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| TJB/914 |
Jan 5 2023, 02:10 PM
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Mid-Engn. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,446 Joined: 24-February 03 From: Plymouth & Petoskey, MI Member No.: 346 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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Looking for help if anyone makes these OEM Windshield Sticker's?
Are they different for every model year? Many years ago while restoring my 914 I used a solvent to clean up the windshield glass & destroyed the letters. I would like one for my OEM original windshield (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) This is off as recent 1976 in a local shop for repairs in this photo. Tom Michigan Attached thumbnail(s) |
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| vitamin914 |
Jan 8 2023, 02:44 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 202 Joined: 8-September 21 From: Toronto Canada Member No.: 25,893 Region Association: Canada
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Heat absorbing glass has been around for an awfully long time. PPG came out with Solex (now called Solexia by the new owners) back in the 1930s. Nothing really exotic about it, the glass has a greenish tinge or tint. It basically adds an impurity of iron and or chromium ions that does not transmit IR but absorbs it. I think it also has higher UV absorption too. The car still gets hot inside.
PPG had IR reflective glass (Sungate?) but I think this was a metallic coating on the inside next to the vinyl to reflect IR. They used to apply it with sputter coating ion deposition technology. From the late 80s onwards there was a big push to add technology to laminated parts. Thin film deposition gave better IR /UV performance (but would stop your radar detector from working too). Rain sensors, heated w/s, heads up display reflectors and all kinds of stuff. Most of it was gimmicky and short lived. About the only thing I sometimes see these days is a heating grid under the parked wipers for freezing rain. But I doubt these are useful in places like Los Angeles or Sydney. One of my 914's replaced w/s is made with Solex glasss so it has been around for ages and continues to be made (the other w/s is made by Sigla so not OEM either). I'm sure other companies have identical equivalents - patents have long run out. ![]() I noticed something interesting when I was in a junk yard looking at dead 914s. All the cars that had heated rear windows had clear (not the greenish heat absorbing tint) glass all around. I guess it sort of makes sense - you don't need heat protection glass if the car is in a cold climate with a heated back window... I harvested a heated back window from one of the five dead 914s. Speaking of heated back windows... Tin float glass picks up tin ions in the surface that contacts the molten tin bath. With a UV light source, you can identify the tin side. It fluoresces a whitish glow compared to the non tin side. This is important for making windows with heated circuits. If the heated circuit is printed on the tin side it will appear a dark reddish brown color from the outside of the vehicle. If printed on the non tin side it would be a lighter orange color. Most auto companies wanted it darker although there were a few Japanese makers that wanted the lighter color ...more trivia. |
| wonkipop |
Jan 8 2023, 03:19 PM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,277 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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Heat absorbing glass has been around for an awfully long time. PPG came out with Solex (now called Solexia by the new owners) back in the 1930s. Nothing really exotic about it, the glass has a greenish tinge or tint. It basically adds an impurity of iron and or chromium ions that does not transmit IR but absorbs it. I think it also has higher UV absorption too. The car still gets hot inside. excellent bit of info @vitamin914 . i'd say thats pretty much all a 914 "tinted" screen is. the DELODUR 1 on the side windows looks like its what we call low iron or ultra clear glass in construction circles. DELODUR 1 is probably toughened plate or sheet versus DELODUR F being toughened float. the glass would have come out of two different processes or production lines. the float glass they were using appears to have been naturally greener (darker) due to its composition. they just amped it up with the outer layer of the windscreen lamination for the so called tinted screen with extra ingredients in the glass mix as you say. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) i'll be interested to see if porsche museum gets back to me. the curator did last time i wrote. so long as you are very specific about what you want and it won't take too much time he wanders over with his iphone, takes a snap and emails it directly. |
TJB/914 914 Windshield inside OEM Glass Sticker logo? Jan 5 2023, 02:10 PM
SteveL Pretty sure That is a stamp, not a sticker Jan 5 2023, 03:19 PM
TJB/914
Pretty sure That is a stamp, not a sticker
Stev... Jan 5 2023, 03:32 PM
JeffBowlsby ^^^agree. Not a sticker. Jan 5 2023, 03:24 PM
rick 918-S I thought OEM was sigla.and it is etched in the gl... Jan 5 2023, 03:28 PM
TJB/914
I thought OEM was sigla.and it is etched in the g... Jan 5 2023, 03:36 PM

wonkipop
I thought OEM was sigla.and it is etched in the ... Jan 5 2023, 06:11 PM
TJB/914
I thought OEM was sigla.and it is etched in the g... Jan 5 2023, 03:38 PM
vitamin914 I was a tooling engineer at PPG in the late 80s. ... Jan 5 2023, 04:06 PM
JeffBowlsby Interesting. Can you decipher the date or date co... Jan 5 2023, 04:41 PM
wonkipop
Interesting. Can you decipher the date or date c... Jan 5 2023, 07:10 PM
vitamin914
Interesting. Can you decipher the date or date c... Jan 6 2023, 08:02 AM
wonkipop ok - did some googling as i am always curious.
ki... Jan 5 2023, 06:53 PM
Mikey914 It's like a tempering bug. It's a frit sta... Jan 5 2023, 07:11 PM
TJB/914 Interesting 914 factory information.
