount for rear caliper. Re-drilled rear hub or the soon to be released 5lug hub from URO. If you want to keep 4 lug have the Boxster rotor drilled.
Front hub that goes right onto the stock strut and can use 4 or 5 lug wheel. Front rotor mount adapter.
I have not tried but am told 15” alloy works.
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Once the URO rear hub is available (announced Nov 2020) this entire upgrade to Boxster brakes with 5 lug will be an off the shelf bolt on affair.
edit I believe it can be done for both early and late struts. the struts shown are late which was harder to work out.
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QUOTE(Lanner @ Dec 30 2020, 01:18 PM) *

Hi guys,

My name is Lanner. I built this setup. It uses new iron hubs with radial brackets for use with stock 914 spindles. Bearings and wheel seals are stock 914 and it's bolt on. It's a good option that doesn't require swapping out to 911 suspension. Please let me know if you have any questions about the setup.
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i do have a couple questions, since i have 5-lug fuchs(16") , but used the stock rotor and brakes in front with the rotor redrilled and new lugs pressed into the rotor, so currently i have all stock set up, but i do have 19mm 911 master cylinder, so my question is this: for my front if i converted over to this set up , what would i require? The boxster caliper and rotor, and the hub and spacer mounting blocks, is that it? and then source the new studs?(i want to use nuts not lug bolts)
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also fyi i have 914/6 5 lug hubs on rear so just using the stock caliper with stock 4 lug solid rotor drilled for 5 lug(PMB), so for rear i would just maintain my current set up , or, if i wanted the rear boxster caliper would i just get the new rotor and caliper and mount with adaptor block? seems the new rotor would just slide right on my current rear hub but new caliper with spacer would be required, OR a 914-6 or M caliper could be used too?

Phillip - this looks like a great solution for putting big brakes on a car but I would hesitate to say it’s the solution for every car. I would put a Carrera rotor next to your stock rotor and check the weight difference then X 4 for the car. Adding pounds of unsprung weight to a narrow body four will affect acceleration and handling. Everything is a trade off and it really depends what you are trying to achieve.

We did the Boxster caliper, Carrera rotor upgrade on a lot of 911’s that got 3.2 or 3.6 engines. It’s a nice upgrade from M calipers.

S calipers have 3.5” spacing and are different from Boxster caliper spacing.
QUOTE(Lanner @ Dec 30 2020, 02:23 PM) *

Dr Phil,

Correct on front setup. You need the hubs and brackets. You can get some nice screw in studs from BMW shops or 034 motorsports.

Correct on rear setup, you'd just need the radial adapters. The 914 hub will accommodate the Cayman caliper without any work. Note you lose the parking brake.

I have this setup on my car (vw) with 19mm master and works well. It's been on there for over a decade. I'd suggest maybe a slightly bigger master (20.6) if you want a really tall pedal , but I've left good enough alone.

On 16 fuchs the calipers need a little massaging, and maybe a slight spacer 5mm unless you have the 951 Fuchs. Pic of massaging here:

In general you need 16" wheels. Some 15s fit (mainly the spare tire alloys such as 928/993 15" spare or 951 spare

Thanks
Lanner


Mark, @mepstein , good point, there is a lot to consider before just jumping into this but exciting to see this is an option. maybe a better lower weight option is the alloy calipers that PMB has could work using this hub and adaptor, again, saving weight and not having to swap out the whole suspension for 911 when i already have good new other components.
Lanner, thanks for all the info and the pictures. i think you will get a lot of interest in this.

Phil
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QUOTE(DRPHIL914 @ Dec 30 2020, 02:33 PM) *

QUOTE(mepstein @ Dec 30 2020, 02:19 PM) *

QUOTE(DRPHIL914 @ Dec 30 2020, 01:56 PM) *

QUOTE(Lanner @ Dec 30 2020, 01:18 PM) *

Hi guys,

My name is Lanner. I built this setup. It uses new iron hubs with radial brackets for use with stock 914 spindles. Bearings and wheel seals are stock 914 and it's bolt on. It's a good option that doesn't require swapping out to 911 suspension. Please let me know if you have any questions about the setup.
Thanks
Lanner



i do have a couple questions, since i have 5-lug fuchs(16") , but used the stock rotor and brakes in front with the rotor redrilled and new lugs pressed into the rotor, so currently i have all stock set up, but i do have 19mm 911 master cylinder, so my question is this: for my front if i converted over to this set up , what would i require? The boxster caliper and rotor, and the hub and spacer mounting blocks, is that it? and then source the new studs?(i want to use nuts not lug bolts)
@Lanner @djway


also fyi i have 914/6 5 lug hubs on rear so just using the stock caliper with stock 4 lug solid rotor drilled for 5 lug(PMB), so for rear i would just maintain my current set up , or, if i wanted the rear boxster caliper would i just get the new rotor and caliper and mount with adaptor block? seems the new rotor would just slide right on my current rear hub but new caliper with spacer would be required, OR a 914-6 or M caliper could be used too?

