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914/4: 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 914/6: 70 71 72
| Clubsport32 |
Nov 7 2021, 01:13 AM
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 21-January 20 From: United Kingdom Member No.: 23,849 Region Association: None |
Hi All
Have seen this on an unrestored car…does anybody have anymore details…? I assume the 022 refers to the 1.7L but what about the other number? Any insight would be appreciated…thanks Andy Attached thumbnail(s) |
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| wonkipop |
Nov 22 2021, 10:40 PM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,210 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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SUMMARY OF POSITIONS OF VACUUM HOSES BY EXPERTS.
This helps summarise what can be known with some certainty about the variable vacuum hose layouts. Version 1. the late Cap'n Krusty. credentials are impeccable. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) he states both ports on dist connected to both ports on TB. both ports on TB are opened up in casting. he lives and works in california. he works on a 1.8 L jet before it hits the showrooms. see posts extracted from thread date (2010) he is seeing cali cars from the start - they are as per wonki, starbear and van b. EC-B (California and EPA emissions sticker). Version 2. Clay Perrine. credentials impeccable. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) he states only the retard vac port on dist is connected to retard vac port on TB. advance port on TB is capped/closed. retard port is opened up and connected to retard on dist. vacuum advance line on dist is on but tucked under dist and left open. see posts extracted from thread date (2019) Dr. 914 backs this up. he'd know. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) adds that version 2 comes into effect jan 01 74. versions 1 are being made after jan 01 74 so does not necessarily supersede. this would fit with marathon blue car = EC-A. EC-A is California and EPA emissions sticker. Fits with marathon blue car idle tune sticker though not with hose layout now on car in photos. Version 3. others claim there is a TB with an open advance port and a closed retard port. only the advance on the distributor is hooked up to TB. in this type the retard hose is fitted to the distributor and is tucked underneath. though it looked like zonedoubt's car is a 75 and has a 067C TB. however there is an image of a 067A TB with the same configuration so they likely do exist in 74. ![]() -------- There is known to be an EC-B emission sticker and it is only 49 states / EPA. Not california certified. At present i cannot link it to any of the three versions. There would be a idle tune sticker to go with it showing only a hose to right of dist on tune up sticker if version 3 is EC-B 49 states? --------- Below images of what each version of TB would look like. I have seen images of version 1 and version 3. I have not seen images of version 2. i'm guessing its advance port is blocked or capped somehow. ![]() Attached image(s)
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Clubsport32 Tinware writing Nov 7 2021, 01:13 AM
davep I think most engines had the markings. With all th... Nov 7 2021, 06:22 AM
StarBear Those number are quite different than any I’ve s... Nov 10 2021, 08:02 PM
wonkipop sure look different to mine too.
mine probably loo... Nov 11 2021, 01:44 AM
StarBear This is what every one I've ever seen looks li... Nov 12 2021, 10:29 AM
wonkipop mine looks like that- sort of. number is 604 inst... Nov 12 2021, 04:15 PM
StarBear There was a thread a few months ago. Might make se... Nov 12 2021, 06:04 PM
davep I do not believe these were stenciled; it looks mo... Nov 12 2021, 09:49 PM
wonkipop
I do not believe these were stenciled; it looks m... Nov 13 2021, 01:34 AM
StarBear Wow! How do you find this stuff? Great job; ke... Nov 13 2021, 06:55 AM
wonkipop its part of my real job - historical research.
