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I’m new to 914s and 914World, but I’m pretty sure my car is not., Or: The Rocket, back at it again. |
messick |
Jun 29 2020, 12:57 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 39 Joined: 15-June 20 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 24,381 Region Association: Southern California |
Hello All,
My name is Nick. There is a chance some people here might remember my father, Tom Messick, who did 914 stuff back in SoCal about 20 years ago. More people probably remember this car though, a ’70 with a 3.0L motor from a 911SC, named the Rocket. My dad bought it from a dude named Mike Z, who used to post on this forum, but not sure if he’s around still. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-24381-1593413862.1.jpg) It hasn’t ran in a while. And since I’ve recently bought a place in Orange with a garage, and my dad has other projects these days, last week I put it on a trailer and brought it over. A quick history of its last decade and a half: After buying the car from Mike, the car was my dad’s daily driver for 5 or so years. I don’t remember any real issues. It wasn’t garaged, as his original 914 (a blue 72 1.8, I hazily remember) was constantly having problem that required it to be apart. In 2005 it picked up some sort of vacuum leak that caused it to rev at 3k. This was either caused by, or had caused, an air box leak. At the same time, my boss wanted to sell his 1 year old Audi S4 with 11k miles. My dad had recently changed jobs and had a 55 mile commute, so he picked up the S4 and went to and from in air conditioned, 350HP luxury. The Audi became the new daily driver, and the 914 went into a garage at a rental. Since the S4, he had various cars but the last 4 have been EVs (Geo Storm that’s now gone, Chevy S10 he’s putting a Leaf battery pack into to replace the lead acid setup, an E Golf, and now an E Tron. Well, sometime in 2010ish, some thieves broke into the garage and tried to steal the 914. They were pretty industrious as they brought their own Bosch fuel pump, and had even pulled the tank and fixed up a rotted away full line. However, they didn’t notice the battery master cut off switch was removed. They tried a bunch of things, but eventually they used a slide hammer on the ignition and attempted to directly hot wire the coil. Well, they learned the hard way that’s a bad idea since they (hopefully) got a face full of burning PCB oil ax the coil literally exploded. We are guessing whatever happened was pretty traumatic since they went through all that and didn’t just push it onto a trailer. They did steal the battery, amp, and head unit. For the next ten years it sat there until I trailered it home. Here's a what a blown coil can look like. Hard to tell, but like 6ft of wire blew out of it as well. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-24381-1593413862.2.jpg) Near terms plans are to change the oil, and then replace the battery and coil and see what we got going with the rest of the ignition system. Then I was thinking making sure the fuel stuff isn’t going to burn my house down. After that, vacuum hose replacements. After that brakes, as pedal goes right to the floor. After that, clean up mess the thieves made under the dash and with the ignition switch. Please let me know if I should do things a in a different order. I didn’t see a thread about “This is what you should do if your car has been sitting for 15 years”, but maybe someone can point me to one. Rust wise, the hellhole has some problems. Although, pulling off the rocker panel it doesn’t seem super terrible from the outside. Maybe someone can take a look at my pictures and tell me if the car is literally going to catastrophically fail if goes back onto the street in that condition. It has lots of stuff welded onto the bottom since it was an autocross racer, so not sure if that's hiding rust and/or mitigating it. The jack point cone thing definitely has a bunch. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-24381-1593413862.3.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-24381-1593413862.4.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-24381-1593413862.5.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-24381-1593413862.6.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-24381-1593413862.7.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-24381-1593413862.8.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i.imgur.com-24381-1593413862.9.jpg) My plan is to get it running and on the road so I can have some fun, but I am looking forward to (eventually) doing a full restoration. I literally have zero welding and auto body experience, so that part I’m going to have to work up to. Also, it will be easier to sell my wife on the garage getting taken over for an indefinite amount of time as an auto shop if she can at least drive around in the car first, heh. Anyway, I’m sure I’ll have a billion questions, but figured I’d introduce myself. More pics of rest of car in an album: https://imgur.com/a/v0gWS5R |
campbellcj |
Jul 1 2020, 08:12 AM
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I can't Re Member Group: Members Posts: 4,568 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Agoura, CA Member No.: 21 Region Association: Southern California |
From some drives and swap meets in 2001 -
The 73 2.0 I had at the time - |
get off my lawn |
Jan 20 2021, 12:28 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 168 Joined: 18-August 11 From: west coast Member No.: 13,462 Region Association: None |
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campbellcj |
Jan 21 2021, 07:55 AM
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I can't Re Member Group: Members Posts: 4,568 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Agoura, CA Member No.: 21 Region Association: Southern California |
From some drives and swap meets in 2001 - It needs a "save the naugas" bumper sticker. Whatever happened to malmzzzz, anywho? Good question - I totally fell out of touch with malmz and haven't seen any trace of that 914ZX car in eons. I bet a lot here don't even know there's a 914-280Z swap rolling around. |
ClayPerrine |
Jan 21 2021, 01:01 PM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,810 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
From some drives and swap meets in 2001 - It needs a "save the naugas" bumper sticker. Whatever happened to malmzzzz, anywho? Good question - I totally fell out of touch with malmz and haven't seen any trace of that 914ZX car in eons. I bet a lot here don't even know there's a 914-280Z swap rolling around. It was a VG-30 V-6 out of a 300ZX. The inline six in a 280ZX would never fit in a 914 engine compartment. |
get off my lawn |
Jan 21 2021, 01:27 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 168 Joined: 18-August 11 From: west coast Member No.: 13,462 Region Association: None |
The inline six in a 280ZX would never fit in a 914 engine compartment. And ya can't turbo a 914 either (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) I agree that it wouldn't fit WELL, but ....... |
ClayPerrine |
Jan 21 2021, 02:20 PM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,810 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
The inline six in a 280ZX would never fit in a 914 engine compartment. And ya can't turbo a 914 either (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) I agree that it wouldn't fit WELL, but ....... I have LOTS of experience with the Nissan L-28 engine. The length of the L-28 block alone is 30 inches, without pulleys or flywheel. It is almost the length of a 914 engine and transmission combined. You would have to stretch the whole 914 chassis to install it. |
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