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Euro turn indicators |
MR914-Germany |
Oct 26 2021, 01:26 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: 25-October 21 From: Germany Member No.: 26,019 Region Association: None |
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GregAmy |
Oct 29 2021, 07:02 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,311 Joined: 22-February 13 From: Middletown CT Member No.: 15,565 Region Association: North East States |
Ok, I'll bite...what's the difference?
And why? |
wonkipop |
Oct 29 2021, 11:34 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,403 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
Ok, I'll bite...what's the difference? And why? USA side marker lights were required to be passive reflectors as well as illuminated lights. the prismatic moulding is a reflector prism and not a diffusing prism. same goes for tailights for USA cars - red side portion is non prismatic ("clear") red. illuminated at night. the passive reflector part is the thin band of horizontal prismatic reflector lines visible up the side (i think). someone could correct me if i am wrong, the passive reflector could have been in behind as part of the tailight body? euro tail lense is overall prismatic diffusor in the amber side section so it works as an indicator visible at the sides as well as rear but not as a passive reflector. its the wrong color to be a passive reflector. passive rear reflector must be red for europe, uk, j and aus. that red reflector is the small one next to the reversing light. the usa has very different light set up regs when compared to the rest of the world. the fluted amber wart was fitted to J spec cars as it was a requirement in J for an indicator to be visible on the side of the car (for expressway lane changing). i've seen photos of different J 914s that show a variety of side indicator lights (warts). the original tokyo motor show car had very small circular side lights. hard to know it that was a porsche factory set up or something installed in J by the distributor. would have been the first car into J and very early on. a 6 in tokyo. possibly a euro spec car privately imported and fitted with aftermarket side indicators? early on one of the original assessment 914/6s delivered to aus distributor came via J distributor and was fitted with amber fluted indicator warts similar/same as italy spec. |
italux |
Nov 17 2021, 02:24 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 19-October 20 From: Italy Member No.: 24,779 Region Association: Europe |
same goes for tailights for USA cars - red side portion is non prismatic ("clear") red. illuminated at night. the passive reflector part is the thin band of horizontal prismatic reflector lines visible up the side (i think). someone could correct me if i am wrong, the passive reflector could have been in behind as part of the tailight body? yes, you are right. The US version of the taillight has an inner reflex-reflctor on the side, positioned exactly under the smooth non-prismatic part of the red lens. The reflector is missing in the light you posted. |
wonkipop |
Nov 17 2021, 02:40 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,403 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
same goes for tailights for USA cars - red side portion is non prismatic ("clear") red. illuminated at night. the passive reflector part is the thin band of horizontal prismatic reflector lines visible up the side (i think). someone could correct me if i am wrong, the passive reflector could have been in behind as part of the tailight body? yes, you are right. The US version of the taillight has an inner reflex-reflctor on the side, positioned exactly under the smooth non-prismatic part of the red lens. The reflector is missing in the light you posted. its probably still in behind the euro lens in the photo @italux ? those are my original USA taillight bodies (w/modified wiring) fitted with euro lenses. trying to remember how it worked in the USA. side red sections that wrap around are the red tailights on all the time that flash only to indicate? brake lights are the section of red between that and reverse lights and are not on at night except when you brake? its a long time ago. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) in australia (also euro setup). the little red section is on at night as the tail light and glow brighter with the brakes. the amber indicator only comes on when you indicate and is never on with the tail lights except when used. |
italux |
Nov 17 2021, 08:39 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 3 Joined: 19-October 20 From: Italy Member No.: 24,779 Region Association: Europe |
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its probably still in behind the euro lens in the photo @italux ? those are my original USA taillight bodies (w/modified wiring) fitted with euro lenses. [/quote] It is possible, but it is not visible as the amber lens sector is prismed. What I see is the red US version that is clearly without the internal reflector. |
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