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Purchase price vs. resale price, possibly shooting ourselves in the foot? |
jwalters |
Dec 27 2004, 01:35 PM
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Sooo Close....... Group: Members Posts: 1,677 Joined: 14-May 04 From: Huntsville, AL Member No.: 2,068 Region Association: Europe |
I am sure I am going to get much banter, good, bad, and ugly for this post. But I just have to bring this up.
It is about all the talk I read about appropriate purchase prices of any teener. It seems as though a great multitude of people are hell bent that a teener should never cost anybody more than maybe 2k. Yet the parts for this car is easily on par with a full-on Porsche 911,928, etc. Particularly the engine--it is a vw unit developed ( in conjunction with Porsche??)--I could easily rebuild a flat six for the same if not much less than the cost of a higher power / reliable IV model. We as a group are spending an absurd amount of time and greenbacks to get our cars to our personal level--yet the consensus I read is that after all this is done the cars are worth absolutely s*#t compared to the comparables. In my humble opinion this needs to stop, I see much foot shooting going on here. Do we as a group really want to invest all of the above and then by our own methods and verbalizations intentially keep the cars ...ahem..."CHEAP"? Now do not get me wrong--I am all about "affordable" , but would rather see "affordable" vs. CHEAP and LESS than it could / should be. I have an newer issue of "Excellance" and they are reporting the 914's are on the rise--We as a group have it within our power to change this trend for the worse if carefull thought is not applied to what is being said, sold, and bought. I do not want to pump 10k into my car from rustoration, upgrades, only to only get maybe 2k for it if I was in the need. I realize that right now I would be hard pressed to get what only I have in it, not to include my personal labor hours, which so far has exceeded 500 easily at a shop rate of $55.00 an hour---the OTHER Porsches do tho............... I see too many nice cars for sale and people asking what they are worth and then saying that same nice car that is in good repair should only be " $900.00,,Tops" This is not going to cut it--we should be following the examples as set out in our newsstand advocate--"Excellance" Just think about this for a moment before spouting off------I see much shooting of the feet in here--lets get smarter--and help the market adjust our beloved to the affordable level--not the out of reach level--We need parts that are of high quality, yet not priced exorbitantly--do you want to sell 10 at a 100.00, or 1000 at 50.00?? For every person that can afford a 10k type IV motor, there are possibly hundreds if not thousands who cannot. Just not dirt cheap to begin with an excellant example and then pour another thousands into it to make it our own and then get nothing for the fruits of our labor........... It makes me sick to read about some poor schmo that bought a 2.5k rebuild cause that is what he could afford, and then have nothing but problems with it--then get berated about: " Told you so"..when the type 1 crowd can have 200+ hp for LESS THAN 3K----------I might just put a type 1 in mine and save 7k, or more-- Just as an example: For the time and money I am putting into my car--I could have easily purchased a late 70's-early 80's 911, rebuilt the motor, put good wheels and tires on it--and probably a minor interior / exterior upgrade--and easily sell it for more than I bought it / upgraded it for-------- I want to thank all of you that manufacture worthwhile products AND also price them accordingly---some others out there could possibly do some homework----We need to help the market as a whole with resale values----3000 members (almost) in a small community as the 914 is, is strong JEDI......yes, we are strong......... If I have offended anybody I do not apologize--this is a forum for adult lively discussion--I would ask no less from anybody else. This post is NOT to any one person(s)--it is just a discussion. But if things do not begin to change before I dump my talents and cash into this--I will go the 911 route Point is: " I should not put 10k plus into my car and then expect to get for it what I am reading in here!, which is crap.........." |
jwalters |
Dec 27 2004, 03:44 PM
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Sooo Close....... Group: Members Posts: 1,677 Joined: 14-May 04 From: Huntsville, AL Member No.: 2,068 Region Association: Europe |
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) I t is always so interesting how so many people will get the facts sooo wrong...kinda like how suzy and bobby made out, then by the time it got passed around suzy was pregnant and bobby was dead from her father.
Who said anything about the 914 eclipsing the 911??? I see 911's heavily modified all day long get the money asked by the owners---the 914 crowd does the same thing, they get what they ask...ever hear the term;" you get what you ask for?"...point here is ASKING PRICE. yes, maybe the 911 guy is not getting all he has into it---but then again, I see it happen that he does, and some even make money. Again I am going to say it again-----we should not have to invest so much time and money into a car when a '59 morris mini in pieces commands 4k. Am I saying get out of it what we put into it?? NO, but somehow this thread has moved to that leftest wing party. Great that you love your car and enjoy putting thousands into it with no possible hope of any worthwhile return, you obviously are stinking rich, good for you, I and thousands like me are not, you are just one in the crowd--of thousands who would like to see SOME return in the investment. This will not happen until attitudes change--and yes, the market could explode on these cars---it has happened with many, many others, but again I am referring to "Affordable" with respect to the thousands we are investing into them--don't say it does not happen--you see it every time you pick up a copy of excellance. Why would anybody, even for the pure enjoyment, allow something like this to occur--this is the basis of capitalism and our society--only people with all the money in the world do not care what happens...or do they...how did they get so rich in the first place...wise investments,,,helping the market expand,, |