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Cal
post Jan 10 2022, 04:14 PM
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I'm considering updating my sealed beam headlights with period correct H4's. What's the maximum wattage bulb that can be installed without having to install relays? In the past I've installed H1's with 100/80 watt bulbs in my early SWB 911 and I needed to install relays. I'm not interested in LED lights.


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post Oct 21 2022, 02:26 PM
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Does anyone have issues with LED's freezing up or allowing snow to build up? I tried to run LED's on our Jeep TJ once and was shocked how fast they built up frost and became useless. I swapped them out for Hella H4's (run those on my Bug and 914 as well).

Seems like you need some heat on the glass if you do any cold weather driving, right?
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post Oct 21 2022, 06:41 PM
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QUOTE(Root_Werks @ Oct 21 2022, 02:26 PM) *

Does anyone have issues with LED's freezing up or allowing snow to build up? I tried to run LED's on our Jeep TJ once and was shocked how fast they built up frost and became useless. I swapped them out for Hella H4's (run those on my Bug and 914 as well).

Seems like you need some heat on the glass if you do any cold weather driving, right?


If you are worried about snow buildup on your 914 headlights, then you have bigger huevos than me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif)

I've said it before and will say it again. I'm not a fan of throwing LED bulbs into halogen housings unless you know what you are doing to make sure the beam pattern isn't changed. Too many dipshits on the road blinding oncoming traffic out there already.
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post Oct 22 2022, 04:29 PM
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QUOTE(bbrock @ Oct 21 2022, 05:41 PM) *

I've said it before and will say it again. I'm not a fan of throwing LED bulbs into halogen housings unless you know what you are doing to make sure the beam pattern isn't changed. Too many dipshits on the road blinding oncoming traffic out there already.


Count me in your camp.

One LED vendor sent me the right bulbs in the wrong housings, then told me to just keep the bulbs and put them in my existing H4s—admitting there's nothing different or special about its "premium" H4 housings for its LED bulbs. Its website sure "led" (sorry… (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) ) me to believe the H4 housings it sold were somehow matched to the LED bulbs, and also left me thinking the company developed its own bulbs—which is funny, because what looked like the very same bulbs less a stenciled logo were available on Amazon for $29~/pair iirc.

My hangup is wanting modern LED performance and efficiency (less heat, less draw, less stress) with vintage looks…even when the lights are up. None I've seen did that, until I spotted these…but they aren't cheap. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/hly-lfrb...AyABEgKsjPD_BwE
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post Oct 22 2022, 06:17 PM
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QUOTE(horizontally-opposed @ Oct 22 2022, 04:29 PM) *

My hangup is wanting modern LED performance and efficiency (less heat, less draw, less stress) with vintage looks…even when the lights are up. None I've seen did that, until I spotted these…but they aren't cheap. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/hly-lfrb...AyABEgKsjPD_BwE


That actually isn't a bad price for LED assemblies. Not much more than I paid for my Truck-lites a couple years ago and less than I would have to pay today.