I am cleanin... Jan 5 2023, 07:18 PM
wonkipop
Interesting 914 factory information.
I am cleani... Jan 5 2023, 07:33 PM
JeffBowlsby The ziggy-zaggy line is the Sigla logo. Jan 5 2023, 08:30 PM
wonkipop
The ziggy-zaggy line is the Sigla logo.
just to... Jan 5 2023, 09:04 PM
wonkipop @JeffBowlsby .
i have a feeling (hunch) but could... Jan 5 2023, 09:21 PM
wonkipop here is how you tell who made the windscreen.
its ... Jan 5 2023, 11:48 PM
vitamin914
the weird logo in the sudglas screen is not a... Jan 6 2023, 06:20 AM
wonkipop amusing bonus digging around on kraut glass.
its r... Jan 6 2023, 12:49 AM
scott_in_nh While my originality concerns don't extend to ... Jan 6 2023, 08:38 AM
vitamin914
While my originality concerns don't extend to... Jan 6 2023, 11:16 AM
TJB/914 :woohoo:
This really opened up the 914 brain tr... Jan 6 2023, 11:06 AM
scott_in_nh Thanks! It makes sense that the year is 1990 a... Jan 6 2023, 11:50 AM
JeffBowlsby What I am seeing in many of the 914 images posted ... Jan 6 2023, 12:03 PM
wonkipop
What I am seeing in many of the 914 images posted... Jan 6 2023, 08:04 PM
wonkipop wow @vitamin914
interesting info download. tha... Jan 6 2023, 07:44 PM
JeffBowlsby Found this with a google search. I wonder what AB... Jan 6 2023, 09:08 PM
wonkipop
Found this with a google search. I wonder what A... Jan 6 2023, 10:29 PM
JeffBowlsby I wonder if you can a few missing smdescriotions s... Jan 6 2023, 11:41 PM
wonkipop
I wonder if you can a few missing smdescriotions ... Jan 6 2023, 11:55 PM
JeffBowlsby I don’t recall, but I don’t think so. Maybe u... Jan 6 2023, 11:02 PM
wonkipop
I don’t recall, but I don’t think so. Maybe ... Jan 7 2023, 12:16 AM
wonkipop @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu... Jan 6 2023, 11:16 PM
wonkipop by the way i think the herz symbol is cute on the ... Jan 7 2023, 12:03 AM
wonkipop @JeffBowlsby
i got my crack researcher on to it.... Jan 7 2023, 01:11 AM
JeffBowlsby A couple of things I am curious about:
On the sid... Jan 7 2023, 11:07 AM
wonkipop @JeffBowlsby
re tough v tempered. down here we... Jan 7 2023, 04:09 PM
wonkipop @JeffBowlsby
i had a look at the car on BAT you ... Jan 7 2023, 04:33 PM
wonkipop to explain a little further about the front screen... Jan 7 2023, 05:41 PM
wonkipop @JeffBowlsby
getting a bit closer on the DELODUR... Jan 7 2023, 06:49 PM
vitamin914 @wonkipop
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/... Jan 7 2023, 07:12 PM
wonkipop thanks for that @vitamin914
your remarks regard... Jan 7 2023, 07:37 PM
wonkipop @vitamin914
that is just brilliant about the sun... Jan 7 2023, 07:52 PM
wonkipop @JeffBowlsby
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bb... Jan 7 2023, 08:30 PM
wonkipop @JeffBowlsby
ok i just went back into PET on win... Jan 7 2023, 08:58 PM
wonkipop @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu... Jan 7 2023, 09:43 PM
wonkipop @JeffBowlsby
one more for you.
