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> 73 914 2.0 salvage title, Need help on pricing this for sale
moshman53
post Sep 23 2021, 12:32 PM
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Greetings!
I’ve owned this ‘73 since 2000 and have looked after it as a daily driver for years. It’s now time to let it go. I initially never had concerns with a Salvage Title, but now realize just how important it is and that it’ll never really go away.

1973 Porsche 914 2.0
- Salvage Title -
Purchased in 2000 for $5,000
84,000 miles
Vin Numbers match throughout.
Delphi Green Metallic (repainted, with original color)
Vinyl-covered roll bar
Dual horns
Chrome bumpers
Fog lights
5 1/2" X 15 Fuchs wheels
165/15 tires
Leather-covered steering wheel and shift knob
Center Console
Center arm rest with storage compartment

Original Blaupunkt Radio

Dual Weber Carb installed (saved original D-Jet too.)
Engine runs great
Transmission solid
Brakes solid

Moderate rust, but nothing structural except the Left Rocker Panel - rust from battery
Seats have torn/broken vinyl

I’m reaching out for some creative feedback regarding what I might ask for this car…or more importantly, what I might get for this car!

Thanks In advance!!

Mōsh in Durango



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post Sep 23 2021, 02:19 PM
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Why did it get a salvaged title?

What is the extent of the issues now?

I feel like this is becoming more of a moot point given the number of cars that have had the majority of their parts replaced and chassis rebuilt from swiss cheese rusted hulks. Unless you are talking about the high value, low mile barn finds I generally look at a 914 as the value of the sum its parts.

If what you have is solid, doesn't really matter what is written on a piece of paper.
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post Sep 23 2021, 02:25 PM
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QUOTE(JamesM @ Sep 23 2021, 04:19 PM) *

I feel like this is becoming more of a moot point given the number of cars that have had the majority of their parts replaced and chassis rebuilt from swiss cheese rusted hulks.

EXACTLY what I came here to post.

But with the whole "concourse" thing going strong (and we allowing it to infect us) someone is surely going to complain about a dented-fender salvage-title car being less worthy than a clean-title massive rustoration...because they just don't know.

Oh well.
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post Sep 23 2021, 02:50 PM
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QUOTE(GregAmy @ Sep 23 2021, 01:25 PM) *

QUOTE(JamesM @ Sep 23 2021, 04:19 PM) *

I feel like this is becoming more of a moot point given the number of cars that have had the majority of their parts replaced and chassis rebuilt from swiss cheese rusted hulks.

EXACTLY what I came here to post.

But with the whole "concourse" thing going strong (and we allowing it to infect us) someone is surely going to complain about a dented-fender salvage-title car being less worthy than a clean-title massive rustoration...because they just don't know.

Oh well.


I collect and trade in vintage guitars. This shit started happening to that industry in the 90s with the advent of the big dick-weasel named George Gruhn.

Gruhn started coming up with a heap of things that would cause instruments to lose value. Many of them are valid, some are just cork-sniffing nonsense, like re-fretting the instrument (think of that as putting new brakes in a car), or a replaced input jack, etc. The problem is, I've encountered a great number of times when Gruhn is outright INCORRECT about his assessments, but because he established a name for himself, nobody questioned it. Gruhn is an arrogant prick.

A lot of this has fallen off to the wayside as bullshit in the last decade, but a refinished guitar loses half the value almost off the bat. A guitar with a broken headstock that's been masterfully repaired again is 50%. However, a refinished + broken guitar will go for about the same price as one which only has one of the two problems...

The difficulty is that in the 60s and 70s, when these guitars were still relatively young, many people would just do things to them without thinking. Rout out neck pockets to fit larger pickups, or "fix" a guitar that's been scratched or legitimately road-worn by repainting it. Today, that shit is considered bad ju-ju and "ruins" the value.

I have a 1963 Gibson Firebird VII. One of twenty Firebird VIIs made in that year. Depending on which way the wind blows, this instrument can fetch between $15k and $20k. I opted to re-fret the guitar this year because I don't plan on selling it until I'm an old geezer. By then, if we still have an economy, it'll be worth a fucking mint.

