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| boxster914 |
Apr 12 2022, 11:18 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 77 Joined: 17-September 20 From: NC, USA Member No.: 24,700 Region Association: South East States |
Hi everyone
My perfectly running 71 914 1.7 D-jet has deteriorated rapidly this past week. Early in the week I noticed what felt like a power drop out during a drive. It was very slight and only happened once and I wasn't sure I didn't cause it by unconciously lifting off the gas. The next drive it happened a few times and was more pronounced. It was then that I knew this wasn't an imagined problem. On the third drive it was like a bucking bronco, surging and stopping and the engine cut out a few times. It was undriveable. Today it will start but won't run. The engine cuts out when I try to rev it and the red light comes on. I've done some searching here but haven't been able to draw any conclusions or come up with an actionable strategy to diagnose the problem. I'm seeing people trace it to spark plug wires, air fuel ratios and bad distributors. Is there a step-by-step process that you can recommend for me to get to the cause of this? (I'm a newb so I probably will need help with abbreviations like AFR, TPS, etc.) Here is a video of it's rough idle yesterday when it was still running. https://youtu.be/n61CP6O8UgM |
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| boxster914 |
Apr 28 2022, 05:18 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 77 Joined: 17-September 20 From: NC, USA Member No.: 24,700 Region Association: South East States |
I have more data to report on this issue.
The car has driven flawlessly up until yesterday when I started it cold and it ran rough and when I drove it it was bucking. I drove for about 1/4 mile with lots of bucking and then turned it off. About 30 minutes later I tried to start it and it was completely dead no click, no lights no nothing upon turning the key. I opened the hood and manipulated the battery wires. I've included a picture with yellow circles around the wires that I manipulated. I turned the key and it started fine and no bucking. This would suggest that this is an electrical issue, yes? Is there a map on the web somewhere of the ground wires that I can check? Any other suggestions? |
| wonkipop |
Apr 29 2022, 08:24 PM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,451 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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I have more data to report on this issue. The car has driven flawlessly up until yesterday when I started it cold and it ran rough and when I drove it it was bucking. I drove for about 1/4 mile with lots of bucking and then turned it off. About 30 minutes later I tried to start it and it was completely dead no click, no lights no nothing upon turning the key. I opened the hood and manipulated the battery wires. I've included a picture with yellow circles around the wires that I manipulated. I turned the key and it started fine and no bucking. This would suggest that this is an electrical issue, yes? Is there a map on the web somewhere of the ground wires that I can check? Any other suggestions? when you say you were manipulating battery wires. you mean just jiggling the wires but the clamps are still tight on the battery. those clamps are not rotating when you jiggle them? if the clamps are good and tight its saying that maybe one of the wires inside the outer coating isn't so good? or your connection of wire to clamp is not so good. as mentioned above those screw down "anti theft" battery disconnectors as well as not being screwed down tight - can go bad, or even be bad from new. the first one i fitted to my big citroen which has constant battery drain problems was a dud and gave me all sorts of problems even screwed down tight. i threw it away and replaced it. no trouble afterwards. worth cleaning up all your ground points while you are at it as suggested. i gave that battery earth on a real good wire brush and sand paper clean on mine a couple of years ago and did the transmission one at the same time when i had the gearbox out for a clutch. the trans one had never been done since new and it was real dirty. a lot of road muck ends up on that one under the car. worth an inspection. it does sound suspiciously like one of those battery cables is not good somehow. or its that anti theft device? |
boxster914 "Trailer-hitching" bucking problem Apr 12 2022, 11:18 AM
krazykonrad I had a very similar issue. After much poking abou... Apr 12 2022, 11:49 AM
BillJ Start with fuel filter? Sounds like a progressive... Apr 12 2022, 12:18 PM
Root_Werks
Start with fuel filter? Sounds like a progressiv... Apr 12 2022, 01:05 PM

boxster914
Start with fuel filter? Sounds like a progressi... Apr 12 2022, 07:52 PM
930cabman
Start with fuel filter? Sounds like a progressiv... Apr 12 2022, 01:58 PM
Lockwodo
Hi everyone
My perfectly running 71 914 1.7 D-je... Apr 12 2022, 12:32 PM
ClayPerrine "and the red light comes on."
Which red... Apr 12 2022, 01:00 PM
Lockwodo
"and the red light comes on."
Which re... Apr 12 2022, 01:30 PM
mepstein Also check all the grounds. Easy to do and while y... Apr 12 2022, 01:49 PM
Lockwodo
Also check all the grounds. Easy to do and while ... Apr 12 2022, 01:53 PM
BillJ Everything he described could be due to a clogged ... Apr 12 2022, 02:51 PM
boxster914 You guys are awesome!
My weekend of detective... Apr 12 2022, 03:48 PM
Lockwodo
You guys are awesome!
My weekend of detectiv... Apr 12 2022, 05:06 PM
boxster914
You guys are awesome!
My weekend of detecti... Apr 12 2022, 07:43 PM
mgphoto Clean and check the FI points in the base of the d... Apr 12 2022, 03:49 PM
mgphoto
Clean and check the FI points in the base of the ... May 1 2022, 10:06 AM
Lockwodo
Clean and check the FI points in the base of the... May 1 2022, 10:53 AM

