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| TJB/914 |
Jan 5 2023, 02:10 PM
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Mid-Engn. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,446 Joined: 24-February 03 From: Plymouth & Petoskey, MI Member No.: 346 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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Looking for help if anyone makes these OEM Windshield Sticker's?
Are they different for every model year? Many years ago while restoring my 914 I used a solvent to clean up the windshield glass & destroyed the letters. I would like one for my OEM original windshield (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) This is off as recent 1976 in a local shop for repairs in this photo. Tom Michigan Attached thumbnail(s) |
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| wonkipop |
Jan 8 2023, 12:44 AM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,277 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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alright @JeffBowlsby
i dug into heat protected glass this afternoon. its not tint - here is the distinction. @vitamin914 will correct me if i am way wrong. tints work by cutting down in the visible spectrum of light. this was incompatible with transparency standards at that time. 70%. the glass itself was almost at the 70% all on its own before you even thought of tinting = no tinting. often even on side glass. at least not legally back then. so they came up with heat absorbing glass. which deals with light in the infrared spectrum but does not affect visible wavelengths. so they could do heat control and still pass visibility/transparency regulation. the modern form of one of these treatments or types of glass more properly is IRR infra-red reflectance glass. it works just as the name suggests. reflects the heat spectrum and glass does not absorb it. its proper abbreviation is IRR. sound familiar? the earlier form was infra-red absorbent glass. IRA. not the irish republican army the nuns used to collect for. it didn't really work. it absorbs the infra-red before it hits the interior but it ends up heating the glass itself which then radiants into the interior. they really don't use this one any more. but it was the tech back in the day with 914s and other 70s cars. its pretty obvious which screens are the heat protected screens - they are the ones that have IRA in the description line after the makers name. so i am going to have to go back to my original position which is i don't agree with you that F means tint. there was no tint glass in 914s from factory. only heat control. i know that upsets the reasoning on the side glass, but there has to be some other meaning to the 1 or F or 1F code there. also thanks to @vitamin914 's superb breakdown on glass for idiots like me, i can now understand what is going on with early cars referring to plate and later ones referring to F or as i believe F to mean Float glass. to begin with in early cars they were making the primary sheets of glass for the build up of the windscreens from plate glass. or as it was sometimes known. sheet glass. and as vitamin points out, older process, caused ripples in glass, had to be polished and ground flat to remove distortions in the case of windscreens, or even high end architectural use. float let them produce flat sheets of glass more effeciently with either no polishing or very minimal polishing. cheaper in the long run. so i think what we see with 914 windscreens is the flip over down at the kinonglas factory where they go from using plate or sheet glass as the raw base material to float glass. and that happens around about 73 or so. maybe 74. the earlier ones are using S. the later ones have the same descriptions for glass but use F. its basically essentially the same material just made a different way. of course it would have involved a whole new raft of tests and certificates because thats how bureacracy works. and maybe it had slightly different impact performance outcomes. who knows. you would have to see those codes to pick up any subtleties. so at this stage i am saying the F/F is the clear screen. or it might be S/S or even just described as plate glass in earlier versions. but if its got IRA in it, then its the heat control glass. and that can either have F or S in it depending on whether its pre 73/74 or after. will need to find a better explanation for the side glass i think. you might be correct about it in relation to side glass and heat control but it does not mean the logic extends to the windscreen so abruptly or directly. like F is all there is to it. i could expand further. maybe they got performance out of vertical side glass that was F equal to performance out of IRA simply as a result of side glass being vertical and windscreen glass laying over on an angle and being laminated. ie this gave equal performance all round for the so called heat performing glass. given orientation of surfaces and sun assumed to be overhead. and when you used the straight up F/F windscreen it gave the same performance as the clear or 1 grade glass on the side windows. my solar orientation on architectural windows is kicking in here. back windows just got 1 grade DELOCURE because its passively shaded by the roll bar anyway. all they want there is heated glass for condensation control as a lux feature. end of research. been another roaster of a day here that denied me my 914 drive. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) |
TJB/914 914 Windshield inside OEM Glass Sticker logo? Jan 5 2023, 02:10 PM
SteveL Pretty sure That is a stamp, not a sticker Jan 5 2023, 03:19 PM
TJB/914
Pretty sure That is a stamp, not a sticker
Stev... Jan 5 2023, 03:32 PM
JeffBowlsby ^^^agree. Not a sticker. Jan 5 2023, 03:24 PM
rick 918-S I thought OEM was sigla.and it is etched in the gl... Jan 5 2023, 03:28 PM
TJB/914
I thought OEM was sigla.and it is etched in the g... Jan 5 2023, 03:36 PM

wonkipop
I thought OEM was sigla.and it is etched in the ... Jan 5 2023, 06:11 PM
TJB/914
I thought OEM was sigla.and it is etched in the g... Jan 5 2023, 03:38 PM
vitamin914 I was a tooling engineer at PPG in the late 80s. ... Jan 5 2023, 04:06 PM
JeffBowlsby Interesting. Can you decipher the date or date co... Jan 5 2023, 04:41 PM
wonkipop
Interesting. Can you decipher the date or date c... Jan 5 2023, 07:10 PM
vitamin914
Interesting. Can you decipher the date or date c... Jan 6 2023, 08:02 AM
wonkipop ok - did some googling as i am always curious.
