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> 914 Windshield inside OEM Glass Sticker logo?, Anyone making these OEM Windshield Mfg. Stickers
TJB/914
post Jan 5 2023, 02:10 PM
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Looking for help if anyone makes these OEM Windshield Sticker's?
Are they different for every model year?
Many years ago while restoring my 914 I used a solvent to clean up the windshield glass & destroyed the letters. I would like one for my OEM original windshield (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif)
This is off as recent 1976 in a local shop for repairs in this photo.
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post Jan 9 2023, 10:33 PM
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I think this thread is hilarious. I like to read the BAT auctions for 356's. Those guys are anal but entertaining. You guys are having fun with glass and interesting and entertaining. One can always learn something new about Porsches from threads like this.
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post Jan 10 2023, 12:09 AM
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QUOTE(dgw @ Jan 9 2023, 10:33 PM) *

I think this thread is hilarious. I like to read the BAT auctions for 356's. Those guys are anal but entertaining. You guys are having fun with glass and interesting and entertaining. One can always learn something new about Porsches from threads like this.


yeah (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
we are just having fun.
i go nowhere near concourses and all that.
in fact i got a pm from @TJB/914 this morning, the guy who started this thread, delighted with our meanderings. he started all this with a perfectly reasonable question,
he wanted to reproduce a sticker for his windscreen and restoration. and of course, there is no right answer. but he is enjoying the info. if it helps him make a repro sticker well its a good thing. isn't it. we are just all out to have fun preserving and restoring cars - or as the case may be totally modifying them into monsters. all good (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

and sh#t i've just learned heaps from @vitamin914 about glass and windscreens i can take into everyday up to the minute purchases of screens for my other cars which are still newish and contemporary. fricken pricelss. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

but @JeffBowlsby in his meticulous and careful way asked a few pages back the right question, linking DOT 31 to a manufacturer. can it be done.
well i've looked and looked and i can't reach far enough back in time to do that.
its just not there in the digital files of the Dept. of Transport USA.
but i can find a current list.
and i just cracked something with it that Jeff wants to know.

so DOT 31 is unfindable.

but DOT 25 still exists.

and i notice its on all the SIGLA screens.
but i wasn't looking hard enough at the side windows. pardon my lack of observation Jeff.
they are also DOT 25.

that means same manufacturer.
DOT 25 is flachglas Automotive GMBH germany.
still exists.
company website shows history.
they made the SIGLA windscreens. company history says so along with DOT number.
but obviously they also made the DELODUR side windows.
so the writing on those makes sense now.
DELODUR is made by flachglass (makers of SIGLA brand windscreens) and the DELODUR is a process or toughening technique patented by SEKURIT. in this case licensed from SEKURIT. so the LIZ. SEKURIT is clear in its meaning now.

so you have sigla windscreen and DELODUR side glass you have a car where all the glass came from Flachglass. SIGLA screens fitted to 914s makes perfect sense.

you have a Kristall screen made by Kinonglas - is a combination of glass from two companies. the windscreen from Kinonglas, side glass from flachglas.
at some point Kinonglas was sold to ST. GOBAIN/SEKURIT and disappeared from existence.
after 914 production finished. DOT 31 disappeared with it from the records.
probably if you looked around in a physical archive in DOT you might find an ancient list.
but who cares.

here is the current DOT list you can dig up.

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and here is a bonus for @JeffBowlsby .
came up randomly in one of my searches.
stuff that comes up i have no idea how it appears or how to back track it into some bigger DOT archived.
but its actually correspondence between SEKURIT and the DOT with an inquiry about just what they have to print on the windscreens and it dates from 1973.
more precisely the company is SEKURIT GLAS UNION GMBH.
its very clear too its referring to Kinonglas Kristall.
so in some way Kinonglas is hooked up to SEKURIT at that point in some kind of association or sub company.