mgphoto
[quote name='mgphoto' post='2998850' date='May 1 ... May 1 2022, 02:02 PM
Lockwodo
[quote name='mgphoto' post='2994793' date='Apr 12... May 24 2022, 07:17 AM
Ansbacher Check all the wire connections to the coil. Make ... Apr 12 2022, 05:49 PM
wonkipop thanks for putting up that video.
its hunting as ... Apr 12 2022, 06:41 PM
Lockwodo
thanks for putting up that video.
its hunting as... Apr 12 2022, 07:24 PM
wonkipop
thanks for putting up that video.
its hunting a... Apr 12 2022, 07:52 PM
r_towle https://members.rennlist.com/pbanders/DJetParts.ht... Apr 12 2022, 06:46 PM
emerygt350 If it approached this point gradually, start with ... Apr 12 2022, 07:09 PM
wonkipop @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu... Apr 13 2022, 12:18 AM
Lockwodo Thanks Boxster914, very helpful to have the manual... Apr 13 2022, 08:03 AM
wonkipop
Thanks Boxster914, very helpful to have the manua... Apr 13 2022, 08:51 AM
BillJ This exact behavior happened twice in my 75. Went... Apr 13 2022, 09:23 AM
Root_Werks
This exact behavior happened twice in my 75. Wen... Apr 13 2022, 09:47 AM

Jamie
This exact behavior happened twice in my 75. We... Apr 13 2022, 09:58 AM
Lockwodo
This exact behavior happened twice in my 75. Wen... Apr 13 2022, 11:16 AM
rhodyguy Could the tank well for the supply be filled with ... Apr 13 2022, 09:46 AM
DRPHIL914 lots of good advice here already, if the fuel pre... Apr 13 2022, 11:56 AM
emerygt350
lots of good advice here already, if the fuel pr... Apr 13 2022, 02:48 PM
Lockwodo
lots of good advice here already, if the fuel pr... Apr 14 2022, 06:27 PM
DRPHIL914
lots of good advice here already, if the fuel p... Apr 18 2022, 08:09 AM
BillJ Sounds like fuel delivery to the rail is fine. Go... Apr 13 2022, 12:30 PM
wonkipop ok
fuels good.
ignition system next.
check the ... Apr 13 2022, 03:32 PM
Lockwodo Yes indeed.
Note to boxster914: I hope my car ... Apr 13 2022, 06:28 PM
boxster914 Thank you all for your input (and @lockwodo I ap... Apr 14 2022, 08:28 AM
Dave_Darling On a D-Jet car, the hesitation that happens when t... Apr 14 2022, 01:31 PM
boxster914 OK so I have some results to report on.
I changed... Apr 17 2022, 08:39 PM
wonkipop if its anything like a L jet, its the vac retard l... Apr 17 2022, 09:17 PM
wonkipop i was just reading back through your thread @boxs... Apr 17 2022, 10:04 PM
emerygt350 What year is it again? Is that an egr? Apr 18 2022, 05:04 AM
rjames The vacuum hose goes to the retard port of the thr... Apr 18 2022, 07:44 AM
emerygt350
The vacuum hose goes to the retard port of the th... Apr 18 2022, 01:22 PM
wonkipop
The vacuum hose goes to the retard port of the t... Apr 18 2022, 06:01 PM
ClayPerrine Have you checked the little ground wire that is in... Apr 18 2022, 01:26 PM
Garland :wttc: Apr 18 2022, 04:05 PM
Lockwodo Clay: I'll check the ground wire in the disty... Apr 18 2022, 06:41 PM
Lockwodo
I have more data to report on this issue.
The ca... Apr 29 2022, 06:57 AM
emerygt350 Interesting! All kinds of badness can result ... Apr 29 2022, 04:25 AM
ChrisFoley The clamp on the positive cable appears pretty tir... Apr 29 2022, 04:43 AM
boxster914 Yes @wonkipop the wires did seem tight to me. I ... Apr 30 2022, 04:01 PM
wonkipop
Yes [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.... Apr 30 2022, 06:08 PM
Lockwodo I've come to believe that battery cables shoul... Apr 30 2022, 05:41 PM
boxster914 Thank you all for your input.
Thank you @lockwod... May 1 2022, 08:26 AM
Lockwodo
Thank you all for your input.
Thank you [b]@[ur... May 1 2022, 09:36 AM
ChrisFoley I remember having trouble with old Crane optical s... May 2 2022, 04:12 AM
mgphoto Glad it worked out. May 24 2022, 04:30 PM![]() ![]() |
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