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| Big Len | 
			
			  Jul 29 2022, 02:38 PM
			
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| Lockwodo | 
			
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			 Why would BaT advertise this as a "28k-Mile 1974 Porsche 914" without verifying the mileage?  | 
	
| Superhawk996 | 
			
			  Aug 1 2022, 05:48 AM
			
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			 Why would BaT advertise this as a "28k-Mile 1974 Porsche 914" without verifying the mileage? Because they (BAT and the seller) have no integrity. BAT has been bought by Hearst Automotive Group in 2020 and it is nothing more than a cash machine to a corporate conglomerate. BAT has no direct liability for what a seller might claim. BAT verifys nothing as is clear from the photos. I copied the quote directly from the BAT listing. Odo "shows 28k miles" - that is true. What isn't true is that isn't the actual mileage as is clear from the photos and the detective work others have been doing on this car. From my prior post: This whole BAT "shows 28k miles" stuff is (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stromberg.gif) knowing full well that they haven't lied to a degree that can be contested in a court of law but knowing full well that the car really isn't a 28K original miles but is really 128K. While BAT is a fun site to look at and potentially a means to connect enthusiast sellers -- it is still Buyer Beware just like Craigslist, EBay, or any other listing medium.  | 
	
| wonkipop | 
			
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			 Why would BaT advertise this as a "28k-Mile 1974 Porsche 914" without verifying the mileage? Because they (BAT and the seller) have no integrity. BAT has been bought by Hearst Automotive Group in 2020 and it is nothing more than a cash machine to a corporate conglomerate. BAT has no direct liability for what a seller might claim. BAT verifys nothing as is clear from the photos. I copied the quote directly from the BAT listing. Odo "shows 28k miles" - that is true. What isn't true is that isn't the actual mileage as is clear from the photos and the detective work others have been doing on this car. From my prior post: This whole BAT "shows 28k miles" stuff is (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stromberg.gif) knowing full well that they haven't lied to a degree that can be contested in a court of law but knowing full well that the car really isn't a 28K original miles but is really 128K. While BAT is a fun site to look at and potentially a means to connect enthusiast sellers -- it is still Buyer Beware just like Craigslist, EBay, or any other listing medium. agree 100% @Superhawk996 if you have certifiable 27,000 m car not merely an alleged one you would not be selling on BAT. it would be sotherby's or similar handling the sales job. the wording on mileage would be unambiguous. see this one. haggerty's use the wording "actual miles". presumably that was 100% supportable with documentation. case in point. the blue 1.7 owned by the florida retiree. pulled $80 K +. just under 14,000 miles. sort of unbelievable at first. thats 300 miles per year over her 48 years of ownership. but entirely possible. then once you look over the photos of the car, yep.....it sure looked for real. i saw a very early VW fastback in perth 30 years ago. similar story. you can tell the minute you walk up to them. then they just get better the more you look at. https://insider.hagerty.com/car/1973-porsche-914-1-7/  | 
	
| Superhawk996 | 
			
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			 if you have certifiable 27,000 m car not merely an alleged one you would not be selling on BAT. it would be sotherby's or similar handling the sales job. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Exactly!  | 
	
 Big Len   27,000 mile original '74 on BaT   Jul 29 2022, 02:38 PM
 
 SKL1   Will be interesting to watch.  But those wiper bla...   Jul 29 2022, 02:50 PM
 
 dr914@autoatlanta.com   certainly a bit rough for only 27 thousand miles, ...   Jul 29 2022, 02:58 PM
 
 StarBear   
I'm going for it, $71K.
https://bringat...   Jul 29 2022, 04:48 PM
 
 Big Len   
[quote name='Big Len' post='3019017' date='Jul 29...   Jul 29 2022, 05:11 PM
 
 Cairo94507   I agree with the Doc on this one.  I expected it t...   Jul 29 2022, 05:31 PM
 
 Van B   Calling  @wonkipop  !  This ole girl had to be...   Jul 29 2022, 06:50 PM
 
 wonkipop   
Calling  [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/in...   Jul 29 2022, 07:57 PM
 
 wonkipop   
I'm going for it, $71K.
https://bringat...   Jul 29 2022, 07:46 PM
 
 Jett   Love the color, but there are areas that look grea...   Jul 30 2022, 02:19 PM
 
