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> Overheating on the highway. 76, 2.0
SVG223
post Jun 5 2022, 10:59 PM
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My 914 overheats on the highway. I had concerns about the air flap, but I think the thermostat has broken and it stays in the open position. I thought something might be clogging the fan but it looks clear. I wonder about the heater air hose that goes over the motor. It could be blocking some air possibly. I may try to tie it out of the way. After exiting the highway and stopping at a stopsign the idle was extremely low, I was surprised it was still running. I turned the engine off for a while and it ran better after it cooled down. Any ideas would be appreciated.
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post Jun 5 2022, 11:39 PM
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This could be SO many things its hard to find a place to start, especially on a 76. Need a lot more information here.

It could be cooling air flow related, but it could also be related to the tune of the engine or overall engine condition.

I think its worth noting though that the gauge you are looking at is showing your oil temps which are not always the best indicator of if your engine is killing itself or not (im always more concerned with head temps) especially given the vagueness of that particular gauge setup. It may not even be an actual problem unless this is a noticeable change from where it was previously running.

FYI your engine is the only one I have ever seen in 25+ years of 914s that has an intact grommet on the thermostat cable, so I have to ask, has this engine ever been out of the car? If not (and given the fact that im looking at a small leaf in your fan, I would venture to guess that you could have a lot of crud in your engine fins/oil cooler.
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QUOTE(JamesM @ Jun 5 2022, 11:39 PM) *

This could be SO many things its hard to find a place to start, especially on a 76. Need a lot more information here.

It could be cooling air flow related, but it could also be related to the tune of the engine or overall engine condition.

I think its worth noting though that the gauge you are looking at is showing your oil temps which are not always the best indicator of if your engine is killing itself or not (im always more concerned with head temps) especially given the vagueness of that particular gauge setup. It may not even be an actual problem unless this is a noticeable change from where it was previously running.

FYI your engine is the only one I have ever seen in 25+ years of 914s that has an intact grommet on the thermostat cable, so I have to ask, has this engine ever been out of the car? If not (and given the fact that im looking at a small leaf in your fan, I would venture to guess that you could have a lot of crud in your engine fins/oil cooler.


The engine seems stock to me, not sure if it has been rebuilt. Odometer has 58k I'm guessing 158k. I took off the smog pump.
The change I noticed when it got hot was a drop in idle speed and it didn't seem to run as well.
Crud in the engine fins/oil cooler sounds possible.
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QUOTE(SVG223 @ Jun 5 2022, 10:28 PM) *

QUOTE(JamesM @ Jun 5 2022, 11:39 PM) *

This could be SO many things its hard to find a place to start, especially on a 76. Need a lot more information here.

It could be cooling air flow related, but it could also be related to the tune of the engine or overall engine condition.

I think its worth noting though that the gauge you are looking at is showing your oil temps which are not always the best indicator of if your engine is killing itself or not (im always more concerned with head temps) especially given the vagueness of that particular gauge setup. It may not even be an actual problem unless this is a noticeable change from where it was previously running.

FYI your engine is the only one I have ever seen in 25+ years of 914s that has an intact grommet on the thermostat cable, so I have to ask, has this engine ever been out of the car? If not (and given the fact that im looking at a small leaf in your fan, I would venture to guess that you could have a lot of crud in your engine fins/oil cooler.


The engine seems stock to me, not sure if it has been rebuilt. Odometer has 58k I'm guessing 158k. I took off the smog pump.
The change I noticed when it got hot was a drop in idle speed and it didn't seem to run as well.
Crud in the engine fins/oil cooler sounds possible.


I noticed the belt was missing for the smog pump, if you are not running it you should probably consider removing the pully assembly for it as well as the bearing in them tends to seize up. Also FYI haven't seen one of those that wasn't totally trashed as
well.

Right now I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it actually was a 58k mile car. I would love to see pictures of the rest of it.

While we are on the subject of missing bits, minor issue but the tab that holds down the cooling flap rod is also missing.
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post Jun 6 2022, 12:40 PM
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QUOTE(JamesM @ Jun 6 2022, 02:11 AM) *

QUOTE(SVG223 @ Jun 5 2022, 10:28 PM) *

QUOTE(JamesM @ Jun 5 2022, 11:39 PM) *

This could be SO many things its hard to find a place to start, especially on a 76. Need a lot more information here.

It could be cooling air flow related, but it could also be related to the tune of the engine or overall engine condition.

I think its worth noting though that the gauge you are looking at is showing your oil temps which are not always the best indicator of if your engine is killing itself or not (im always more concerned with head temps) especially given the vagueness of that particular gauge setup. It may not even be an actual problem unless this is a noticeable change from where it was previously running.

FYI your engine is the only one I have ever seen in 25+ years of 914s that has an intact grommet on the thermostat cable, so I have to ask, has this engine ever been out of the car? If not (and given the fact that im looking at a small leaf in your fan, I would venture to guess that you could have a lot of crud in your engine fins/oil cooler.


The engine seems stock to me, not sure if it has been rebuilt. Odometer has 58k I'm guessing 158k. I took off the smog pump.
The change I noticed when it got hot was a drop in idle speed and it didn't seem to run as well.
Crud in the engine fins/oil cooler sounds possible.