ki... Jan 5 2023, 06:53 PM
Mikey914 It's like a tempering bug. It's a frit sta... Jan 5 2023, 07:11 PM
TJB/914 Interesting 914 factory information.
I am cleanin... Jan 5 2023, 07:18 PM
wonkipop
Interesting 914 factory information.
I am cleani... Jan 5 2023, 07:33 PM
JeffBowlsby The ziggy-zaggy line is the Sigla logo. Jan 5 2023, 08:30 PM
wonkipop
The ziggy-zaggy line is the Sigla logo.
just to... Jan 5 2023, 09:04 PM
wonkipop @JeffBowlsby .
i have a feeling (hunch) but could... Jan 5 2023, 09:21 PM
wonkipop here is how you tell who made the windscreen.
its ... Jan 5 2023, 11:48 PM
vitamin914
the weird logo in the sudglas screen is not a... Jan 6 2023, 06:20 AM
wonkipop amusing bonus digging around on kraut glass.
its r... Jan 6 2023, 12:49 AM
scott_in_nh While my originality concerns don't extend to ... Jan 6 2023, 08:38 AM
vitamin914
While my originality concerns don't extend to... Jan 6 2023, 11:16 AM
TJB/914 :woohoo:
This really opened up the 914 brain tr... Jan 6 2023, 11:06 AM
scott_in_nh Thanks! It makes sense that the year is 1990 a... Jan 6 2023, 11:50 AM
JeffBowlsby What I am seeing in many of the 914 images posted ... Jan 6 2023, 12:03 PM
wonkipop
What I am seeing in many of the 914 images posted... Jan 6 2023, 08:04 PM
wonkipop wow @vitamin914
interesting info download. tha... Jan 6 2023, 07:44 PM
JeffBowlsby Found this with a google search. I wonder what AB... Jan 6 2023, 09:08 PM
wonkipop
Found this with a google search. I wonder what A... Jan 6 2023, 10:29 PM
JeffBowlsby I wonder if you can a few missing smdescriotions s... Jan 6 2023, 11:41 PM
wonkipop
I wonder if you can a few missing smdescriotions ... Jan 6 2023, 11:55 PM
JeffBowlsby I don’t recall, but I don’t think so. Maybe u... Jan 6 2023, 11:02 PM
wonkipop
I don’t recall, but I don’t think so. Maybe ... Jan 7 2023, 12:16 AM
wonkipop @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu... Jan 6 2023, 11:16 PM
wonkipop by the way i think the herz symbol is cute on the ... Jan 7 2023, 12:03 AM
wonkipop @JeffBowlsby
i got my crack researcher on to it.... Jan 7 2023, 01:11 AM
JeffBowlsby A couple of things I am curious about:
On the sid... Jan 7 2023, 11:07 AM
wonkipop @JeffBowlsby
re tough v tempered. down here we... Jan 7 2023, 04:09 PM
wonkipop @JeffBowlsby
i had a look at the car on BAT you ... Jan 7 2023, 04:33 PM
wonkipop to explain a little further about the front screen... Jan 7 2023, 05:41 PM
wonkipop @JeffBowlsby
getting a bit closer on the DELODUR... Jan 7 2023, 06:49 PM
vitamin914 @wonkipop
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/... Jan 7 2023, 07:12 PM
wonkipop thanks for that @vitamin914
your remarks regard... Jan 7 2023, 07:37 PM
wonkipop @vitamin914
that is just brilliant about the sun... Jan 7 2023, 07:52 PM
wonkipop @JeffBowlsby
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bb... Jan 7 2023, 08:30 PM
wonkipop @JeffBowlsby
ok i just went back into PET on win... Jan 7 2023, 08:58 PM
wonkipop @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu... Jan 7 2023, 09:43 PM
wonkipop @JeffBowlsby
one more for you.
