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> RHD 914, what's value of a rhd 914
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post Mar 6 2021, 09:55 AM
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Hi, I haven't been on here for ages, sorry to have missed you all.
I have just been reading an article on the RHD Crayford cars and really would appreciate a value for one.
My car is a 1969 Crayford, in fact I understand it to be the first one ever.

I've owned it for about 30 years and now am considering parting with it, but what's it worth?


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post Mar 9 2021, 11:36 AM
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It's interesting that VW & Porsche had in fact engineered & manufactured the 914s such that they could be both LHD & RHD from the factory - as they did with most other VW & Porsche models - but they never did so themselves for the 914.
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That is odd because they probably could have sold quite a few 1000s more to the RHD markets in the UK, Ireland, OZ, NZ, South Africa & Japan - if it were only offered with the controls on the "proper side" for those markets.
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It's interesting that VW & Porsche had in fact engineered & manufactured the 914s such that they could be both LHD & RHD from the factory - as they did with most other VW & Porsche models - but they never did so themselves for the 914.
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That is odd because they probably could have sold quite a few 1000s more to the RHD markets in the UK, Ireland, OZ, NZ, South Africa & Japan - if it were only offered with the controls on the "proper side" for those markets.
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my guess is VW controlled the decision since they owned the karmann plant.

looked at closely, a 914 is less universal as a monocoque in lhd form.
very purist, fuel tank and battery offset drivers weight when only a driver in the car.
a lot of special panels would have been needed. mirroring of front bulkhead foot wells,
unique fuel tank, rhd wiring loom. 911s and other aircooled vws like beetle, type 3 not asymmetric to the same degree.

its interesting where the cars did end up in the pacific. i've seen photos of 914s in tahiti (former french colony). anywhere left hand drive - they seemed to find their way to.
i'm sure the tahiti cars would be piles of rust dust by now.

vw were in trouble in aus by the early 70s. the japanese onslaught was in full swing.
the beetle ended here before anywhere else in the world. they never even bothered with 411s - would have been too expensive to compete against japanese cars. south africa did get 411s and 412s.

datsun 240zs sold like hot cakes down here as well as maxda rotaries. i think 914s would not have stood a chance. vw had a rational view on numbers and profits and no sentiment when it came to their inability to compete with the J cars. i think even subaru got their big start down here. those little 4 wheel drive subaru wagons and utes would go anywhere and in more comfort than a bigger toyota landcruiser or land rover. i remember people traded straight out of their type 3 squarebacks which were a very popular car here in late 60s/early 70s into subaru wagons. if i remember right a lot of vw dealerships transformed into subaru dealerships. the japanese smashed the brits and european cars. in the 80s the european makes were not here anymore. it was just J cars and the local GM and Ford product.

Japan tested itself for the USA market by coming to Aus for practice. it helped we were a right hand drive country too. started down here 5 - 10 years before they took on the US.

to give an idea, the #s on rhd karmann ghia type 3s sold in aus - was not in the thousands, was in the hundreds. probably the closest car to compare the 914/4 to is ghia type 3s. might even be more 914s in australia now than ghia 3s that survived.

the trick to getting a rhd 914 in australia in early 70s was via a sort of tourist delivery.
if you owned the car and used it for 3 months in europe there were significant reductions in custom duty and sales tax when you shipped it in. so you had to co-ordinate either a summer holiday in europe or a working stay in london/uk with the purchase. would not mind betting the paperwork on the orders for the two 914s that were in australia that i knew had london addresses. they would have to or otherwise you were in the catagory of commercial importer.

the porsche distributor here did have a scheme for tourist delivery on 911s back in that era to assist customers in reducing the cost of those cars.

it was a kind of similar thing to get hold of the 914 - except the distributor in aus would not help you, or the factory. instead you did it all through a uk dealer, malaya motors i think, it was an exclusive arrangement and the only way to get the rhd car.

vw had the heyday in aus in the 50s and 60s. by the 70s they were in real trouble.
even the golf did not save them. was too expensive to compete against the J cars.
they fully withdrew before the mark 2 golf came out. did not come back until the mid 90s when J cars started to increase in cost.

