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> 914 transmission corvair engine, will these work together ????? how?
goobstine
post Mar 27 2021, 02:50 AM
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will the monza corsa corvair 6 cyl air cooled engine work with a stock 914 transmission. ( not mount it is already mounted with adapter plate ) it is my understanding corvair engine rotates counter clockwise. How could this possibly operate with a stock 914 transmission? I have the transmission out of the car is there any way to check the rotation of the trans gears and things to see if i am getting the correct rotation out of my trans in a reverse fashion for the corvair counter clockwise action i will be receiving.
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QUOTE(goobstine @ Mar 27 2021, 03:50 AM) *

will the monza corsa corvair 6 cyl air cooled engine work with a stock 914 transmission. ( not mount it is already mounted with adapter plate ) it is my understanding corvair engine rotates counter clockwise. How could this possibly operate with a stock 914 transmission? I have the transmission out of the car is there any way to check the rotation of the trans gears and things to see if i am getting the correct rotation out of my trans in a reverse fashion for the corvair counter clockwise action i will be receiving. any help would be appreciated.



There are companies that make (made) reverse rotation camshafts for Corvair engines. That is the proper way to put a Corvair engine against a 914 transmission.

Others will tell you to just flip the ring and pinion in the transmission. But that is a bad idea. The 901 transmission uses helical cut gears inside it to reduce noise. Whenever helical cut gears are used, the "climb" against each other, putting thrust loads on the shafts. That load is transferred to the transmission case. If you reverse the rotation of the input shaft, you will reverse the "climb" of the gears. And that reverses the thrust loads on the transmission case. The engineers that designed the transmission did not provide thrust bearings for the reversed load. So now the transmission is running thrust loads against the magnesium case without the proper thrust bearings. This drastically shortens the life of the transmission.

I hope that helps.

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QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Mar 27 2021, 05:54 AM) *

QUOTE(goobstine @ Mar 27 2021, 03:50 AM) *

will the monza corsa corvair 6 cyl air cooled engine work with a stock 914 transmission. ( not mount it is already mounted with adapter plate ) it is my understanding corvair engine rotates counter clockwise. How could this possibly operate with a stock 914 transmission? I have the transmission out of the car is there any way to check the rotation of the trans gears and things to see if i am getting the correct rotation out of my trans in a reverse fashion for the corvair counter clockwise action i will be receiving. any help would be appreciated.



There are companies that make (made) reverse rotation camshafts for Corvair engines. That is the proper way to put a Corvair engine against a 914 transmission.

Others will tell you to just flip the ring and pinion in the transmission. But that is a bad idea. The 901 transmission uses helical cut gears inside it to reduce noise. Whenever helical cut gears are used, the "climb" against each other, putting thrust loads on the shafts. That load is transferred to the transmission case. If you reverse the rotation of the input shaft, you will reverse the "climb" of the gears. And that reverses the thrust loads on the transmission case. The engineers that designed the transmission did not provide thrust bearings for the reversed load. So now the transmission is running thrust loads against the magnesium case without the proper thrust bearings. This drastically shortens the life of the transmission.

I hope that helps.

Clay

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goobstine   914 transmission corvair engine   Mar 27 2021, 02:50 AM
ClayPerrine   will the monza corsa corvair 6 cyl air cooled eng...   Mar 27 2021, 04:54 AM
goobstine   will the monza corsa corvair 6 cyl air cooled en...   Mar 28 2021, 03:58 AM
Mark Henry   If I was looking to do a different engine it would...   Mar 27 2021, 05:33 AM
goobstine   If I was looking to do a different engine it woul...   Mar 28 2021, 04:25 AM
rgalla9146   If I was looking to do a different engine it wou...   Mar 28 2021, 05:55 AM
Mark Henry   [quote name='goobstine' post='2903436' date='Mar ...   Mar 28 2021, 07:25 AM
goobstine   [quote name='goobstine' post='2903436' date='Mar ...   Mar 29 2021, 09:36 AM
ClayPerrine   [quote name='goobstine' post='2903436' date='Mar...   Mar 29 2021, 11:23 AM
KELTY360   If I was looking to do a different engine it wou...   Mar 28 2021, 11:44 AM
clarkcou   If I was looking to do a different engine it wou...   Mar 28 2021, 09:11 PM
goobstine   [quote name='Mark Henry' post='29031...   Mar 29 2021, 09:30 AM
jfort   I do not need or want your advise or comments ever...   Mar 29 2021, 12:37 PM
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rhodyguy   OH MY!   Mar 28 2021, 11:43 AM
rhodyguy   Just put Mark on ignore if his comments are unwelc...   Mar 28 2021, 11:53 AM
sixnotfour   Back in the Day ...Allot of ring gears got flipped...   Mar 28 2021, 12:28 PM
goobstine   Back in the Day ...Allot of ring gears got flippe...   Mar 29 2021, 09:23 AM
gandalf_025   I’m pretty sure if you flip the differential on ...   Mar 28 2021, 02:14 PM
goobstine   I’m pretty sure if you flip the differential on...   Mar 29 2021, 09:18 AM
Front yard mechanic   Save the corvair :barf: it's not worthy in a 9...   Mar 28 2021, 02:24 PM
rhodyguy   Well? You're watching. Not OP.   Mar 29 2021, 09:33 AM
rhodyguy   You're only making the matter worse. Name call...   Mar 29 2021, 09:46 AM
914werke   :popcorn:   Mar 29 2021, 12:29 PM
rhodyguy   'Has' one if we're being picky. And sk...   Mar 29 2021, 12:44 PM
oakdalecurtis   RE: 914 transmission corvair engine   Mar 29 2021, 01:24 PM
pcdarks   Interesting to see I'm not the only one to get...   Mar 29 2021, 02:05 PM
flippa   :huh: Good luck with your build   Mar 29 2021, 05:41 PM
SirAndy   What the hell did i just walk into? :blink:   Mar 29 2021, 06:24 PM
VegasRacer   What the hell did i just walk into? :blink: Co...   Mar 29 2021, 06:42 PM
flat4guy   OTTO used to make a kit to mate a corvair 6 with a...   Mar 29 2021, 06:32 PM
73-914   Me thinks people have been locked in their houses ...   Mar 29 2021, 06:51 PM
rhodyguy   Interesting to see I'm not the only one to ge...   Mar 30 2021, 09:17 AM
mb911   :idea:   Mar 30 2021, 10:00 AM
brant   a slow car wreck.... all of these threads are opi...   Mar 30 2021, 10:05 AM
Shivers   Barfing cats. lol, it's nice to be home.   Mar 30 2021, 10:16 AM
bretth   Geese people being triggered by so many things out...   Mar 30 2021, 12:31 PM
rjames   Geese people being triggered by so many things ou...   Mar 30 2021, 02:16 PM
Chris914n6   You want to put 1950s GM engine tech into a Porsch...   Mar 30 2021, 05:42 PM
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