we... Nov 13 2021, 03:24 PM
JeffBowlsby I have a good colleciotn of these on my webpage. ... Nov 13 2021, 03:39 PM
JeffBowlsby According to my list:
604 is a 1974 1.8L, but I d... Nov 13 2021, 03:49 PM
wonkipop
According to my list:
604 is a 1974 1.8L, but I ... Nov 13 2021, 04:03 PM
wonkipop
According to my list:
604 is a 1974 1.8L, but I ... Nov 13 2021, 07:35 PM
JeffBowlsby
mr. b, whats the little silver sticker under the... Nov 13 2021, 08:46 PM
wonkipop
[quote name='wonkipop' post='2959676' date='Nov 1... Nov 13 2021, 09:06 PM
JeffBowlsby
an EC-A is a frunk can car with the porsche evap... Nov 13 2021, 11:04 PM
wonkipop
an EC-A is a frunk can car with the porsche eva... Nov 14 2021, 12:27 AM
wonkipop i've seen a snatch of footage where you can se... Nov 13 2021, 03:59 PM
wonkipop ok mr. b
mine is an EC-B on that sticker. jan 74... Nov 13 2021, 04:06 PM
StarBear Yep; just checked sticker: EC-B. States “Califor... Nov 13 2021, 05:48 PM
wonkipop
Yep; just checked sticker: EC-B. States “Califo... Nov 13 2021, 06:30 PM
StarBear
i really feel its a batching thing. but thats a... Nov 14 2021, 11:12 AM
StarBear Not sure. JEff’s first post indicates 605 EC-B i... Nov 13 2021, 05:53 PM
wonkipop @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu... Nov 13 2021, 07:23 PM
JeffBowlsby Tellin' yah all I know, which isn't sayin... Nov 13 2021, 08:38 PM
wonkipop mr b
was there any difference between a cali 2.0 ... Nov 13 2021, 09:16 PM
JeffBowlsby A conditional yes. Depends on how ‘engine’ is... Nov 13 2021, 09:45 PM
wonkipop
A conditional yes. Depends on how ‘engine’ i... Nov 14 2021, 12:36 AM
wonkipop fascinating.
there is nothing in the factory manu... Nov 13 2021, 10:23 PM
wonkipop ps
@JeffBowlsby .
i'm still looking at that ... Nov 14 2021, 12:33 AM
JeffBowlsby
ps
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.p... Nov 14 2021, 09:22 AM
wonkipop
ps
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.... Nov 14 2021, 02:08 PM
wonkipop ok
@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?... Nov 14 2021, 12:51 AM
JeffBowlsby Wonk,
That page from the 75 S&T manual also i... Nov 14 2021, 08:40 AM
wonkipop @JeffBowlsby
mr. b
i found this in factory manu... Nov 14 2021, 01:49 PM
StarBear Here's my engine bay sticker. Clean and clear.... Nov 14 2021, 04:02 PM
JeffBowlsby 1973 1.7L EB code has lower compression, to meet C... Nov 14 2021, 04:26 PM
wonkipop
1973 1.7L EB code has lower compression, to meet ... Nov 15 2021, 02:51 AM
wonkipop
1973 1.7L EB code has lower compression, to meet ... Nov 15 2021, 06:38 AM
JeffBowlsby 914 mysteries continue... Nov 15 2021, 07:27 AM
StarBear Good info. @wonkipop looks like your vin number ... Nov 15 2021, 07:58 AM
wonkipop
Good info. @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/in... Nov 15 2021, 08:17 PM
wonkipop @StarBear .
mine is 13361 for last 5 digits.
[b... Nov 15 2021, 06:23 PM
JeffBowlsby Wow...I think you are on to something. I dont knw... Nov 15 2021, 06:54 PM
StarBear
Wow...I think you are on to something. I dont kn... Nov 15 2021, 09:13 PM
wonkipop
Wow...I think you are on to something. I dont kn... Nov 15 2021, 11:19 PM
StarBear OK; Here are my "unmolested" 1.8L data:
... Nov 16 2021, 09:04 AM
wonkipop @StarBear . distributor superseded PN is handy i... Nov 16 2021, 02:55 PM
StarBear Yep; my TB is original. Curiosity is telling me to... Nov 16 2021, 03:48 PM
wonkipop
Yep; my TB is original. Curiosity is telling me t... Nov 16 2021, 04:36 PM
wonkipop @StarBear & [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com... Nov 17 2021, 02:14 AM
StarBear Awesome investigative work, @wonkipop !
