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> 1975 Wiring Harness repair - fix or delete seat sensor wiring
DaveB
post Jun 1 2022, 11:57 AM
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I just removed the wiring harness from my '75. I am not sure what the PO did or what happened but there are a lot of shorts with melted and exposed wiring. The seat wiring is melted into a large uniform mess.

I hate any form of lock out with seat belts. Can I remove the wiring and sensors or is there any reason I should restore the wiring under the seats and then make the modification to delete the lock out and fasten seat belt signals? I can't imagine a future owner thinking they would want to have the wiring available to connect a starter lock out to the seat belts.

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post Aug 29 2022, 08:07 PM
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Thanks Jeff. Just had another look at my LE, and noticed it has not had the 2 yellow wires bridged. Also, no short brown wire from pin 31 to the spade under the bracket, but the spade is there. The double brown wire that is loose on all the other harnesses ais loose on mine as well, but the pin 31 spot is open, so can go there. My interior light has just 2 brown wires, the others I have sport 3 wires.
The master cyl started with 2 pin switches, and went to just one, so the latter is later.
The 311-963-141-B, small cube is just a simple 15A power relay used in many applications and is available in many power levels to about 40 A or more under different part #'s. The buzzer must be integrated within the 133-919-431 (what I call the Logic relay) (In German it is marked as Logik-Relais, so who am I to argue). The buzzer, as used on the fuse panel is just a 2 pin device, so I think it is integrated, besides, the 311 relay has an obvious other purpose from the connections it has. I almost think the 311 relay was added and several wires rerouted, the 2 wire brown on 31 was replaced by the single brown to the spade and the black & black/red pair was pulled from 30 (133) and the triple black connected to it going to 85 (311) + 85 (133) + 30 (133) . This triple black is on my LE harness even though it uses a Marrette Twist-on connector.
Starbear says his early 74 1.8 also has several 1973 wiring characteristics; I will have to ask for specifics. I would really like to rewrite the current flow diagram to correctly reflect the actual cars.
The seatbelt connectors on my LE are mostly missing, so I want to be able to rebuild that section of it.
I think the factory current flow diagram for 1974 USA was correct at one time, but when and why it changed I do not know. Strange that the 1975 USA is the same as the 1974 in the logic relay connections as though nothing was formally changed. Then 1976 was simplified totally.


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DaveB   1975 Wiring Harness repair - fix or delete seat sensor wiring   Jun 1 2022, 11:57 AM
StarBear   YIKES! :blink:   Jun 1 2022, 02:52 PM
windforfun   Delete the whole harness. Buy a "new" h...   Jun 1 2022, 04:14 PM
DaveB   Delete the whole harness. Buy a "new" ...   Jun 1 2022, 05:29 PM
bbrock   I love being a contrarian :evilgrin: If you have...   Jun 1 2022, 05:05 PM
Superhawk996   Lots of DAPO :stromberg: going on there. As B...   Jun 1 2022, 05:43 PM
Root_Werks   I removed pretty much out of my harness that wasn...   Jun 1 2022, 05:45 PM
john ee quest   I think your PO worked on my 914 cause it looks (t...   Jun 1 2022, 06:03 PM
JeffBowlsby   OP has a 1975 914/4 car. A 914/6 chassis harness ...   Jun 1 2022, 07:23 PM
bbrock   OP has a 1975 914/4 car. A 914/6 chassis harness...   Jun 1 2022, 07:50 PM
mepstein   So many of these cars get parted out. I would look...   Jun 1 2022, 07:41 PM
mepstein   I have a couple used harnesses but I’m not sure ...   Jun 1 2022, 07:56 PM
Luke M   If you have the time redo the harness yourself. I ...   Jun 2 2022, 07:49 AM
peteyd   We have made several /4 chassis harnesses as well....   Jun 2 2022, 09:44 AM
barefoot   Looks like you'd like to understand the harnes...   Jun 2 2022, 10:08 AM
friethmiller   First off, I must say I'm a big fan of Restora...   Jun 2 2022, 10:28 AM
JeffBowlsby   There is no 'early' or 'late' chas...   Jun 2 2022, 11:29 AM
FlacaProductions   RD will sell you the wiring in factory colors/size...   Jun 2 2022, 11:40 AM
914e   RD will sell you the wiring in factory colors/siz...   Jun 2 2022, 06:03 PM
DaveB   I appreciate all the input and suggestions. I d...   Jun 2 2022, 08:25 PM
davep   Does anyone have a 1974 (about March production) c...   Aug 15 2022, 11:03 AM
JeffBowlsby   :wavy: I do. What are the specific differences?   Aug 15 2022, 01:30 PM
davep   Let me start with what goes to pin 31 and pin 85 o...   Aug 19 2022, 09:37 PM
davep   Van B posted this photo which shows that for his c...   Aug 25 2022, 08:45 PM
wonkipop   i'll see if i can get some time over weekend t...   Aug 25 2022, 08:51 PM
ClayPerrine   A word of warning... There is a small black wire ...   Aug 26 2022, 08:10 AM
davep   @JeffBowlsby was there a formal campaign to fix t...   Aug 29 2022, 12:34 PM
JeffBowlsby   was there a formal campaign to fix the interlock s...   Aug 29 2022, 06:00 PM
JeffBowlsby   was there a formal campaign to fix the interlock ...   Aug 29 2022, 06:08 PM
davep   Thanks Jeff. Just had another look at my LE, and n...   Aug 29 2022, 08:07 PM
JeffBowlsby   Dave, that photo above looks odd somehow. A Euro ...   Aug 29 2022, 09:21 PM
davep   Your photo there does not show if there is a spade...   Aug 30 2022, 08:08 PM


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