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RHD 914, what's value of a rhd 914 |
9146-racer |
Mar 6 2021, 09:55 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 20 Joined: 4-September 20 From: hampshire uk Member No.: 24,659 Region Association: None |
Hi, I haven't been on here for ages, sorry to have missed you all.
I have just been reading an article on the RHD Crayford cars and really would appreciate a value for one. My car is a 1969 Crayford, in fact I understand it to be the first one ever. I've owned it for about 30 years and now am considering parting with it, but what's it worth? Attached thumbnail(s) |
wonkipop |
Mar 10 2021, 04:03 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,372 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
the angst about the pedals is real.
if any of you ever got the chance to drive a lhd 911 and then hop straight into a rhd 911 you would instantly understand. it all feels right in a lhd 911. you stretch out for the gas pedal left hand drive and you punch the clutch straight out in front. the pedals are skewed but it suits LHD. (same goes for a 914 lhd). imagine stretching your leg to punch the clutch where the gas pedal is! a 911 is narrower than a 914 and the skewed business is "manageable". its even more skewed in a 914. study some photos of the pedals in lhd 911s compared to rhd 911s. you will see what i mean. in a rhd 911 the brake and clutch pedals are really close together. in a lhd they are spread apart and the brake pedal is close to the accelerator pedal. so its not good to just stick a rhd 911 pedal cluster into a rhd 914. crayfords cut the brake pedal as far as we could tell and welded a piece to extend it across to the right and get it closer to the accelerator pedal. the porsche factory should have taken a close look at what they did. it was a bunch of right hand drive country engineers making a critique of the job the lhd drive country did producing rhd cars (ie their rhd 911s). even today i see rhd 911s in aus that guys have done all sorts of work to the pedals on to try and get a level of comfort that suits their style. converting to rhd was not simply a matter of reproducing the lhd dimensions. things change when you go to the other side of the car. and somehow crayfords got it right and they did this by adjusting things. i've sat in a few rhd 914s down here. i've sat in some that just make you wonder what was going through the head of the person who did it. and what went wrong? the crayfords cars feel natural and right. because of that they are the template. not that anyone is ever going to do it ever again. |
Tom_T |
Mar 10 2021, 11:35 AM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California |
the angst about the pedals is real. if any of you ever got the chance to drive a lhd 911 and then hop straight into a rhd 911 you would instantly understand. it all feels right in a lhd 911. you stretch out for the gas pedal left hand drive and you punch the clutch straight out in front. the pedals are skewed but it suits LHD. (same goes for a 914 lhd). imagine stretching your leg to punch the clutch where the gas pedal is! a 911 is narrower than a 914 and the skewed business is "manageable". its even more skewed in a 914. study some photos of the pedals in lhd 911s compared to rhd 911s. you will see what i mean. in a rhd 911 the brake and clutch pedals are really close together. in a lhd they are spread apart and the brake pedal is close to the accelerator pedal. so its not good to just stick a rhd 911 pedal cluster into a rhd 914. crayfords cut the brake pedal as far as we could tell and welded a piece to extend it across to the right and get it closer to the accelerator pedal. the porsche factory should have taken a close look at what they did. it was a bunch of right hand drive country engineers making a critique of the job the lhd drive country did producing rhd cars (ie their rhd 911s). even today i see rhd 911s in aus that guys have done all sorts of work to the pedals on to try and get a level of comfort that suits their style. converting to rhd was not simply a matter of reproducing the lhd dimensions. things change when you go to the other side of the car. and somehow crayfords got it right and they did this by adjusting things. i've sat in a few rhd 914s down here. i've sat in some that just make you wonder what was going through the head of the person who did it. and what went wrong? the crayfords cars feel natural and right. because of that they are the template. not that anyone is ever going to do it ever again. Wonki - It's nice to have another member with the passion for sharing info & details and for sharing them on here! Thanx & keep up the info flow! You may have noted my "TMI...." at my avatar. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Now if you were also a fellow Rugger.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon_bump.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/teef.gif) Cheers Mate! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Tom /////// |
wonkipop |
Mar 10 2021, 03:58 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,372 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
the angst about the pedals is real. if any of you ever got the chance to drive a lhd 911 and then hop straight into a rhd 911 you would instantly understand. it all feels right in a lhd 911. you stretch out for the gas pedal left hand drive and you punch the clutch straight out in front. the pedals are skewed but it suits LHD. (same goes for a 914 lhd). imagine stretching your leg to punch the clutch where the gas pedal is! a 911 is narrower than a 914 and the skewed business is "manageable". its even more skewed in a 914. study some photos of the pedals in lhd 911s compared to rhd 911s. you will see what i mean. in a rhd 911 the brake and clutch pedals are really close together. in a lhd they are spread apart and the brake pedal is close to the accelerator pedal. so its not good to just stick a rhd 911 pedal cluster into a rhd 914. crayfords cut the brake pedal as far as we could tell and welded a piece to extend it across to the right and get it closer to the accelerator pedal. the porsche factory should have taken a close look at what they did. it was a bunch of right hand drive country engineers making a critique of the job the lhd drive country did producing rhd cars (ie their rhd 911s). even today i see rhd 911s in aus that guys have done all sorts of work to the pedals on to try and get a level of comfort that suits their style. converting to rhd was not simply a matter of reproducing the lhd dimensions. things change when you go to the other side of the car. and somehow crayfords got it right and they did this by adjusting things. i've sat in a few rhd 914s down here. i've sat in some that just make you wonder what was going through the head of the person who did it. and what went wrong? the crayfords cars feel natural and right. because of that they are the template. not that anyone is ever going to do it ever again. Wonki - It's nice to have another member with the passion for sharing info & details and for sharing them on here! Thanx & keep up the info flow! You may have noted my "TMI...." at my avatar. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Now if you were also a fellow Rugger.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon_bump.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/teef.gif) Cheers Mate! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Tom /////// aussie rules down here in oz-mexico, old game is played north of the murray river. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) |
Tom_T |
Mar 10 2021, 04:12 PM
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TMI.... Group: Members Posts: 8,318 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California |
aussie rules down here in oz-mexico, old game is played north of the murray river. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) I had played your Footie Cousin - Gaelic Football, a few times back in college 1970-74 when playing Soccer (Football) with the Irish Rovers Athletic Club in the LA Area. But they frowned on too much contact, as did Soccer & your Footie. So I was never inclined to try Footie - although there is/was a local Footie Club here in Orange County CA, nor to continue playing Soccer nor Gaelic Football after college. But I did continue playing Rugby Union for 26 years from collegiate thru our Div 1 Club & Grad School, then Old Boyz 1970-96. I just preferred the more physical XVs - even over our American Football that I'd played age 7-17 high school. Your post info didn't say where in OZ you're at, but SW-OZ makes sense for Footie. Gotta love those all too serious about themselves guys in white coats & hats pointing for scores! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Tom /////// |
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