one of the benefits though is we did get a few exotic J cars down here since we were RHD too. i can remember the dentist in my country town briefly owned a toyota 2000 GT.
there were a few mazda cosmos here as well. also those great little subsized toyota and honda convertibles from real early on. in the 80s J collectors came down and took most of them back.
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9146-racer   RHD 914   Mar 6 2021, 09:55 AM
JeffBowlsby   Depends on condition and numerous other factors. ...   Mar 6 2021, 10:21 AM
9146-racer   Ok, car was delivered new as a LHD, 1700cc, in ta...   Mar 6 2021, 11:39 AM
Mikey914   What does the dash look like?   Mar 6 2021, 11:42 AM
9146-racer   Here is the dash   Mar 6 2021, 11:48 AM
9146-racer   just before heading to Stuttgart for the 50th.   Mar 6 2021, 11:59 AM
ctc911ctc   Whoa! I want to know more about your shop...   Mar 9 2021, 12:01 PM
Mark Henry   It depends on the condition and what it's wort...   Mar 6 2021, 12:30 PM
Big Len   I would think it would have more value staying in ...   Mar 6 2021, 01:29 PM
horizontally-opposed   It's funny, as I'm a big fan of Tangerine ...   Mar 6 2021, 01:58 PM
wonkipop   i recognize that dashboard. you can count the # o...   Mar 6 2021, 02:54 PM
JeffBowlsby   @dr914@autoatlanta.com   Mar 6 2021, 03:28 PM
wonkipop   aus car dashboard. photos from when it was for sal...   Mar 6 2021, 04:14 PM
jim_hoyland   There are {were ?) two RHDS IN Singapore. This ora...   Mar 6 2021, 04:15 PM
Mark Henry   There are {were ?) two RHDS IN Singapore. This or...   Mar 6 2021, 04:59 PM
euro911   There are {were ?) two RHDS IN Singapore. This ora...   Jul 3 2021, 06:12 PM
jim_hoyland   Here ya go; Meng had a serious crash in the above ...   Mar 6 2021, 04:21 PM
Tom_T   As Len & wonkipop said - I really believe that...   Mar 6 2021, 04:46 PM
wonkipop   the yellow car in the garage next to the red meng ...   Mar 6 2021, 05:19 PM
9146-racer   The script and badge were not origanally fitted to...   Mar 7 2021, 04:21 AM
horizontally-opposed   The script and badge were not origanally fitted t...   Mar 8 2021, 05:40 PM
wonkipop   The script and badge were not origanally fitted ...   Mar 9 2021, 03:51 AM
wonkipop   who cares about the badges. they are cute. its a...   Mar 7 2021, 04:53 AM
SixerJ   Also check out Collecting Cars as a sales platform...   Mar 8 2021, 04:49 PM
Arno914   I took a few pictures of that rare 914 during the ...   Mar 9 2021, 04:50 AM
wonkipop   nice images. that would have got the germans all e...   Mar 9 2021, 05:17 AM
wonkipop   another funny thing. they never bothered to fill i...   Mar 9 2021, 05:53 AM
Tom_T   It's interesting that VW & Porsche had in ...   Mar 9 2021, 11:36 AM
wonkipop   It's interesting that VW & Porsche had in...   Mar 9 2021, 03:38 PM
23e Heure   Hi Ian, It's James (23eheure) from DDK. I beli...   Mar 9 2021, 11:48 AM
wonkipop   understanding the second wave of rhd 914s that by ...   Mar 9 2021, 05:01 PM
Arno914   Thank you for sharing all of this information, won...   Mar 10 2021, 02:52 AM
wonkipop   Thank you for sharing all of this information, wo...   Mar 10 2021, 03:43 AM
Arno914   Found one more picture, expert discussion. :) ht...   Mar 10 2021, 03:15 AM
Tom_T   Found one more picture, expert discussion. :) h...   Mar 10 2021, 11:40 AM
wonkipop   the angst about the pedals is real. if any of you ...   Mar 10 2021, 04:03 AM
Tom_T   the angst about the pedals is real. if any of you...   Mar 10 2021, 11:35 AM
wonkipop   the angst about the pedals is real. if any of yo...   Mar 10 2021, 03:58 PM
Tom_T   aussie rules down here in oz-mexico, old game is ...   Mar 10 2021, 04:12 PM
wonkipop   aussie rules down here in oz-mexico, old game is...   Mar 11 2021, 02:53 AM
Tom_T   live in home of aussie rules, melbourne. suppose...   Mar 11 2021, 01:22 PM
wonkipop   live in home of aussie rules, melbourne. suppos...   Mar 11 2021, 07:35 PM
Tom_T   got to get properly used to the 14 again. no re...   Mar 12 2021, 12:33 PM
23e Heure   ...not that anyone is ever going to do it ever ag...   Mar 10 2021, 05:46 AM
wonkipop   ...not that anyone is ever going to do it ever a...   Mar 10 2021, 03:36 PM
23e Heure   [quote name='23e Heure' post='2897889' date='Mar ...   Mar 15 2021, 01:13 PM
Midway   A lot of interesting information Wonkipop. I am a ...   Mar 11 2021, 07:21 AM
wonkipop   my 14 is american sourced from my stay in chicago ...   Mar 13 2021, 12:38 AM
Tom_T   my 14 is american sourced from my stay in chicago...   Mar 13 2021, 02:31 PM
wonkipop   my 14 is american sourced from my stay in chicag...   Mar 14 2021, 03:44 AM
Tom_T   i have the NO branded XAS = tubeless. i did not...   Mar 14 2021, 04:52 PM
wonkipop   took some shots out at workshop today while attend...   Mar 15 2021, 05:16 AM
23e Heure   PS: Ian: sorry for hijacking your thread!   Mar 15 2021, 01:13 PM
9146-racer   No Worries James   Mar 15 2021, 01:38 PM
Tom_T   No Worries James Thanx Ian! Is that ...   Mar 15 2021, 02:09 PM
9146-racer   Sorry guys, forgot to put a caption...... this is ...   Mar 15 2021, 01:48 PM
wonkipop   Sorry guys, forgot to put a caption...... this is...   Mar 16 2021, 02:46 AM
9146-racer   how they look today...   Mar 15 2021, 02:05 PM
ClayPerrine   Question on the pedals.... Why didn't they ju...   Mar 15 2021, 02:14 PM
wonkipop   Question on the pedals.... Why didn't they j...   Mar 15 2021, 02:33 PM
Tom_T   Even the LHD 914 pedals are small & tightly to...   Mar 15 2021, 02:42 PM
wonkipop   Even the LHD 914 pedals are small & tightly t...   Mar 15 2021, 02:54 PM
Tom_T   think the germans thought corrective leg surgery ...   Mar 16 2021, 12:19 PM
Maltese Falcon   Right Hand Steering !   Jul 3 2021, 01:07 PM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   worth what a similar condition 914 is worth but on...   Jul 3 2021, 01:14 PM


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