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> RHD 914, what's value of a rhd 914
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post Mar 6 2021, 09:55 AM
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Hi, I haven't been on here for ages, sorry to have missed you all.
I have just been reading an article on the RHD Crayford cars and really would appreciate a value for one.
My car is a 1969 Crayford, in fact I understand it to be the first one ever.

I've owned it for about 30 years and now am considering parting with it, but what's it worth?


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post Mar 10 2021, 04:03 AM
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the angst about the pedals is real.
if any of you ever got the chance to drive a lhd 911 and then hop straight into a rhd 911 you would instantly understand.

it all feels right in a lhd 911. you stretch out for the gas pedal left hand drive and you punch the clutch straight out in front. the pedals are skewed but it suits LHD.
(same goes for a 914 lhd).

imagine stretching your leg to punch the clutch where the gas pedal is!

a 911 is narrower than a 914 and the skewed business is "manageable".
its even more skewed in a 914.

study some photos of the pedals in lhd 911s compared to rhd 911s.
you will see what i mean.

in a rhd 911 the brake and clutch pedals are really close together.
in a lhd they are spread apart and the brake pedal is close to the accelerator pedal.

so its not good to just stick a rhd 911 pedal cluster into a rhd 914.

crayfords cut the brake pedal as far as we could tell and welded a piece to extend it across to the right and get it closer to the accelerator pedal.
the porsche factory should have taken a close look at what they did.
it was a bunch of right hand drive country engineers making a critique of the job the lhd drive country did producing rhd cars (ie their rhd 911s).

even today i see rhd 911s in aus that guys have done all sorts of work to the pedals on to try and get a level of comfort that suits their style.

converting to rhd was not simply a matter of reproducing the lhd dimensions.
things change when you go to the other side of the car.
and somehow crayfords got it right and they did this by adjusting things.

i've sat in a few rhd 914s down here.
i've sat in some that just make you wonder what was going through the head of the person who did it. and what went wrong?
the crayfords cars feel natural and right.
because of that they are the template.
not that anyone is ever going to do it ever again.
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post Mar 10 2021, 11:35 AM
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QUOTE(wonkipop @ Mar 10 2021, 02:03 AM) *

the angst about the pedals is real.
if any of you ever got the chance to drive a lhd 911 and then hop straight into a rhd 911 you would instantly understand.

it all feels right in a lhd 911. you stretch out for the gas pedal left hand drive and you punch the clutch straight out in front. the pedals are skewed but it suits LHD.
(same goes for a 914 lhd).

imagine stretching your leg to punch the clutch where the gas pedal is!

a 911 is narrower than a 914 and the skewed business is "manageable".
its even more skewed in a 914.

study some photos of the pedals in lhd 911s compared to rhd 911s.
you will see what i mean.

in a rhd 911 the brake and clutch pedals are really close together.
in a lhd they are spread apart and the brake pedal is close to the accelerator pedal.

so its not good to just stick a rhd 911 pedal cluster into a rhd 914.

crayfords cut the brake pedal as far as we could tell and welded a piece to extend it across to the right and get it closer to the accelerator pedal.
the porsche factory should have taken a close look at what they did.
it was a bunch of right hand drive country engineers making a critique of the job the lhd drive country did producing rhd cars (ie their rhd 911s).

even today i see rhd 911s in aus that guys have done all sorts of work to the pedals on to try and get a level of comfort that suits their style.

converting to rhd was not simply a matter of reproducing the lhd dimensions.
things change when you go to the other side of the car.
and somehow crayfords got it right and they did this by adjusting things.

i've sat in a few rhd 914s down here.
i've sat in some that just make you wonder what was going through the head of the person who did it. and what went wrong?
the crayfords cars feel natural and right.
because of that they are the template.
not that anyone is ever going to do it ever again.


Wonki -

It's nice to have another member with the passion for sharing info & details and for sharing them on here! Thanx & keep up the info flow!