The point of my story is, of course, that all of this cork-sniffing BS about a car being worth less is a load of garbage ready to be taken out to the curb. If your car is solid, runs well, looks good, and most importantly, makes you happy, screw all that bullshit.

/rant mode off.
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QUOTE(LefthandRev @ Sep 23 2021, 04:50 PM) *
If your car is solid, runs well, looks good, and most importantly, makes you happy, screw all that bullshit.

Amen. Because unless you're dick-weasel George Gruhn trying to flip guitars for money, instead choosing to be someone who wants to play a classic guitar, then it just doesn't matter.

Right now the 914 community is slowly being lured into ridiculousness by the George Gruhns. This is not why we have these cars.

So don't let it infect you. Go buy a nice re-fretted guitar and enjoy playing it well.

GA



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post Sep 23 2021, 03:41 PM
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QUOTE(GregAmy @ Sep 23 2021, 01:55 PM) *


Right now the 914 community is slowly being lured into ridiculousness by the George Gruhns. This is not why we have these cars.

So don't let it infect you. Go buy a nice re-fretted guitar and enjoy playing it well.

GA


Yeppers.

Although, I will admit that I am fond of my vintage instruments and haven't played a new guitar I liked. It's like new cars... you either pay through the nose to get one that doesn't suck, or... get an old one. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

'63 Firebird VII, '64 Firebird III, '64 Firebird I - equivalent to a 914/6, a 1.8L and a 1.7L. Still hoping to get a Firebird V one day. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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moshman53   73 914 2.0 salvage title   Sep 23 2021, 12:32 PM
FRUNKenstein   As a general rule of thumb, a salvage title will r...   Sep 23 2021, 01:00 PM
Front yard mechanic   When was it salvaged and why makes a little bit o...   Sep 23 2021, 01:22 PM
moshman53   When was it salvaged and why makes a little bit ...   Sep 23 2021, 01:34 PM
JamesM   Why did it get a salvaged title? What is the ex...   Sep 23 2021, 02:19 PM
GregAmy   I feel like this is becoming more of a moot point...   Sep 23 2021, 02:25 PM
LefthandRev   [quote name='JamesM' post='2947675' date='Sep 23 ...   Sep 23 2021, 02:50 PM
GregAmy   If your car is solid, runs well, looks good, and m...   Sep 23 2021, 02:55 PM
LefthandRev   Right now the 914 community is slowly being lure...   Sep 23 2021, 03:41 PM
moshman53   Why did it get a salvaged title? What is the e...   Sep 23 2021, 02:43 PM
burlybryan   I don't know how my car doesn't have a sal...   Sep 23 2021, 02:39 PM
rick 918-S   You have to understand something. 30 years ago. ...   Sep 23 2021, 02:53 PM
mepstein   Pics of rust?   Sep 23 2021, 03:43 PM
moshman53   Pics of rust? Can do…tomorrow!   Sep 23 2021, 05:08 PM
moshman53   Pics of rust? Got it pulled together - take a l...   Sep 23 2021, 06:31 PM
Cairo94507   So, OP, are you guessing it was salvaged due to a ...   Sep 23 2021, 04:19 PM
Mikey914   The amount and location of rust will be a MUCH lar...   Sep 23 2021, 04:36 PM
mepstein   Without seeing the rust, I think it’s more of a ...   Sep 23 2021, 04:37 PM
mepstein   The front cowl rust is bad. That’s a pita spot t...   Sep 23 2021, 07:02 PM
moshman53   The front cowl rust is bad. That’s a pita spot ...   Sep 23 2021, 07:06 PM
bbrock   The front cowl rust is bad. That’s a pita spot...   Sep 24 2021, 09:59 AM
930cabman   This looks like significant rusting, not a high do...   Sep 24 2021, 04:59 AM
Unobtanium-inc   Here is the trick with a car with salvage history,...   Sep 27 2021, 11:12 AM


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