@Cairo94507 I always thought the Truck-Lite and GE Nighthawks were the same lights but maybe not. My Truck-Lites were plug and play with no fitment issues at all.
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Cal   H4 Headlights   Jan 10 2022, 04:14 PM
914Sixer   You will have to stick with what you have there 60...   Jan 10 2022, 04:47 PM
brant   even with the smaller bulbs... your still putting ...   Jan 10 2022, 04:54 PM
Cairo94507   Please consider doing the LED conversion on those ...   Jan 11 2022, 09:30 AM
JmuRiz   I have 60/55 H4 upgrades on mine...never had an is...   Jan 11 2022, 09:53 AM
Warren914   How will it look different with LED bulbs? Are you...   Jan 11 2022, 10:15 AM
JmuRiz   LED bulbs don't really work well, I'm goin...   Jan 11 2022, 10:48 AM
horizontally-opposed   LED bulbs don't really work well, I'm goi...   Jan 11 2022, 07:37 PM
Mark Henry   I broke down and bought a set of the 914rubber LED...   Jan 11 2022, 11:09 AM
Cairo94507   I had the GE Nighthawk lights in my car and they p...   Jan 11 2022, 11:22 AM
mepstein   I had the GE Nighthawk lights in my car and they ...   Jan 11 2022, 07:54 PM
ctc911ctc   I too HAVE the GE Nighthawks. However, I first ins...   Jan 15 2022, 10:46 AM
mepstein   I too HAVE the GE Nighthawks. However, I first in...   Jan 15 2022, 11:59 AM
fixer34   [quote name='ctc911ctc' post='2974758' date='Jan ...   Jan 15 2022, 01:12 PM
Driver174   Although my objective may be different; don't ...   Jan 11 2022, 11:52 AM
brant   I ran 80/100 for from 86? to 2017? The altern...   Jan 11 2022, 07:48 PM
iankarr   I put LED's in both of my 914s and the differe...   Jan 11 2022, 08:42 PM
Bruce Hinds   I put LED's in both of my 914s and the differ...   Nov 28 2022, 12:05 AM
JmuRiz   Holley is making a stock look one now too, might b...   Jan 11 2022, 10:28 PM
horizontally-opposed   Nice find! The Holley lights look good. Only q...   Jan 11 2022, 11:38 PM
horizontally-opposed   (With apologies to Cal for derailing his thread. I...   Jan 11 2022, 11:40 PM
rgalla9146   Note to self re 100w Halogens; ......install re...   Jan 12 2022, 06:58 AM
Cairo94507   I agree. Nathan seems to have found a great solut...   Jan 12 2022, 09:21 AM
Jamie   I installed VintageCar LED headlamps 2 yrs. ago af...   Jan 12 2022, 09:36 AM
rjames   I installed VintageCar LED headlamps 2 yrs. ago a...   Jan 12 2022, 10:38 AM
brant   I installed VintageCar LED headlamps 2 yrs. ago ...   Jan 12 2022, 11:21 AM
Jamie   I installed VintageCar LED headlamps 2 yrs. ago ...   Jan 12 2022, 11:45 AM
Warren914   My car has Hella glass H4 lenses already. Is the o...   Jan 13 2022, 06:41 AM
Jamie   My car has Hella glass H4 lenses already. Is the ...   Jan 13 2022, 08:06 AM
FlacaProductions   I have the 914rubber globes and LEDs in daylight/5...   Jan 12 2022, 10:29 AM
eric9144   LED's are a huge improvement, I agree on the a...   Jan 12 2022, 06:52 PM
BillJ   VintageLEDs went on the silver car i sold and they...   Jan 13 2022, 08:24 AM
ClayPerrine   When I built my six conversion, I put in the 914-6...   Jan 15 2022, 09:49 AM
danimal16   I installed the 914 Rubber H4 LED kit. What a dif...   Oct 21 2022, 02:20 PM
Root_Werks   Does anyone have issues with LED's freezing up...   Oct 21 2022, 02:26 PM
bbrock   Does anyone have issues with LED's freezing u...   Oct 21 2022, 06:41 PM
rjames   Does anyone have issues with LED's freezing ...   Oct 21 2022, 08:44 PM
Superhawk996   Too many dipshits on the road blinding oncoming t...   Oct 22 2022, 10:32 AM
bbrock   Too many dipshits on the road blinding oncoming ...   Oct 22 2022, 01:27 PM
horizontally-opposed   I've said it before and will say it again. I...   Oct 22 2022, 04:29 PM
bbrock   My hangup is wanting modern LED performance and e...   Oct 22 2022, 06:17 PM
Jamie   I've said it before and will say it again. ...   Nov 28 2022, 09:25 AM
kerensky   I've said it before and will say it again. I...   Nov 28 2022, 05:33 PM
Cairo94507   I see Vintage Car LED's have upgraded their 7...   Oct 21 2022, 04:26 PM
sportlicherFahrer   Does anyone have issues with LED's freezing u...   Oct 21 2022, 04:49 PM
Root_Werks   Does anyone have issues with LED's freezing ...   Oct 22 2022, 10:15 AM
bbrock   In the case of our Jeep, it was frost not snow. F...   Oct 22 2022, 06:33 PM
mb911   These are ones my sons 944 has and they are amazin...   Oct 22 2022, 07:06 AM
Cairo94507   My only question for those is how far out does the...   Oct 22 2022, 04:40 PM
burton73   let there be light! LED done by PMB PERFORMAN...   Nov 28 2022, 10:02 PM
porschetub   let there be light! LED done by PMB PERFORMA...   Nov 29 2022, 05:49 PM
burton73   let there be light Bob B   Nov 29 2022, 06:46 PM


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