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9146-racer   RHD 914   Mar 6 2021, 09:55 AM
JeffBowlsby   Depends on condition and numerous other factors. ...   Mar 6 2021, 10:21 AM
9146-racer   Ok, car was delivered new as a LHD, 1700cc, in ta...   Mar 6 2021, 11:39 AM
Mikey914   What does the dash look like?   Mar 6 2021, 11:42 AM
9146-racer   Here is the dash   Mar 6 2021, 11:48 AM
9146-racer   just before heading to Stuttgart for the 50th.   Mar 6 2021, 11:59 AM
ctc911ctc   Whoa! I want to know more about your shop...   Mar 9 2021, 12:01 PM
Mark Henry   It depends on the condition and what it's wort...   Mar 6 2021, 12:30 PM
Big Len   I would think it would have more value staying in ...   Mar 6 2021, 01:29 PM
horizontally-opposed   It's funny, as I'm a big fan of Tangerine ...   Mar 6 2021, 01:58 PM
wonkipop   i recognize that dashboard. you can count the # o...   Mar 6 2021, 02:54 PM
JeffBowlsby   @dr914@autoatlanta.com   Mar 6 2021, 03:28 PM
wonkipop   aus car dashboard. photos from when it was for sal...   Mar 6 2021, 04:14 PM
jim_hoyland   There are {were ?) two RHDS IN Singapore. This ora...   Mar 6 2021, 04:15 PM
Mark Henry   There are {were ?) two RHDS IN Singapore. This or...   Mar 6 2021, 04:59 PM
euro911   There are {were ?) two RHDS IN Singapore. This ora...   Jul 3 2021, 06:12 PM
jim_hoyland   Here ya go; Meng had a serious crash in the above ...   Mar 6 2021, 04:21 PM
Tom_T   As Len & wonkipop said - I really believe that...   Mar 6 2021, 04:46 PM
wonkipop   the yellow car in the garage next to the red meng ...   Mar 6 2021, 05:19 PM
9146-racer   The script and badge were not origanally fitted to...   Mar 7 2021, 04:21 AM
horizontally-opposed   The script and badge were not origanally fitted t...   Mar 8 2021, 05:40 PM
wonkipop   The script and badge were not origanally fitted ...   Mar 9 2021, 03:51 AM
wonkipop   who cares about the badges. they are cute. its a...   Mar 7 2021, 04:53 AM
SixerJ   Also check out Collecting Cars as a sales platform...   Mar 8 2021, 04:49 PM
Arno914   I took a few pictures of that rare 914 during the ...   Mar 9 2021, 04:50 AM
wonkipop   nice images. that would have got the germans all e...   Mar 9 2021, 05:17 AM
wonkipop   another funny thing. they never bothered to fill i...   Mar 9 2021, 05:53 AM
Tom_T   It's interesting that VW & Porsche had in ...   Mar 9 2021, 11:36 AM
wonkipop   It's interesting that VW & Porsche had in...   Mar 9 2021, 03:38 PM
23e Heure   Hi Ian, It's James (23eheure) from DDK. I beli...   Mar 9 2021, 11:48 AM
wonkipop   understanding the second wave of rhd 914s that by ...   Mar 9 2021, 05:01 PM
Arno914   Thank you for sharing all of this information, won...   Mar 10 2021, 02:52 AM
wonkipop   Thank you for sharing all of this information, wo...   Mar 10 2021, 03:43 AM
Arno914   Found one more picture, expert discussion. :) ht...   Mar 10 2021, 03:15 AM
Tom_T   Found one more picture, expert discussion. :) h...   Mar 10 2021, 11:40 AM
wonkipop   the angst about the pedals is real. if any of you ...   Mar 10 2021, 04:03 AM
Tom_T   the angst about the pedals is real. if any of you...   Mar 10 2021, 11:35 AM
wonkipop   the angst about the pedals is real. if any of yo...   Mar 10 2021, 03:58 PM
Tom_T   aussie rules down here in oz-mexico, old game is ...   Mar 10 2021, 04:12 PM
wonkipop   aussie rules down here in oz-mexico, old game is...   Mar 11 2021, 02:53 AM
Tom_T   live in home of aussie rules, melbourne. suppose...   Mar 11 2021, 01:22 PM
wonkipop   live in home of aussie rules, melbourne. suppos...   Mar 11 2021, 07:35 PM
Tom_T   got to get properly used to the 14 again. no re...   Mar 12 2021, 12:33 PM
23e Heure   ...not that anyone is ever going to do it ever ag...   Mar 10 2021, 05:46 AM
wonkipop   ...not that anyone is ever going to do it ever a...   Mar 10 2021, 03:36 PM
23e Heure   [quote name='23e Heure' post='2897889' date='Mar ...   Mar 15 2021, 01:13 PM
Midway   A lot of interesting information Wonkipop. I am a ...   Mar 11 2021, 07:21 AM
wonkipop   my 14 is american sourced from my stay in chicago ...   Mar 13 2021, 12:38 AM
Tom_T   my 14 is american sourced from my stay in chicago...   Mar 13 2021, 02:31 PM
wonkipop   my 14 is american sourced from my stay in chicag...   Mar 14 2021, 03:44 AM
Tom_T   i have the NO branded XAS = tubeless. i did not...   Mar 14 2021, 04:52 PM
wonkipop   took some shots out at workshop today while attend...   Mar 15 2021, 05:16 AM
23e Heure   PS: Ian: sorry for hijacking your thread!   Mar 15 2021, 01:13 PM
9146-racer   No Worries James   Mar 15 2021, 01:38 PM
Tom_T   No Worries James Thanx Ian! Is that ...   Mar 15 2021, 02:09 PM
9146-racer   Sorry guys, forgot to put a caption...... this is ...   Mar 15 2021, 01:48 PM
wonkipop   Sorry guys, forgot to put a caption...... this is...   Mar 16 2021, 02:46 AM
9146-racer   how they look today...   Mar 15 2021, 02:05 PM
ClayPerrine   Question on the pedals.... Why didn't they ju...   Mar 15 2021, 02:14 PM
wonkipop   Question on the pedals.... Why didn't they j...   Mar 15 2021, 02:33 PM
Tom_T   Even the LHD 914 pedals are small & tightly to...   Mar 15 2021, 02:42 PM
wonkipop   Even the LHD 914 pedals are small & tightly t...   Mar 15 2021, 02:54 PM
Tom_T   think the germans thought corrective leg surgery ...   Mar 16 2021, 12:19 PM
Maltese Falcon   Right Hand Steering !   Jul 3 2021, 01:07 PM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   worth what a similar condition 914 is worth but on...   Jul 3 2021, 01:14 PM


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