 Superhawk996   :agree: 
Very nice car that anyone could be proud...   Jul 30 2022, 02:59 PM
 
 wonkipop   
:agree: 
Very nice car that anyone could be prou...   Jul 30 2022, 06:52 PM
 
 Superhawk996   
other strange things are drive shafts still have...   Jul 31 2022, 09:43 AM
 
 wonkipop   
other strange things are drive shafts still hav...   Jul 31 2022, 05:02 PM
 
 wonkipop   @Big Len 
i'm putting my bet in at $50K ...   Jul 30 2022, 08:03 PM
 
 Van B   @Superhawk996  and I are of the same mind on this ...   Jul 30 2022, 08:10 PM
 
 wonkipop   
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s...   Jul 30 2022, 10:59 PM
 
 914Next   Yeah I am intrigued with this one also.  I was the...   Jul 31 2022, 07:38 AM
 
 Big Len   @wonkipop  Yes, I saw the engine bar painted black...   Jul 31 2022, 08:12 AM
 
 wonkipop   
@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?show...   Jul 31 2022, 08:28 AM
 
 Superhawk996   
its a good car in a lot of respects, but it ain...   Jul 31 2022, 09:55 AM
 
 Jett   The pic 66 shows that this car has some rust tryin...   Jul 31 2022, 08:13 AM
 
 FlacaProductions   This may be the previous listing: 
http://classicc...   Jul 31 2022, 09:56 AM
 
 Superhawk996   
This may be the previous listing: 
http://classic...   Jul 31 2022, 10:03 AM
 
 914Next   
This may be the previous listing: 
http://classic...   Jul 31 2022, 04:23 PM
 
 wonkipop   
This may be the previous listing: 
http://classic...   Jul 31 2022, 05:43 PM
 
 Van B   @wonkipop  I definitely thing you’re spot on wit...   Jul 31 2022, 11:12 AM
 
 wonkipop   
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s...   Jul 31 2022, 06:24 PM
 
 FlacaProductions   Searching the VIN is how I found the previous list...   Jul 31 2022, 04:39 PM
 
 wonkipop   i'm going for broken odo.
here is the mileage...   Jul 31 2022, 09:10 PM
 
 wonkipop   
I'm going for it, $71K.
[url=https://b...   Jul 31 2022, 10:02 PM
 
 windforfun   Just another horse trader.  At least with a horse ...   Jul 31 2022, 09:50 PM
 
 wonkipop   
Just another horse trader.  At least with a horse...   Jul 31 2022, 10:11 PM
 
 930cabman   Possible but not probable.
As always: buyer bewar...   Aug 1 2022, 06:27 PM
 
 wonkipop   another web entry on it from 19.
scroll down comme...   Aug 1 2022, 09:26 PM
 
 Van B   Whoever “Oldalfapvguy” is must not be reading ...   Aug 1 2022, 10:12 PM
 
 wonkipop   
Whoever “Oldalfapvguy” is must not be reading...   Aug 2 2022, 01:28 AM
 
 wonkipop   @Van B 
i better be nice re ye olde romeo dude ins...   Aug 2 2022, 02:12 AM
 
 gandalf_025   Mine has been parked since 1988...
 I know the mil...   Aug 2 2022, 06:00 AM
 
 Big Len   Guys, do you have any clue what the costs are to b...   Aug 2 2022, 10:28 AM
 
 Superhawk996   
Guys, do you have any clue what the costs are to ...   Aug 2 2022, 11:10 AM

 
 wonkipop   
Guys, do you have any clue what the costs are to...   Aug 2 2022, 06:02 PM
 
 wonkipop   
Guys, do you have any clue what the costs are to ...   Aug 2 2022, 05:39 PM
 
 Van B   I’m thinking about flipping a 29k mile car… I ...   Aug 2 2022, 08:54 PM
 
 wonkipop   
I’m thinking about flipping a 29k mile car… I...   Aug 3 2022, 02:07 AM
 
 r_towle   One winter or two in the northeast can create a to...   Aug 3 2022, 06:47 AM
 
 mepstein   
One winter or two in the northeast can create a t...   Aug 3 2022, 06:58 AM
 
 wonkipop   
One winter or two in the northeast can create a ...   Aug 3 2022, 07:36 AM
 
 StarBear   My car “shows” nearly 20k miles - but I have t...   Aug 3 2022, 07:32 AM
 
