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| TJB/914 |
Jan 5 2023, 02:10 PM
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Mid-Engn. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,446 Joined: 24-February 03 From: Plymouth & Petoskey, MI Member No.: 346 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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Looking for help if anyone makes these OEM Windshield Sticker's?
Are they different for every model year? Many years ago while restoring my 914 I used a solvent to clean up the windshield glass & destroyed the letters. I would like one for my OEM original windshield (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) This is off as recent 1976 in a local shop for repairs in this photo. Tom Michigan Attached thumbnail(s) |
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| dgw |
Jan 9 2023, 10:33 PM
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Dennis Winter ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 564 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Santa Cruz Mountains Member No.: 106 Region Association: Northern California |
I think this thread is hilarious. I like to read the BAT auctions for 356's. Those guys are anal but entertaining. You guys are having fun with glass and interesting and entertaining. One can always learn something new about Porsches from threads like this.
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| vitamin914 |
Jan 10 2023, 07:34 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 202 Joined: 8-September 21 From: Toronto Canada Member No.: 25,893 Region Association: Canada
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I think this thread is hilarious. I like to read the BAT auctions for 356's. Those guys are anal but entertaining. You guys are having fun with glass and interesting and entertaining. One can always learn something new about Porsches from threads like this. Absolutely fun. That is exactly why we are all here on this forum with our lovely (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) little 914s on the driveway (or on jack stands) !!! Poo poo to the naysayers... @wonkipop I looked at my 914s last night... Some interesting observations. The 74 that has the Sigla w/s has DOT 25 (DELODUR) tempered glass all around. I think it is safe to say all 914s have this supplier (DOT 25) for all tempered parts. Then there are variations DELODUR -1 / - F / -1F. Not sure if we will ever figure that out. What we should be doing is looking at the M number. That is recorded somewhere. Either at the manufacturer (for sure), but I would think they had to be submitted to the DOT, or the NHTSA for safety compliance. Question is, who could be asked to dig up 50+ year old records...? I'm sure they must still exist in a filing cabinet somewhere... The 74 has M173 (-F) on the sides. This is the tinted glass EXCEPT for the left side large door glass, it has M202 (-1F). To me that means it has been replaced somewhere in time. M202 would be a different piece of glass - likely either the tint composition / raw glass supplier or the thickness. The back window is M93 (clear glass). On the 73, the tempered glass is M93 all around meaning it is all clear glass. So the takeaway for me is you could order heat protection glass for the windshield, side glass (M173 or M202 for tint and M93 for clear) or a combination, but the back glass was always clear M93 (M930 with a heating grid). |
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Jan 10 2023, 02:49 PM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,277 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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I think this thread is hilarious. I like to read the BAT auctions for 356's. Those guys are anal but entertaining. You guys are having fun with glass and interesting and entertaining. One can always learn something new about Porsches from threads like this. Absolutely fun. That is exactly why we are all here on this forum with our lovely (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) little 914s on the driveway (or on jack stands) !!! Poo poo to the naysayers... @wonkipop I looked at my 914s last night... Some interesting observations. The 74 that has the Sigla w/s has DOT 25 (DELODUR) tempered glass all around. I think it is safe to say all 914s have this supplier (DOT 25) for all tempered parts. Then there are variations DELODUR -1 / - F / -1F. Not sure if we will ever figure that out. What we should be doing is looking at the M number. That is recorded somewhere. Either at the manufacturer (for sure), but I would think they had to be submitted to the DOT, or the NHTSA for safety compliance. Question is, who could be asked to dig up 50+ year old records...? I'm sure they must still exist in a filing cabinet somewhere... The 74 has M173 (-F) on the sides. This is the tinted glass EXCEPT for the left side large door glass, it has M202 (-1F). To me that means it has been replaced somewhere in time. M202 would be a different piece of glass - likely either the tint composition / raw glass supplier or the thickness. The back window is M93 (clear glass). On the 73, the tempered glass is M93 all around meaning it is all clear glass. So the takeaway for me is you could order heat protection glass for the windshield, side glass (M173 or M202 for tint and M93 for clear) or a combination, but the back glass was always clear M93 (M930 with a heating grid). you are dead right @vitamin914 . DOT 25 - all that comes from flachglas gmbh. they do all the toughened (tempered for Jeff) glass. branded as delodur. and also the sigla windscreen you have. DOT 25. you have a full flachglas car mate. pure breed. it would be all original glass that one. i've got the factory cross bred mongrel. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) with the DOT 31 windscreen. kinonglas. swallowed up and disappeared a long time ago into the Saint Gobain empire of world domination. that company must have no cheese eating surrender monkeys on the payroll. EDIT ps your one piece of 1F sideglass is the glass they started using in 76 for tinted instead of F. supercedes the F i think. so its had a broken window down the line and the replacement glass has probably come from porsche as the new part. yes on the "tinted" windscreens too being properly described as heat protected. the SIGLA looks like it did it with both laminations being a green glass. SGG the KINONGLAS did it with only the outer lamination being IRA (infra red absorbing) glass. FIRA/F. clear versions of the windscreen are notated with an S for Sigla and with F/F for Kinonglass. i have to get my F/F out in the sunlight to see the colour. think its a kind of bluish grey rather than ultra clear - so even the "clear" or standard kinonglass one is kind of darkened. but hey i am probably color blind. |
TJB/914 914 Windshield inside OEM Glass Sticker logo? Jan 5 2023, 02:10 PM
SteveL Pretty sure That is a stamp, not a sticker Jan 5 2023, 03:19 PM
TJB/914
Pretty sure That is a stamp, not a sticker
Stev... Jan 5 2023, 03:32 PM
JeffBowlsby ^^^agree. Not a sticker. Jan 5 2023, 03:24 PM
rick 918-S I thought OEM was sigla.and it is etched in the gl... Jan 5 2023, 03:28 PM
TJB/914
I thought OEM was sigla.and it is etched in the g... Jan 5 2023, 03:36 PM

wonkipop
I thought OEM was sigla.and it is etched in the ... Jan 5 2023, 06:11 PM
TJB/914
I thought OEM was sigla.and it is etched in the g... Jan 5 2023, 03:38 PM
vitamin914 I was a tooling engineer at PPG in the late 80s. ... Jan 5 2023, 04:06 PM
JeffBowlsby Interesting. Can you decipher the date or date co... Jan 5 2023, 04:41 PM
wonkipop
Interesting. Can you decipher the date or date c... Jan 5 2023, 07:10 PM
vitamin914
Interesting. Can you decipher the date or date c... Jan 6 2023, 08:02 AM
wonkipop ok - did some googling as i am always curious.