i was trying to t... Jan 7 2023, 11:01 PM
wonkipop @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu... Jan 8 2023, 01:12 AM
vitamin914 Heat absorbing glass has been around for an awfull... Jan 8 2023, 02:44 PM
wonkipop
Heat absorbing glass has been around for an awful... Jan 8 2023, 03:19 PM
vitamin914
Heat absorbing glass has been around for an awfu... Jan 8 2023, 07:09 PM
wonkipop
[quote name='wonkipop' post='3049984' date='Jan 8... Jan 9 2023, 03:20 PM
wonkipop @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu... Jan 8 2023, 03:10 PM
StarBear @wonkipop
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/... Jan 9 2023, 10:44 AM
wonkipop
@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?show... Jan 9 2023, 03:08 PM
StarBear
[quote name='StarBear' post='3050135' date='Jan 9... Jan 9 2023, 03:52 PM
vitamin914 @StarBear
Is this what the trademark looks like ... Jan 9 2023, 04:12 PM
wonkipop
@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?show... Jan 9 2023, 04:36 PM
StarBear
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s... Jan 9 2023, 04:42 PM
StarBear
@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?show... Jan 10 2023, 08:12 AM
wonkipop @vitamin914
i'm just looking at your certifi... Jan 9 2023, 04:45 PM
vitamin914
@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?show... Jan 9 2023, 08:11 PM
wonkipop
[quote name='wonkipop' post='3050193' date='Jan 9... Jan 9 2023, 08:19 PM
wonkipop @StarBear
thats great you have your "window... Jan 9 2023, 04:54 PM
wonkipop we just need @Van B to pipe in now. :D :D
he h... Jan 9 2023, 05:00 PM
StarBear Here it is. “tinted windshield”. Side glass no... Jan 9 2023, 05:03 PM
wonkipop so this is the late 74 2.0 that was on BAT and ver... Jan 9 2023, 05:09 PM
JeffBowlsby Clear glass was standard and the rear glass was al... Jan 9 2023, 05:23 PM
wonkipop
Clear glass was standard and the rear glass was a... Jan 9 2023, 05:54 PM
wonkipop
Clear glass was standard and the rear glass was a... Jan 11 2023, 05:30 PM
davep
Clear glass was standard and the rear glass was a... Jan 16 2023, 07:26 AM
Van B Here ya go. Such a shame that I have the crack ov... Jan 9 2023, 06:10 PM
wonkipop @Van B
:beer2: :beer2: :beer2: :beer2:
i t... Jan 9 2023, 06:12 PM
BR9 What about my rare Mexican front windshield? Jan 9 2023, 06:19 PM
wonkipop
What about my rare Mexican front windshield?
:... Jan 9 2023, 06:36 PM
wonkipop @Van B and [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2... Jan 9 2023, 06:44 PM
sb914 :blowup: :deadhorse2: 4 pages ? :poke:
Sorry I... Jan 9 2023, 08:13 PM
wonkipop
:blowup: :deadhorse2: 4 pages ? :poke:
Sorry ... Jan 9 2023, 08:25 PM
vitamin914
:blowup: :deadhorse2: 4 pages ? :poke:
Sorry ... Jan 9 2023, 08:31 PM
dgw I think this thread is hilarious. I like to read t... Jan 9 2023, 10:33 PM
wonkipop
I think this thread is hilarious. I like to read ... Jan 10 2023, 12:09 AM
vitamin914
I think this thread is hilarious. I like to read ... Jan 10 2023, 07:34 AM

wonkipop
I think this thread is hilarious. I like to read... Jan 10 2023, 02:49 PM
StarBear
I think this thread is hilarious. I like to read ... Jan 10 2023, 08:07 AM
L-Jet914 @wonkipop Unfortunately my windshield was replace... Jan 10 2023, 02:15 PM
wonkipop some more trivia you don't have to read :beer... Jan 10 2023, 02:34 PM
Van B Now does sekurit still make replacement glass? Th... Jan 10 2023, 06:49 PM
wonkipop
Now does sekurit still make replacement glass? T... Jan 10 2023, 06:57 PM
wonkipop a titbit at the end for the front badge conscious.... Jan 10 2023, 06:51 PM
Van B Wonkipop. That logo is all over porsche parts. I ... Jan 10 2023, 06:57 PM
wonkipop
Wonkipop. That logo is all over porsche parts. I... Jan 10 2023, 06:59 PM
JeffBowlsby How is Kinonglas pronounced (phonetically)?
Kai-n... Jan 10 2023, 08:34 PM
SirAndy
How is Kinonglas pronounced (phonetically)?
Kai-... Jan 10 2023, 08:51 PM
JeffBowlsby I reviewed that page too the other day and have th... Jan 11 2023, 05:56 PM
wonkipop
I reviewed that page too the other day and have t... Jan 11 2023, 06:25 PM
wonkipop condensed version over in originality section.
jus... Jan 17 2023, 06:23 AM![]() ![]() |
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