Yep;... Nov 17 2021, 07:21 AM
wonkipop
Awesome investigative work, @[url=http://www.914... Nov 17 2021, 04:47 PM
StarBear Maybe that little “1” I saw was an “L”. Wi... Nov 17 2021, 05:02 PM
wonkipop
Maybe that little “1” I saw was an “L”. W... Nov 17 2021, 05:12 PM
StarBear
Maybe that little “1” I saw was an “L”. ... Nov 17 2021, 08:14 PM
wonkipop something i got to check is i swear i came across ... Nov 17 2021, 05:10 PM
wonkipop i had to reread up how VW parts numbers work again... Nov 17 2021, 09:42 PM
StarBear I wonder if (?) the other letters denote the secon... Nov 18 2021, 07:12 AM
wonkipop
I wonder if (?) the other letters denote the seco... Nov 18 2021, 04:47 PM
wonkipop @StarBear . you are right about letters being man... Nov 19 2021, 10:43 PM
wonkipop @JeffBowlsby .
there are plenty of threads you ca... Nov 19 2021, 10:49 PM
wonkipop @StarBear & [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com... Nov 19 2021, 11:15 PM
wonkipop @StarBear .
further thought on what the H on TB m... Nov 20 2021, 01:10 AM
wonkipop difference between a 74 1.8 throttle body and a 75... Nov 20 2021, 03:10 PM
wonkipop @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu... Nov 20 2021, 04:58 PM
wonkipop a bit more information re EC engines in USA cars.
... Nov 22 2021, 05:49 PM
wonkipop i did some more trawling through older car ads sti... Nov 22 2021, 06:35 PM
StarBear Hmmmm…. Thinking I should add the two unconnecte... Nov 23 2021, 07:38 AM
wonkipop @StarBear .
depends how fanatical you want to be a... Nov 23 2021, 03:42 PM
wonkipop last night i did a bit of reading up on 1973.
not... Nov 23 2021, 04:42 PM
StarBear My head and brain hurt….. :blink: Nov 23 2021, 06:59 PM
wonkipop @StarBear - not as much as mine did trying to wor... Nov 23 2021, 07:12 PM
wonkipop @StarBear
here is the quick summary version.
EC... Nov 23 2021, 08:16 PM
StarBear Yep; that sums it up nicely! Interested to see... Nov 24 2021, 07:52 AM
wonkipop
Yep; that sums it up nicely! Interested to se... Nov 24 2021, 02:26 PM
StarBear
[quote name='StarBear' post='2962122' date='Nov 2... Nov 24 2021, 03:12 PM
wonkipop @StarBear .
Found another one that was for sale a... Nov 24 2021, 05:06 PM
StarBear More interesting stuff.
Found the tuneup sticker t... Nov 24 2021, 05:37 PM
JeffBowlsby I dont, sorry. I right click alot and dont recall... Nov 24 2021, 06:00 PM
StarBear
I dont, sorry. I right click alot and dont recal... Nov 24 2021, 06:10 PM
wonkipop
I dont, sorry. I right click alot and dont recal... Nov 24 2021, 08:05 PM
wonkipop they draw both ports on the dizzy diagrams @StarB... Nov 24 2021, 07:56 PM
StarBear A thought- lots of members listing early 74s in th... Nov 24 2021, 08:20 PM
wonkipop
A thought- lots of members listing early 74s in t... Nov 24 2021, 09:11 PM
wonkipop @StarBear
found this. maybe of interest.
don... Nov 25 2021, 05:39 AM
StarBear Interesting. Good idea with the new thread; maybe ... Nov 25 2021, 07:46 AM
wonkipop another good one i found digging back into sales a... Nov 25 2021, 05:26 PM
wonkipop @JeffBowlsby
free first service card.
i gu... Nov 25 2021, 05:40 PM
wonkipop firm confirmation of plumbing to engine bay charco... Nov 25 2021, 05:53 PM
wonkipop 14 jan 74 car at top of page is exactly same as mi... Nov 25 2021, 07:57 PM
wonkipop @JeffBowlsby
after all the info came in from mem... Dec 16 2021, 04:23 PM
JeffBowlsby @wonkipop
Wonki...Your research is exhaustive, a... Dec 16 2021, 05:27 PM
StarBear
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s... Dec 17 2021, 09:23 AM
wonkipop its still a bit of a speculation.
its hard to get... Dec 16 2021, 07:32 PM
Van B Strangely enough I have two distinct thoughts as I... Dec 16 2021, 07:52 PM
JeffBowlsby The center console /gauges were just an optional e... Dec 17 2021, 01:03 AM![]() ![]() |
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