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AmblerEV
post May 16 2021, 05:03 AM
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Ambler EV is going to officially unveil our full 914 electric conversion at our grand opening June 5, 207 & 211 South Main Street, Ambler PA. For those of you in the Philadelphia area, stop by and see the future. For those of you outside the Philadelphia area, follow our page on Facebook to see more teasers as the day get closer www.facebook.com/Amblerev. For those of you attempting this yourself, I am happy to talk end specs but questions about components used or design will not be answered (EV West is your source for that). If you are interested in buying a full electric 914 (or converting your 914 roller) so that it can handle level 2 charging, has a range over 200 miles, and will no longer contain any vacuum or 40 year old EFI electronics, stop by or email me at sam@amblerev.com.
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post May 25 2021, 12:52 AM
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I believe the range issues will be mitigated with the deployment of quantum/glass batteries ... estimated to extend the range of a Tesla Model-3 to 1,000 miles.

Will be interesting to see how that pans out (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
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post May 25 2021, 11:28 PM
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QUOTE(euro911 @ May 24 2021, 11:52 PM) *

I believe the range issues will be mitigated with the deployment of quantum/glass batteries ... estimated to extend the range of a Tesla Model-3 to 1,000 miles.

Will be interesting to see how that pans out (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)


We have already seen that type of range increase in the last 15 years. The GM EV1 had a range of around 80 miles when it came out in the mid-late to 90's. If you put it the same weight of modern batteries it would have over 700 miles of range. Nothing really happened between the EV1 and the Tesla roadster.

In my 914 which has been electric for over 25 years, the school that converted had to use big old heavy lead acid batteries adding about 1500 pounds. Considering the weight off the engine gas tank and other parts that was removed, half the car weight was batteries at the time. There was batteries everywhere in place of the engine, the gas tank, the front trunk. The rear trunk was filled with the controller, relays, shunts, fuses. It might of had 50-60 miles of range. Now I have second generation Chevy Volt batteries which are 7 year old battery tech at this point. I have a bank in the front in place of the tank. and a second back laid out flat in the rear trunk just so I can drive and test things as I fit everything back in the engine bay. It has the same range as the the old lead acid batteries the whole car is sitting at 1700 pounds.
My plan is to have four banks total three in the engine bay around the motor and transaxle and one in the front. It will have about 124 miles of range. The weight and balance should within 50 pounds of a stock 6.

If I wanted to spend the money on brand new batteries (16K) I could bump that range to around 265 miles. The weight would go up 200 pounds.

Batteries get about 10 lighter, have 10 percent more power, and keep dropping in price, in every generation of batteries. So many people are working on this now a generation is about 18 months.

In 5-6 years an electric Cayman might be out, maybe I will switch to that drivetrain and batteries.

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It has the same range as the the old lead acid batteries the whole car is sitting at 1700 pounds.
My plan is to have four banks total three in the engine bay around the motor and transaxle and one in the front. It will have about 124 miles of range. The weight and balance should within 50 pounds of a stock 6.

In 5-6 years an electric Cayman might be out, maybe I will switch to that drivetrain and batteries.

There is no way your 914 EV weights 300lbs less than stock when the engine and full gas tank weigh 400lbs.

So how much will the Box EV swap cost per saved gram of co2? Not to rain on your parade but you spend major money on a minor improvement, or a zero improvement on a national scale.