I noticed the belt was missing for the smog pump, if you are not running it you should probably consider removing the pully assembly for it as well as the bearing in them tends to seize up. Also FYI haven't seen one of those that wasn't totally trashed as
well.
Yes sounds like a good idea. I didn't realize that until I took the picture.
Right now I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it actually was a 58k mile car. I would love to see pictures of the rest of it.
There's a little wear on second gear synchro and a few other things that make me think it couldn't be that low of mileage.
Here is a link to the dealership that I bought the car from they have a bunch of pictures of it. https://www.driversource.com/vehicles/1385/1976-porsche-914
While we are on the subject of missing bits, minor issue but the tab that holds down the cooling flap rod is also missing.
Thanks I didn't know anything was missing I will have to look that part up.

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SVG223   Overheating on the highway. 76, 2.0   Jun 5 2022, 10:59 PM
Superhawk996   Did it actually go into the red zone? If not then...   Jun 5 2022, 11:38 PM
SVG223   Did it actually go into the red zone? If not the...   Jun 6 2022, 12:17 AM
JamesM   This could be SO many things its hard to find a pl...   Jun 5 2022, 11:39 PM
Superhawk996   This could be SO many things its hard to find a p...   Jun 5 2022, 11:44 PM
SVG223   This could be SO many things its hard to find a p...   Jun 6 2022, 12:28 AM
JamesM   This could be SO many things its hard to find a ...   Jun 6 2022, 02:11 AM
SVG223   [quote name='JamesM' post='3006792' date='Jun 5 ...   Jun 6 2022, 12:40 PM
JamesM   There's a little wear on second gear synchro ...   Jun 6 2022, 09:06 PM
wonkipop   This could be SO many things its hard to find a p...   Jun 6 2022, 02:59 AM
JamesM   i got one of those them there grommets on my engi...   Jun 6 2022, 10:43 AM
wonkipop   i got one of those them there grommets on my eng...   Jun 6 2022, 04:39 PM
Superhawk996   Location? Ambient temperature? Speed driven, wha...   Jun 6 2022, 01:12 AM
SVG223   Location? Arkansas Ambient temperature? 80f Speed...   Jun 6 2022, 11:58 AM
JamesM   My gut (and my eyes with limited pictures) are tel...   Jun 6 2022, 02:25 AM
76-914   As James said that is the oil temp. Porsche actual...   Jun 6 2022, 08:07 AM
SVG223   As James said that is the oil temp. Porsche actua...   Jun 6 2022, 05:50 PM
emerygt350   The other symptoms point to something out of the o...   Jun 6 2022, 09:41 AM
Superhawk996   The other symptoms point to something out of the ...   Jun 6 2022, 09:48 AM
SVG223   The other symptoms point to something out of the ...   Jun 6 2022, 06:18 PM
Chaznaster   The other symptoms point to something out of the ...   Jun 6 2022, 06:56 PM
Superhawk996   Here's the weekly posting of oil temperature g...   Jun 6 2022, 09:41 AM
mgphoto   My 914 overheats on the highway. I had concerns a...   Jun 6 2022, 11:02 AM
SVG223   My 914 overheats on the highway. I had concerns ...   Jun 6 2022, 05:44 PM
wonkipop   [quote name='mgphoto' post='3006885' date='Jun 6 ...   Jun 6 2022, 07:08 PM
emerygt350   Good call. Never even thought about that.   Jun 6 2022, 11:12 AM
Superhawk996   Based on info above I'm more convinced that so...   Jun 6 2022, 12:17 PM
SVG223   Based on info above I'm more convinced that s...   Jun 6 2022, 10:59 PM
brant   Also wanted to ask which front spoiler or valance ...   Jun 6 2022, 01:49 PM
wonkipop   @SVG223 hey thats a good looking car you got hol...   Jun 6 2022, 04:31 PM
emerygt350   1- ODYR/SLX-11-1--BLUE-K - Cylinder Head Temperatu...   Jun 6 2022, 07:37 PM
FlacaProductions   1- ODYR/SLX-11-1--BLUE-K - Cylinder Head Temperat...   Jun 7 2022, 09:32 AM
Chaznaster   1- ODYR/SLX-11-1--BLUE-K - Cylinder Head Temperat...   Jun 8 2022, 05:40 PM
mgphoto   Remove the cat, there is an after market bypass pi...   Jun 6 2022, 10:52 PM
Lockwodo   Don't know if anyone else has mentioned this, ...   Jun 7 2022, 01:37 PM
emerygt350   That's a Porsche/diff type thing. Our fans ar...   Jun 7 2022, 03:11 PM
piscean914   i would start by confirming the oil temp in the su...   Jun 7 2022, 11:59 PM
rhodyguy   Delete/Replace the cat converter and clean the oil...   Jun 10 2022, 07:50 AM
SVG223   I think the ignition timing has been retarded by a...   Apr 9 2023, 06:58 PM
Superhawk996   tried to get it to ping but it didn't so I n...   Apr 9 2023, 07:47 PM
SVG223   tried to get it to ping but it didn't so I ...   Apr 9 2023, 09:51 PM
VaccaRabite   [quote name='Superhawk996' post='3070615' date='A...   Apr 10 2023, 09:44 AM
SVG223   [quote name='Superhawk996' post='3070615' date='...   Apr 11 2023, 10:43 PM
VaccaRabite   I hear no pinging under load I may have guessed ...   Apr 12 2023, 06:24 AM
SVG223   I hear no pinging under load I may have guessed...   Apr 12 2023, 07:27 AM
VaccaRabite   Just clearing out all the crap on top of the oil c...   Apr 12 2023, 11:30 AM
930cabman   Has a "high temperature" ever been confi...   Apr 13 2023, 06:37 AM


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