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> RHD 914, what's value of a rhd 914
9146-racer
post Mar 6 2021, 09:55 AM
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Hi, I haven't been on here for ages, sorry to have missed you all.
I have just been reading an article on the RHD Crayford cars and really would appreciate a value for one.
My car is a 1969 Crayford, in fact I understand it to be the first one ever.

I've owned it for about 30 years and now am considering parting with it, but what's it worth?


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post Mar 6 2021, 02:54 PM
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i recognize that dashboard.

you can count the # of crayfords cars left on the fingers of a one armed man.

think it has been established only were 11 done.

there used to be two in australia in the 70s and 80s.
i knew the owner of one of them well before he passed away in the 2000s.
car survives in sydney.
other car disappeared from view in the 90s.
it may still be here in aus - no-one has seen it for a long time.
both 73 cars that arrived in 74 via malaya motors (i think - there was some deal via malaya or an english dealer with crayfords that was the ordering set up).

a guy on this site, lives in sydney i met last year, was trying to track down the crayfords cars. don't know what he came up with survivor nos.

there was a advert a few years ago for a green crayfords car with severe rust issues for sale in UK. i'd be surprised if anyone could realistically have saved that car.
another car found its way back to the UK a few years ago, advert claimed it was a crayfords converted car that went to Malaysia? or Singapore? via Western Australia?

the crayfords car that went to Hong Kong was spotted in Macua in the 80s by the late owner of the crayfords car here that i knew. i saw photos of it 25 years ago. that car was already a rolling wreck at that time. i doubt it survived.

my guess is there are only three of them left on the road globally.
1 here. 2 in the UK (incl yours)? and maybe 2 more not on road (1 other here?/1 in uk).

yours is #1.

a rhd crayfords car featured on the cover of CAR magazine july 71 .
though that car was blue with a tan interior. thats a special car too i guess.
seemed to be the one all the magazine road tests were done in.
probably long gone and recycled as a toaster by now.

its a car with great historical value.
i don't know what its worth.
but its important.

the only other cars, converted in that era when the cars were new were the two 6s that came into aus via the distributor. at min. one of those was converted here in the distributors workshop. there are stories that the other one came in via japan already converted to rhd. i've only seen the one that came in via japan. the conversion was quite different in detailed appearance compared to the crayfords cars. the other one was for many years an "urban legend" - said to have been written off in a head on crash.
but the man in sydney says it exists and has been the subject of a long rebuild and restoration. he showed me some photos of it. so its still out there. its conversion might be different again since it was done here for sure.

nice car by the way.