My Nissan swap passes OBD2 smog standards, gets 300-400 miles per tank, refills in minutes and allows me to do 914 driving events. At less than 5000 miles per year has no effect on co2 levels.
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AmblerEV   914 Electric Conversion   May 16 2021, 05:03 AM
mepstein   :wttc:   May 16 2021, 07:07 AM
914forme   :wttc: *************** Deleted for being rude ***...   May 16 2021, 11:47 AM
JeffBowlsby   :driving:   May 16 2021, 12:54 PM
914forme   @AmblerEV good luck with your launch wish you the...   May 16 2021, 06:36 PM
Spoke   They have a video on Youtube from a year ago. The...   May 17 2021, 06:05 AM
914e   They have a video on Youtube from a year ago. Th...   May 17 2021, 11:03 AM
Steve   They have a video on Youtube from a year ago. T...   May 17 2021, 01:27 PM
914e   [quote name='914e' post='2916559' date='May 17 20...   May 17 2021, 05:16 PM
Big Len   [quote name='914e' post='2916559' date='May 17 2...   May 17 2021, 06:39 PM
914e   [quote name='914e' post='2916637' date='May 17 20...   May 17 2021, 08:21 PM
Big Len   [quote name='914e' post='2916637' date='May 17 2...   May 17 2021, 09:04 PM
914e   [quote name='914e' post='2916687' date='May 17 20...   May 18 2021, 12:21 AM
Chris914n6   If you wanted to preserve the rare engine, but st...   May 18 2021, 03:18 AM
Steve   [quote name='914e' post='2916559' date='May 17 2...   May 17 2021, 09:34 PM
SirAndy   [quote name='Spoke' post='2916500' date='May 17 20...   May 17 2021, 01:51 PM
nditiz1   60-70 mph top speed??? This won't even be abl...   May 17 2021, 09:43 AM
Chris914n6   66 lbft of torque and we think a 1.7L is slow. ...   May 17 2021, 02:24 PM
RolinkHaus   There’s so many things I would like to say and c...   May 17 2021, 03:21 PM
mrholland2   I haven't seen any current specs for the propo...   May 17 2021, 03:23 PM
76-914   You asked the same questions lingering in the back...   May 17 2021, 03:30 PM
Craigers17   Not sure why the electric car discussions are alwa...   May 18 2021, 03:07 AM
RolinkHaus   We purists just don't like our beautiful Germa...   May 18 2021, 04:36 AM
flipb   Geez, people get their panties in a wad. The 914 ...   May 18 2021, 05:29 AM
sechszylinder   It is always the same misery with these EV convers...   May 18 2021, 07:09 AM
mate914   Make sure you use a good old East coast car for yo...   May 18 2021, 07:45 AM
Shivers   "If you wanted to preserve the rare engine, b...   May 18 2021, 07:49 AM
bbrock   :rotfl: Every time one of these threads pops up, m...   May 18 2021, 08:03 AM
914e   :rotfl: Every time one of these threads pops up, ...   May 24 2021, 11:37 PM
Shivers   "What I'm hearing is that for $40K w...   May 18 2021, 08:33 AM
mepstein   Some people are able to get around in an electric ...   May 18 2021, 08:47 AM
bbrock   For fun I found this list of real world range test...   May 18 2021, 01:51 PM
Shivers   "There are variables simply out of our contro...   May 18 2021, 04:21 PM
bbrock   "There are variables simply out of our contr...   May 18 2021, 05:18 PM
Superhawk996   "There are variables simply out of our cont...   May 18 2021, 05:51 PM
bbrock   Big difference when you can find fuel for an ICE ...   May 18 2021, 06:07 PM
mgarrison   I'm not against electric cars or conversions, ...   May 18 2021, 04:57 PM
Root_Werks   Had a Tesla Roadster a few years back. Cool car a...   May 18 2021, 05:09 PM
MM1   Had a Tesla Roadster a few years back. Cool car ...   May 18 2021, 05:45 PM
SirAndy   Another interesting bit of information: - The OP ...   May 18 2021, 05:45 PM
Superhawk996   Another interesting bit of information: - The OP...   May 18 2021, 05:58 PM
914forme   Another interesting bit of information: - The OP...   May 18 2021, 07:15 PM
Rand   There has been history here, including Otmar. But ...   May 18 2021, 06:04 PM
wonkipop   hard-line pressure is building here in aus to foll...   May 18 2021, 07:24 PM
Rand   It's all arguments. I have no doubt electric ...   May 18 2021, 07:29 PM
wonkipop   It's all arguments. I have no doubt electric...   May 18 2021, 07:42 PM
bbrock   [quote name='Rand' post='2916931' date='May 18 20...   May 18 2021, 08:02 PM
wonkipop   [quote name='Rand' post='2916931' date='May 18 2...   May 19 2021, 02:43 AM
Rand   Of course EVs have less carbon emissions. We are s...   May 18 2021, 09:13 PM
bbrock   Of course EVs have less carbon emissions. We are ...   May 18 2021, 09:47 PM
euro911   I believe the range issues will be mitigated with ...   May 25 2021, 12:52 AM
914e   I believe the range issues will be mitigated with...   May 25 2021, 11:28 PM
Chris914n6   It has the same range as the the old lead acid b...   May 26 2021, 02:18 PM
Big Len   Let's suppose I buy 2 914's in similar con...   May 25 2021, 07:50 AM
bbrock   Let's suppose I buy 2 914's in similar co...   May 25 2021, 08:10 AM
ClayPerrine   If I ever win the lottery, I will take a 914 chass...   May 25 2021, 08:30 AM
wonkipop   If I ever win the lottery, I will take a 914 chas...   May 26 2021, 01:59 AM
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mepstein   A friend of mine sent me a picture of me sitting ...   May 25 2021, 11:04 AM
Dave_Darling   Anybody who is driving a sports car for "cost...   May 26 2021, 09:05 PM
GeorgeRud   I‘d love to see a bolt in Tesla conversion (as h...   May 27 2021, 09:06 AM


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