i was trying to t... Jan 7 2023, 11:01 PM
wonkipop alright @JeffBowlsby
i dug into heat protected ... Jan 8 2023, 12:44 AM
wonkipop @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu... Jan 8 2023, 01:12 AM
vitamin914
Heat absorbing glass has been around for an awfu... Jan 8 2023, 07:09 PM
wonkipop
[quote name='wonkipop' post='3049984' date='Jan 8... Jan 9 2023, 03:20 PM
wonkipop @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu... Jan 8 2023, 03:10 PM
StarBear @wonkipop
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/... Jan 9 2023, 10:44 AM
wonkipop
@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?show... Jan 9 2023, 03:08 PM
StarBear
[quote name='StarBear' post='3050135' date='Jan 9... Jan 9 2023, 03:52 PM
vitamin914 @StarBear
Is this what the trademark looks like ... Jan 9 2023, 04:12 PM
wonkipop
@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?show... Jan 9 2023, 04:36 PM
StarBear
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s... Jan 9 2023, 04:42 PM
StarBear
@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?show... Jan 10 2023, 08:12 AM
wonkipop @vitamin914
i'm just looking at your certifi... Jan 9 2023, 04:45 PM
vitamin914
@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?show... Jan 9 2023, 08:11 PM
wonkipop
[quote name='wonkipop' post='3050193' date='Jan 9... Jan 9 2023, 08:19 PM
wonkipop @StarBear
thats great you have your "window... Jan 9 2023, 04:54 PM
wonkipop we just need @Van B to pipe in now. :D :D
he h... Jan 9 2023, 05:00 PM
StarBear Here it is. “tinted windshield”. Side glass no... Jan 9 2023, 05:03 PM
wonkipop so this is the late 74 2.0 that was on BAT and ver... Jan 9 2023, 05:09 PM
JeffBowlsby Clear glass was standard and the rear glass was al... Jan 9 2023, 05:23 PM
wonkipop
Clear glass was standard and the rear glass was a... Jan 9 2023, 05:54 PM
wonkipop
Clear glass was standard and the rear glass was a... Jan 11 2023, 05:30 PM
davep
Clear glass was standard and the rear glass was a... Jan 16 2023, 07:26 AM
Van B Here ya go. Such a shame that I have the crack ov... Jan 9 2023, 06:10 PM
wonkipop @Van B
:beer2: :beer2: :beer2: :beer2:
i t... Jan 9 2023, 06:12 PM
BR9 What about my rare Mexican front windshield? Jan 9 2023, 06:19 PM
wonkipop
What about my rare Mexican front windshield?
:... Jan 9 2023, 06:36 PM
wonkipop @Van B and [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2... Jan 9 2023, 06:44 PM
sb914 :blowup: :deadhorse2: 4 pages ? :poke:
Sorry I... Jan 9 2023, 08:13 PM
wonkipop
:blowup: :deadhorse2: 4 pages ? :poke:
Sorry ... Jan 9 2023, 08:25 PM
vitamin914
:blowup: :deadhorse2: 4 pages ? :poke:
Sorry ... Jan 9 2023, 08:31 PM
dgw I think this thread is hilarious. I like to read t... Jan 9 2023, 10:33 PM
wonkipop
I think this thread is hilarious. I like to read ... Jan 10 2023, 12:09 AM
vitamin914
I think this thread is hilarious. I like to read ... Jan 10 2023, 07:34 AM

wonkipop
I think this thread is hilarious. I like to read... Jan 10 2023, 02:49 PM
StarBear
I think this thread is hilarious. I like to read ... Jan 10 2023, 08:07 AM
L-Jet914 @wonkipop Unfortunately my windshield was replace... Jan 10 2023, 02:15 PM
wonkipop some more trivia you don't have to read :beer... Jan 10 2023, 02:34 PM
Van B Now does sekurit still make replacement glass? Th... Jan 10 2023, 06:49 PM
wonkipop
Now does sekurit still make replacement glass? T... Jan 10 2023, 06:57 PM
wonkipop a titbit at the end for the front badge conscious.... Jan 10 2023, 06:51 PM
Van B Wonkipop. That logo is all over porsche parts. I ... Jan 10 2023, 06:57 PM
wonkipop
Wonkipop. That logo is all over porsche parts. I... Jan 10 2023, 06:59 PM
JeffBowlsby How is Kinonglas pronounced (phonetically)?
Kai-n... Jan 10 2023, 08:34 PM
SirAndy
How is Kinonglas pronounced (phonetically)?
Kai-... Jan 10 2023, 08:51 PM
JeffBowlsby I reviewed that page too the other day and have th... Jan 11 2023, 05:56 PM
wonkipop
I reviewed that page too the other day and have t... Jan 11 2023, 06:25 PM
wonkipop condensed version over in originality section.
jus... Jan 17 2023, 06:23 AM![]() ![]() |
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