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i think its difficult for folks in the USA to understand the history of the RHD conversion thing. matters get confused by the industry that rose in Aus in the 80s and 90s converting second hand 914s imported from the USA. that was an aberration caused by a variety of economic and regulatory factors and resulted in a batch of rhd cars 20 years later either by individuals in backyard garages or an assortment of cottage industry operators. before that, there was no RHD conversion going on re 914s. there were just the crayfords cars - all of which were ordered by original purchasers of new cars and who lived in ex british colonies in the far east or were resident uk citizens. that is what distinguishes the cars. crayfords started and ended with the cars when new - straight from the factory.
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9146-racer   RHD 914   Mar 6 2021, 09:55 AM
JeffBowlsby   Depends on condition and numerous other factors. ...   Mar 6 2021, 10:21 AM
9146-racer   Ok, car was delivered new as a LHD, 1700cc, in ta...   Mar 6 2021, 11:39 AM
Mikey914   What does the dash look like?   Mar 6 2021, 11:42 AM
9146-racer   Here is the dash   Mar 6 2021, 11:48 AM
9146-racer   just before heading to Stuttgart for the 50th.   Mar 6 2021, 11:59 AM
ctc911ctc   Whoa! I want to know more about your shop...   Mar 9 2021, 12:01 PM
Mark Henry   It depends on the condition and what it's wort...   Mar 6 2021, 12:30 PM
Big Len   I would think it would have more value staying in ...   Mar 6 2021, 01:29 PM
horizontally-opposed   It's funny, as I'm a big fan of Tangerine ...   Mar 6 2021, 01:58 PM
wonkipop   i recognize that dashboard. you can count the # o...   Mar 6 2021, 02:54 PM
JeffBowlsby   @dr914@autoatlanta.com   Mar 6 2021, 03:28 PM
wonkipop   aus car dashboard. photos from when it was for sal...   Mar 6 2021, 04:14 PM
jim_hoyland   There are {were ?) two RHDS IN Singapore. This ora...   Mar 6 2021, 04:15 PM
Mark Henry   There are {were ?) two RHDS IN Singapore. This or...   Mar 6 2021, 04:59 PM
euro911   There are {were ?) two RHDS IN Singapore. This ora...   Jul 3 2021, 06:12 PM
jim_hoyland   Here ya go; Meng had a serious crash in the above ...   Mar 6 2021, 04:21 PM
Tom_T   As Len & wonkipop said - I really believe that...   Mar 6 2021, 04:46 PM
wonkipop   the yellow car in the garage next to the red meng ...   Mar 6 2021, 05:19 PM
9146-racer   The script and badge were not origanally fitted to...   Mar 7 2021, 04:21 AM
horizontally-opposed   The script and badge were not origanally fitted t...   Mar 8 2021, 05:40 PM
wonkipop   The script and badge were not origanally fitted ...   Mar 9 2021, 03:51 AM
wonkipop   who cares about the badges. they are cute. its a...   Mar 7 2021, 04:53 AM
SixerJ   Also check out Collecting Cars as a sales platform...   Mar 8 2021, 04:49 PM
Arno914   I took a few pictures of that rare 914 during the ...   Mar 9 2021, 04:50 AM
wonkipop   nice images. that would have got the germans all e...   Mar 9 2021, 05:17 AM
wonkipop   another funny thing. they never bothered to fill i...   Mar 9 2021, 05:53 AM
Tom_T   It's interesting that VW & Porsche had in ...   Mar 9 2021, 11:36 AM
wonkipop   It's interesting that VW & Porsche had in...   Mar 9 2021, 03:38 PM
23e Heure   Hi Ian, It's James (23eheure) from DDK. I beli...   Mar 9 2021, 11:48 AM
wonkipop   understanding the second wave of rhd 914s that by ...   Mar 9 2021, 05:01 PM
Arno914   Thank you for sharing all of this information, won...   Mar 10 2021, 02:52 AM
wonkipop   Thank you for sharing all of this information, wo...   Mar 10 2021, 03:43 AM
Arno914   Found one more picture, expert discussion. :) ht...   Mar 10 2021, 03:15 AM
Tom_T   Found one more picture, expert discussion. :) h...   Mar 10 2021, 11:40 AM
wonkipop   the angst about the pedals is real. if any of you ...   Mar 10 2021, 04:03 AM
Tom_T   the angst about the pedals is real. if any of you...   Mar 10 2021, 11:35 AM
wonkipop   the angst about the pedals is real. if any of yo...   Mar 10 2021, 03:58 PM
Tom_T   aussie rules down here in oz-mexico, old game is ...   Mar 10 2021, 04:12 PM
wonkipop   aussie rules down here in oz-mexico, old game is...   Mar 11 2021, 02:53 AM
Tom_T   live in home of aussie rules, melbourne. suppose...   Mar 11 2021, 01:22 PM
wonkipop   live in home of aussie rules, melbourne. suppos...   Mar 11 2021, 07:35 PM
Tom_T   got to get properly used to the 14 again. no re...   Mar 12 2021, 12:33 PM
23e Heure   ...not that anyone is ever going to do it ever ag...   Mar 10 2021, 05:46 AM
wonkipop   ...not that anyone is ever going to do it ever a...   Mar 10 2021, 03:36 PM
23e Heure   [quote name='23e Heure' post='2897889' date='Mar ...   Mar 15 2021, 01:13 PM
Midway   A lot of interesting information Wonkipop. I am a ...   Mar 11 2021, 07:21 AM
wonkipop   my 14 is american sourced from my stay in chicago ...   Mar 13 2021, 12:38 AM
Tom_T   my 14 is american sourced from my stay in chicago...   Mar 13 2021, 02:31 PM
wonkipop   my 14 is american sourced from my stay in chicag...   Mar 14 2021, 03:44 AM
Tom_T   i have the NO branded XAS = tubeless. i did not...   Mar 14 2021, 04:52 PM
wonkipop   took some shots out at workshop today while attend...   Mar 15 2021, 05:16 AM
23e Heure   PS: Ian: sorry for hijacking your thread!   Mar 15 2021, 01:13 PM
9146-racer   No Worries James   Mar 15 2021, 01:38 PM
Tom_T   No Worries James Thanx Ian! Is that ...   Mar 15 2021, 02:09 PM
9146-racer   Sorry guys, forgot to put a caption...... this is ...   Mar 15 2021, 01:48 PM
wonkipop   Sorry guys, forgot to put a caption...... this is...   Mar 16 2021, 02:46 AM
9146-racer   how they look today...   Mar 15 2021, 02:05 PM
ClayPerrine   Question on the pedals.... Why didn't they ju...   Mar 15 2021, 02:14 PM
wonkipop   Question on the pedals.... Why didn't they j...   Mar 15 2021, 02:33 PM
Tom_T   Even the LHD 914 pedals are small & tightly to...   Mar 15 2021, 02:42 PM
wonkipop   Even the LHD 914 pedals are small & tightly t...   Mar 15 2021, 02:54 PM
Tom_T   think the germans thought corrective leg surgery ...   Mar 16 2021, 12:19 PM
Maltese Falcon   Right Hand Steering !   Jul 3 2021, 01:07 PM
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