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TJB/914   914 Windshield inside OEM Glass Sticker logo?   Jan 5 2023, 02:10 PM
SteveL   Pretty sure That is a stamp, not a sticker   Jan 5 2023, 03:19 PM
TJB/914   Pretty sure That is a stamp, not a sticker Stev...   Jan 5 2023, 03:32 PM
JeffBowlsby   ^^^agree. Not a sticker.   Jan 5 2023, 03:24 PM
rick 918-S   I thought OEM was sigla.and it is etched in the gl...   Jan 5 2023, 03:28 PM
TJB/914   I thought OEM was sigla.and it is etched in the g...   Jan 5 2023, 03:36 PM
wonkipop   I thought OEM was sigla.and it is etched in the ...   Jan 5 2023, 06:11 PM
TJB/914   I thought OEM was sigla.and it is etched in the g...   Jan 5 2023, 03:38 PM
vitamin914   I was a tooling engineer at PPG in the late 80s. ...   Jan 5 2023, 04:06 PM
JeffBowlsby   Interesting. Can you decipher the date or date co...   Jan 5 2023, 04:41 PM
wonkipop   Interesting. Can you decipher the date or date c...   Jan 5 2023, 07:10 PM
vitamin914   Interesting. Can you decipher the date or date c...   Jan 6 2023, 08:02 AM
wonkipop   ok - did some googling as i am always curious. ki...   Jan 5 2023, 06:53 PM
Mikey914   It's like a tempering bug. It's a frit sta...   Jan 5 2023, 07:11 PM
TJB/914   Interesting 914 factory information. I am cleanin...   Jan 5 2023, 07:18 PM
wonkipop   Interesting 914 factory information. I am cleani...   Jan 5 2023, 07:33 PM
JeffBowlsby   The ziggy-zaggy line is the Sigla logo.   Jan 5 2023, 08:30 PM
wonkipop   The ziggy-zaggy line is the Sigla logo. just to...   Jan 5 2023, 09:04 PM
wonkipop   @JeffBowlsby . i have a feeling (hunch) but could...   Jan 5 2023, 09:21 PM
wonkipop   here is how you tell who made the windscreen. its ...   Jan 5 2023, 11:48 PM
vitamin914   the weird logo in the sudglas screen is not a...   Jan 6 2023, 06:20 AM
wonkipop   amusing bonus digging around on kraut glass. its r...   Jan 6 2023, 12:49 AM
scott_in_nh   While my originality concerns don't extend to ...   Jan 6 2023, 08:38 AM
vitamin914   While my originality concerns don't extend to...   Jan 6 2023, 11:16 AM
TJB/914   :woohoo: This really opened up the 914 brain tr...   Jan 6 2023, 11:06 AM
scott_in_nh   Thanks! It makes sense that the year is 1990 a...   Jan 6 2023, 11:50 AM
JeffBowlsby   What I am seeing in many of the 914 images posted ...   Jan 6 2023, 12:03 PM
wonkipop   What I am seeing in many of the 914 images posted...   Jan 6 2023, 08:04 PM
wonkipop   wow @vitamin914 interesting info download. tha...   Jan 6 2023, 07:44 PM
JeffBowlsby   Found this with a google search. I wonder what AB...   Jan 6 2023, 09:08 PM
wonkipop   Found this with a google search. I wonder what A...   Jan 6 2023, 10:29 PM
JeffBowlsby   I wonder if you can a few missing smdescriotions s...   Jan 6 2023, 11:41 PM
wonkipop   I wonder if you can a few missing smdescriotions ...   Jan 6 2023, 11:55 PM
JeffBowlsby   I don’t recall, but I don’t think so. Maybe u...   Jan 6 2023, 11:02 PM
wonkipop   I don’t recall, but I don’t think so. Maybe ...   Jan 7 2023, 12:16 AM
wonkipop   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu...   Jan 6 2023, 11:16 PM
wonkipop   by the way i think the herz symbol is cute on the ...   Jan 7 2023, 12:03 AM
wonkipop   @JeffBowlsby i got my crack researcher on to it....   Jan 7 2023, 01:11 AM
JeffBowlsby   A couple of things I am curious about: On the sid...   Jan 7 2023, 11:07 AM
wonkipop   @JeffBowlsby re tough v tempered. down here we...   Jan 7 2023, 04:09 PM
wonkipop   @JeffBowlsby i had a look at the car on BAT you ...   Jan 7 2023, 04:33 PM
wonkipop   to explain a little further about the front screen...   Jan 7 2023, 05:41 PM
wonkipop   @JeffBowlsby getting a bit closer on the DELODUR...   Jan 7 2023, 06:49 PM
vitamin914   @wonkipop [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/...   Jan 7 2023, 07:12 PM
wonkipop   thanks for that @vitamin914 your remarks regard...   Jan 7 2023, 07:37 PM
wonkipop   @vitamin914 that is just brilliant about the sun...   Jan 7 2023, 07:52 PM