 Superhawk996   
My car “shows” nearly 20k miles - but I have ...   Aug 3 2022, 09:34 AM
 
 mepstein   
My car “shows” nearly 20k miles - but I have...   Aug 3 2022, 09:43 AM

 
 bbrock   
I'm the same way with numbers matching and da...   Aug 3 2022, 07:04 PM

 
 930cabman   
I'm the same way with numbers matching and d...   Aug 5 2022, 09:34 AM
 
 Jett   
My car “shows” nearly 20k miles - but I have...   Aug 4 2022, 08:41 AM
 
 dr914@autoatlanta.com   I had a paper weight in my garage years ago, that ...   Aug 4 2022, 09:41 AM
 
 Superhawk996   
I will have it until I die, and the day after my ...   Aug 4 2022, 11:50 AM
 
 930cabman   
I will have it until I die, and the day after my...   Aug 4 2022, 03:39 PM
 
 Big Len   Not that my opinion matters much, but do I think t...   Aug 3 2022, 09:33 AM
 
 wonkipop   
Not that my opinion matters much, but do I think ...   Aug 3 2022, 05:43 PM
 
 dr914@autoatlanta.com   I certainly believe the miles, just has had a hard...   Aug 3 2022, 10:04 AM
 
 mepstein   
I certainly believe the miles, just has had a har...   Aug 3 2022, 10:15 AM
 
 wonkipop   
I certainly believe the miles, just has had a har...   Aug 5 2022, 03:39 AM
 
 Superhawk996   Not buying the miles at all.  
Too much road grim...   Aug 3 2022, 12:04 PM
 
 wonkipop   PS  @Big Len .
have you seen the rolling assembly...   Aug 3 2022, 05:58 PM
 
 Big Len   Excellent discussion with differing opinions. 
My ...   Aug 4 2022, 06:54 AM
 
 Superhawk996   
Excellent discussion with differing opinions. 
My...   Aug 4 2022, 07:24 AM

 
 Jett   
Excellent discussion with differing opinions. 
M...   Aug 4 2022, 08:28 AM
 
 wonkipop   
Excellent discussion with differing opinions. 
My...   Aug 4 2022, 03:57 PM
 
 EdwardBlume   I’ll make a guess on the price tomorrow or so. 
...   Aug 4 2022, 08:28 AM
 
 Big Len   @wonkipop  - An interesting point no doubt. That M...   Aug 5 2022, 06:03 AM
 
 wonkipop   
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s...   Aug 5 2022, 06:35 AM
 
 Big Len   I don't know why I so fascinated with this sal...   Aug 5 2022, 07:01 AM
 
 bbrock   
I don't know why I so fascinated with this sa...   Aug 5 2022, 07:58 AM

 
 wonkipop   
I don't know why I so fascinated with this s...   Aug 5 2022, 06:22 PM
 
 Jett   [quote name='Big Len' date='Aug 5 2022...   Aug 5 2022, 08:15 AM
 
 DRPHIL914   
[quote name='Big Len' date='Aug 5 202...   Aug 5 2022, 10:15 AM
 
 Superhawk996   The fat lady has sung.  
 
Good price for a very...   Aug 5 2022, 11:29 AM
 
 mepstein   Much more realistic price than the last couple sal...   Aug 5 2022, 11:38 AM
 
 914sgofast2   I don't remember the Seller of this car ever m...   Aug 5 2022, 12:45 PM
 
 Big Len   My guestimate was only off by a little bit  :lol4:...   Aug 5 2022, 01:31 PM
 
 wonkipop   
My guestimate was only off by a little bit  :lol4...   Aug 5 2022, 05:03 PM
 
 FlacaProductions   ok - should we talk about the '70 6, now?
http...   Aug 5 2022, 01:57 PM
 
 Jett   
ok - should we talk about the '70 6, now?
htt...   Aug 5 2022, 08:07 PM
 
 gereed75   Thats a beaut Clark.  Very nice example. Not nitpi...   Aug 5 2022, 03:25 PM
 
 mepstein   Back in 2006/2007, every house was going for top d...   Aug 5 2022, 03:39 PM
 
 porschetub   
Back in 2006/2007, every house was going for top ...   Aug 5 2022, 05:14 PM
 
 914sgofast2   
Back in 2006/2007, every house was going for top...   Aug 5 2022, 05:16 PM![]() ![]()  | 
	
 
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