Help me help you Seal fitment, Started a new thread to deconstruct this |
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Help me help you Seal fitment, Started a new thread to deconstruct this |
Mikey914 |
Aug 10 2022, 04:50 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,677 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
This was brought us as an issue and I'm really trying to figure this out. Any ideas of why the window would look lower and have a gap here.
Here were my thoughts - I keep looking at this and something doesn't look right. Given that the blocks are identical to the factory ones in shape and durometer, what would the solution be here? There appears to be a 1/2" section of rubber not fully seated, Is it holding it out? Could the amount of butyl behind the "chrome" be holding it down slightly? I don't think that would be the whole story. The triangle window looks like the top is seated deeper than the cap. Almost like if the top of the triangle window was shimmed out more it would push the bottom of the cap out more to "close the gap". This appears to be where the failure is - at least in my eyes. I've seen many of the caps worn and look slightly deformed from the top of the glass pushing it out, but not here. It looks like it's barely engaged. Why it would sit lower is beyond me. The initial complaint was it was too tight, which would hold it up. Submitted to the brain trust Attached thumbnail(s) |
Olympic 914 |
Aug 11 2022, 07:18 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 1,672 Joined: 7-July 11 From: Pittsburgh PA Member No.: 13,287 Region Association: North East States |
can anyone add the dimensions of the roof opening?
thinking that if the A pillar is moved back, the triangle window would not be able to be adjusted to fit right. I know in my younger, more foolish days, i had jumped into the car without opening the door. and probably had my hand on the A pillar when doing so. Which would have pushed it down. |
Superhawk996 |
Aug 11 2022, 07:29 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,875 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
can anyone add the dimensions of the roof opening? thinking that if the A pillar is moved back, the triangle window would not be able to be adjusted to fit right. I know in my younger, more foolish days, i had jumped into the car without opening the door. and probably had my hand on the A pillar when doing so. Which would have pushed it down. The dimension is "f" -- 25 1/8" Side note: Not sure why we now have two threads going on the same topic. |
Mikey914 |
Aug 11 2022, 03:30 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,677 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
can anyone add the dimensions of the roof opening? thinking that if the A pillar is moved back, the triangle window would not be able to be adjusted to fit right. I know in my younger, more foolish days, i had jumped into the car without opening the door. and probably had my hand on the A pillar when doing so. Which would have pushed it down. The dimension is "f" -- 25 1/8" Side note: Not sure why we now have two threads going on the same topic. I started this thread with a new title to specifically ask for help from the community to address the problem. Calling that out specifically. It has yielded some different responses that are valid. I have posted up in the other thread as well. Explaining what the process is that we use, as well as how we size the seal and determine material specifications. I do believe there is an issue here. It is definitely a compound question that the answer is not apparent. It's not as simple as make it softer, make it taller, install like this, not like that. This is the main reason I'm seeking community input. |
Superhawk996 |
Aug 11 2022, 04:25 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,875 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
It is definitely a compound question that the answer is not apparent. It's not as simple as make it softer, make it taller, install like this, not like that. This is the main reason I'm seeking community input. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Now I understand the 2nd thread. Thanks! |
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