Phillip - this looks like a great solution for putting big brakes on a car but I would hesitate to say it’s the solution for every car. I would put a Carrera rotor next to your stock rotor and check the weight difference then X 4 for the car. Adding pounds of unsprung weight to a narrow body four will affect acceleration and handling. Everything is a trade off and it really depends what you are trying to achieve.

We did the Boxster caliper, Carrera rotor upgrade on a lot of 911’s that got 3.2 or 3.6 engines. It’s a nice upgrade from M calipers.

S calipers have 3.5” spacing and are different from Boxster caliper spacing.
QUOTE(Lanner @ Dec 30 2020, 02:23 PM) *

Dr Phil,

Correct on front setup. You need the hubs and brackets. You can get some nice screw in studs from BMW shops or 034 motorsports.

Correct on rear setup, you'd just need the radial adapters. The 914 hub will accommodate the Cayman caliper without any work. Note you lose the parking brake.

I have this setup on my car (vw) with 19mm master and works well. It's been on there for over a decade. I'd suggest maybe a slightly bigger master (20.6) if you want a really tall pedal , but I've left good enough alone.

On 16 fuchs the calipers need a little massaging, and maybe a slight spacer 5mm unless you have the 951 Fuchs. Pic of massaging here:

In general you need 16" wheels. Some 15s fit (mainly the spare tire alloys such as 928/993 15" spare or 951 spare

Thanks
Lanner


Mark, @mepstein , good point, there is a lot to consider before just jumping into this but exciting to see this is an option. maybe a better lower weight option is the alloy calipers that PMB has could work using this hub and adaptor, again, saving weight and not having to swap out the whole suspension for 911 when i already have good new other components.
Lanner, thanks for all the info and the pictures. i think you will get a lot of interest in this.

Phil

Maybe. These adaptors are for Boxster calipers, which I think are 3.75 spacing. S calipers are 3.5" and M/Alfa calipers are 3.0".
These adaptors look like a great product to provide a Boxster caliper solution on our stock cars but you are going to have to do your homework and not assume they will work in every situation.
I don't know if Boxster calipers will fit under/in 6x16 wheels.

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djway   Vented Rotor Stock Strut   Dec 29 2020, 09:32 PM
Robarabian   Who makes the adapter?   Dec 29 2020, 09:51 PM
djway   Who makes the adapter? I Worked with VDUBENGINEE...   Dec 29 2020, 10:12 PM
djway   For you early strut guys the Sebro vented rotor fo...   Dec 29 2020, 11:01 PM
Lanner   Hi guys, My name is Lanner. I built this setup. I...   Dec 30 2020, 12:18 PM
DRPHIL914   Hi guys, My name is Lanner. I built this setup. ...   Dec 30 2020, 12:56 PM
mepstein   [quote name='Lanner' post='2879113' date='Dec 30 ...   Dec 30 2020, 01:19 PM
Lanner   Dr Phil, Correct on front setup. You need the hub...   Dec 30 2020, 01:23 PM
djway   Dr Phil, Correct on front setup. You need the hu...   Dec 30 2020, 04:56 PM
Montreal914   Thank you for posting. This will get a lot of att...   Dec 30 2020, 12:25 PM
preach   Very cool!   Dec 30 2020, 12:30 PM
Lanner   Djway has been a great help, measuring things for ...   Dec 30 2020, 01:04 PM
DRPHIL914   Djway has been a great help, measuring things for...   Dec 30 2020, 01:19 PM
Lanner   Here's a VW I built on the same brake setup, 1...   Dec 30 2020, 01:29 PM
DRPHIL914   [quote name='Lanner' post='2879113' date='Dec 30...   Dec 30 2020, 01:33 PM
mepstein   [quote name='mepstein' post='2879144' date='Dec 3...   Dec 30 2020, 02:33 PM
Lanner   I agree mepstein, you are adding unsprung weight. ...   Dec 30 2020, 01:37 PM
Montreal914   Super cool bug! :) I would be curious to kn...   Dec 30 2020, 01:58 PM
Mark Henry   Super cool bug! :) I would be curious to k...   Dec 31 2020, 08:29 AM
pete000   Parking brake option...lol   Dec 30 2020, 02:28 PM
MM1   Parking brake option...lol Yep-2 of those tank...   Dec 30 2020, 02:53 PM
Lanner   @montreal914 , funny you should ask...are you in M...   Dec 30 2020, 02:32 PM
Montreal914   [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s...   Dec 30 2020, 02:42 PM
Lanner   The Boxster are 130mm radial mount. Most 911 is 89...   Dec 30 2020, 04:15 PM
djway   I found Lanner through an insane VW Fastback build...   Dec 30 2020, 04:51 PM
Lanner   @djway , the pictured calipers are just repainted ...   Jan 5 2021, 02:43 PM
ThePaintedMan   @djway [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/ind...   Jan 7 2021, 06:39 PM
djway   [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s...   Jan 7 2021, 09:28 PM
Lanner   @ThePaintedMan . The hubs are dual pattern, so you...   Feb 17 2021, 11:01 AM


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