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> Lost 4th & 5th Gears, where do I start to troubleshoot?
Rick986
post Jul 21 2022, 10:31 AM
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Been noticing a challenge getting it into 4th for about a week in my '75. Now, fully impossible. Where do I start looking first? Thanks.
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post Jul 21 2022, 03:18 PM
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Pulled the boot cover back at firewall and this fell out. What is it and where should it go?

And what are these "cone screws" you guys are referencing? Thanks guys!


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post Jul 21 2022, 03:50 PM
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QUOTE(Rick986 @ Jul 21 2022, 02:18 PM) *

And what are these "cone screws" you guys are referencing? Thanks guys!


See the Allen-head fastener in your second pic? That is the cone screw. Or rather, one of them. The other screws in through the shift rod head that goes on the rear end of the rear shift rod, hiding up above the plastic boot on the side of the transmission.

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post Jul 22 2022, 07:07 AM
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QUOTE(Rick986 @ Jul 21 2022, 02:18 PM) *

And what are these "cone screws" you guys are referencing? Thanks guys!


See the Allen-head fastener in your second pic? That is the cone screw. Or rather, one of them. The other screws in through the shift rod head that goes on the rear end of the rear shift rod, hiding up above the plastic boot on the side of the transmission.

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Yes, I figured that out. Thanks Dave. Really appreciate everyone's help here! I ordered a set of brass bushings and new screws yesterday. Hopefully that fixes the problem.
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post Jul 22 2022, 07:21 AM
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QUOTE(Rick986 @ Jul 22 2022, 09:07 AM) *

QUOTE(Dave_Darling @ Jul 21 2022, 03:50 PM) *

QUOTE(Rick986 @ Jul 21 2022, 02:18 PM) *

And what are these "cone screws" you guys are referencing? Thanks guys!


See the Allen-head fastener in your second pic? That is the cone screw. Or rather, one of them. The other screws in through the shift rod head that goes on the rear end of the rear shift rod, hiding up above the plastic boot on the side of the transmission.

--DD


Yes, I figured that out. Thanks Dave. Really appreciate everyone's help here! I ordered a set of brass bushings and new screws yesterday. Hopefully that fixes the problem.

@Rick986

i saw this late last nite, just getting some time this morning to log on and give you some info and advice,

You are on the right track, this is what happens that bushing will look just fine and then it just crumbles. Its not all gone so you have some leverage to get some gears but it hast to be pulled and replaced. I have some pictures i posted on my build thread from doing this about 2 year ago. i had the same senario . I did the brass bushings for the shift coupler bushing i think thats the best way to go. you also ordered the new cone screws, but i also would recommend the new brass bushing for the shift console and the new plastic cup that goes on the console coupler and i would do a new firewall bushing, you dont want to do this 2 or 3 times. Get a new console cover as well.
914rubber has most of those parts, but Rich at 914werke , he is a member here too and has some cool parts, has a brass console bushing, and Rick at RIX914parts.com or Chris Foley at Tangerine Racing both have a version of a better firewall bushing. Tangerine version is big and beefy more for racing. you will find lots of infor use the search function here to look this up . if i have time i will post a few links for you.

you will completely remove your shift bar by removing that cone screw at front and back, pull that cover off the console and the one at the fire wall- get new ones, pull the bar out and you will have to press out the metal pin that holds the coupler on the end of the bar. DO NOT HAMMER IT. you will mar it and it wont come out or go back in , you have to press it out and press it back in . it has several splines and its not perfectly cylindrical that is so it will stay in once pressed into place.

Good luck - get those other new parts ordered today,

Phil

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Rick986   Lost 4th & 5th Gears   Jul 21 2022, 10:31 AM
flipb   Trace the shift linkage rod from the firewall to t...   Jul 21 2022, 11:01 AM
Rick986   Trace the shift linkage rod from the firewall to ...   Jul 21 2022, 02:32 PM
emerygt350   While you are down there, check the cone screw rig...   Jul 21 2022, 12:17 PM
NARP74   Check both cone screws while you are at it. Caref...   Jul 21 2022, 12:26 PM
Dr Evil   Check universal joint at fire wall, cone screws as...   Jul 21 2022, 12:32 PM
NARP74   I have also heard longer seat belt bolts on one si...   Jul 21 2022, 02:13 PM
Rick986   Thanks guys. Got her up on the lift now and am inv...   Jul 21 2022, 02:30 PM
NARP74   Is the R & 1 gate all the way up or down in ba...   Jul 21 2022, 02:31 PM
Rick986   Is the R & 1 gate all the way up or down in b...   Jul 21 2022, 02:36 PM
NARP74   Is the R & 1 gate all the way up or down in ...   Jul 21 2022, 02:39 PM
Rick986   Pulled the boot cover back at firewall and this fe...   Jul 21 2022, 03:18 PM
Dave_Darling   And what are these "cone screws" you gu...   Jul 21 2022, 03:50 PM
Rick986   And what are these "cone screws" you g...   Jul 22 2022, 07:07 AM
DRPHIL914   [quote name='Rick986' post='3016978' date='Jul 2...   Jul 22 2022, 07:21 AM
porschetub   [quote name='Dave_Darling' post='3016991' date='J...   Jul 29 2022, 06:11 PM
Rick986   Sorry I'm being lazy! I'm doing my hom...   Jul 21 2022, 03:43 PM
DRPHIL914   here are a few links https://www.rix914parts.com/...   Jul 22 2022, 07:27 AM
ndfrigi   Been noticing a challenge getting it into 4th for...   Jul 22 2022, 08:04 AM
DRPHIL914   Been noticing a challenge getting it into 4th fo...   Jul 22 2022, 08:41 AM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   yup new delrin coupler bushings should fix you rig...   Jul 22 2022, 10:44 AM
Rick986   It's been said before, but I must say it again...   Jul 28 2022, 10:44 AM
StarBear   So, what was the final issue and solution?   Jul 28 2022, 01:35 PM
Rick986   So, what was the final issue and solution? The ...   Jul 29 2022, 11:31 AM


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