wonkipop   @JeffBowlsby [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bb...   Jan 7 2023, 08:30 PM
wonkipop   @JeffBowlsby ok i just went back into PET on win...   Jan 7 2023, 08:58 PM
wonkipop   @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu...   Jan 7 2023, 09:43 PM
wonkipop   @JeffBowlsby one more for you. i was trying to t...   Jan 7 2023, 11:01 PM
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wonkipop   Heat absorbing glass has been around for an awful...   Jan 8 2023, 03:19 PM
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wonkipop   [quote name='wonkipop' post='3049984' date='Jan 8...   Jan 9 2023, 03:20 PM
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StarBear   [quote name='StarBear' post='3050135' date='Jan 9...   Jan 9 2023, 03:52 PM
vitamin914   @StarBear Is this what the trademark looks like ...   Jan 9 2023, 04:12 PM
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wonkipop   [quote name='wonkipop' post='3050193' date='Jan 9...   Jan 9 2023, 08:19 PM
wonkipop   @StarBear thats great you have your "window...   Jan 9 2023, 04:54 PM
wonkipop   we just need @Van B to pipe in now. :D :D he h...   Jan 9 2023, 05:00 PM
StarBear   Here it is. “tinted windshield”. Side glass no...   Jan 9 2023, 05:03 PM
wonkipop   so this is the late 74 2.0 that was on BAT and ver...   Jan 9 2023, 05:09 PM
JeffBowlsby   Clear glass was standard and the rear glass was al...   Jan 9 2023, 05:23 PM
wonkipop   Clear glass was standard and the rear glass was a...   Jan 9 2023, 05:54 PM
wonkipop   Clear glass was standard and the rear glass was a...   Jan 11 2023, 05:30 PM
davep   Clear glass was standard and the rear glass was a...   Jan 16 2023, 07:26 AM
Van B   Here ya go. Such a shame that I have the crack ov...   Jan 9 2023, 06:10 PM
wonkipop   @Van B :beer2: :beer2: :beer2: :beer2: i t...   Jan 9 2023, 06:12 PM
BR9   What about my rare Mexican front windshield?   Jan 9 2023, 06:19 PM
wonkipop   What about my rare Mexican front windshield? :...   Jan 9 2023, 06:36 PM
wonkipop   @Van B and [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2...   Jan 9 2023, 06:44 PM
sb914   :blowup: :deadhorse2: 4 pages ? :poke: Sorry I...   Jan 9 2023, 08:13 PM
wonkipop   :blowup: :deadhorse2: 4 pages ? :poke: Sorry ...   Jan 9 2023, 08:25 PM
vitamin914   :blowup: :deadhorse2: 4 pages ? :poke: Sorry ...   Jan 9 2023, 08:31 PM
dgw   I think this thread is hilarious. I like to read t...   Jan 9 2023, 10:33 PM
wonkipop   I think this thread is hilarious. I like to read ...   Jan 10 2023, 12:09 AM
vitamin914   I think this thread is hilarious. I like to read ...   Jan 10 2023, 07:34 AM
wonkipop   I think this thread is hilarious. I like to read...   Jan 10 2023, 02:49 PM
StarBear   I think this thread is hilarious. I like to read ...   Jan 10 2023, 08:07 AM
L-Jet914   @wonkipop Unfortunately my windshield was replace...   Jan 10 2023, 02:15 PM
wonkipop   some more trivia you don't have to read :beer...   Jan 10 2023, 02:34 PM
Van B   Now does sekurit still make replacement glass? Th...   Jan 10 2023, 06:49 PM
wonkipop   Now does sekurit still make replacement glass? T...   Jan 10 2023, 06:57 PM
wonkipop   a titbit at the end for the front badge conscious....   Jan 10 2023, 06:51 PM
Van B   Wonkipop. That logo is all over porsche parts. I ...   Jan 10 2023, 06:57 PM
wonkipop   Wonkipop. That logo is all over porsche parts. I...   Jan 10 2023, 06:59 PM
JeffBowlsby   How is Kinonglas pronounced (phonetically)? Kai-n...   Jan 10 2023, 08:34 PM
SirAndy   How is Kinonglas pronounced (phonetically)? Kai-...   Jan 10 2023, 08:51 PM
JeffBowlsby   I reviewed that page too the other day and have th...   Jan 11 2023, 05:56 PM
wonkipop   I reviewed that page too the other day and have t...   Jan 11 2023, 06:25 PM
wonkipop   condensed version over in originality section. jus...   Jan 17 2023, 06:23 AM
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