ki... Jan 5 2023, 06:53 PM
Mikey914 It's like a tempering bug. It's a frit sta... Jan 5 2023, 07:11 PM
TJB/914 Interesting 914 factory information.
I am cleanin... Jan 5 2023, 07:18 PM
wonkipop
Interesting 914 factory information.
I am cleani... Jan 5 2023, 07:33 PM
JeffBowlsby The ziggy-zaggy line is the Sigla logo. Jan 5 2023, 08:30 PM
wonkipop
The ziggy-zaggy line is the Sigla logo.
just to... Jan 5 2023, 09:04 PM
wonkipop @JeffBowlsby .
i have a feeling (hunch) but could... Jan 5 2023, 09:21 PM
wonkipop here is how you tell who made the windscreen.
its ... Jan 5 2023, 11:48 PM
vitamin914
the weird logo in the sudglas screen is not a... Jan 6 2023, 06:20 AM
wonkipop amusing bonus digging around on kraut glass.
its r... Jan 6 2023, 12:49 AM
scott_in_nh While my originality concerns don't extend to ... Jan 6 2023, 08:38 AM
vitamin914
While my originality concerns don't extend to... Jan 6 2023, 11:16 AM
TJB/914 :woohoo:
This really opened up the 914 brain tr... Jan 6 2023, 11:06 AM
scott_in_nh Thanks! It makes sense that the year is 1990 a... Jan 6 2023, 11:50 AM
JeffBowlsby What I am seeing in many of the 914 images posted ... Jan 6 2023, 12:03 PM
wonkipop
What I am seeing in many of the 914 images posted... Jan 6 2023, 08:04 PM
wonkipop wow @vitamin914
interesting info download. tha... Jan 6 2023, 07:44 PM
JeffBowlsby Found this with a google search. I wonder what AB... Jan 6 2023, 09:08 PM
wonkipop
Found this with a google search. I wonder what A... Jan 6 2023, 10:29 PM
JeffBowlsby I wonder if you can a few missing smdescriotions s... Jan 6 2023, 11:41 PM
wonkipop
I wonder if you can a few missing smdescriotions ... Jan 6 2023, 11:55 PM
JeffBowlsby I don’t recall, but I don’t think so. Maybe u... Jan 6 2023, 11:02 PM
wonkipop
I don’t recall, but I don’t think so. Maybe ... Jan 7 2023, 12:16 AM
wonkipop @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu... Jan 6 2023, 11:16 PM
wonkipop by the way i think the herz symbol is cute on the ... Jan 7 2023, 12:03 AM
wonkipop @JeffBowlsby
i got my crack researcher on to it.... Jan 7 2023, 01:11 AM
JeffBowlsby A couple of things I am curious about:
On the sid... Jan 7 2023, 11:07 AM
wonkipop @JeffBowlsby
re tough v tempered. down here we... Jan 7 2023, 04:09 PM
wonkipop @JeffBowlsby
i had a look at the car on BAT you ... Jan 7 2023, 04:33 PM
wonkipop to explain a little further about the front screen... Jan 7 2023, 05:41 PM
wonkipop @JeffBowlsby
getting a bit closer on the DELODUR... Jan 7 2023, 06:49 PM
vitamin914 @wonkipop
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/... Jan 7 2023, 07:12 PM
wonkipop thanks for that @vitamin914
your remarks regard... Jan 7 2023, 07:37 PM
wonkipop @vitamin914
that is just brilliant about the sun... Jan 7 2023, 07:52 PM
wonkipop @JeffBowlsby
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bb... Jan 7 2023, 08:30 PM
wonkipop @JeffBowlsby
ok i just went back into PET on win... Jan 7 2023, 08:58 PM
wonkipop @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu... Jan 7 2023, 09:43 PM
wonkipop @JeffBowlsby
one more for you.
i was trying to t... Jan 7 2023, 11:01 PM
wonkipop alright @JeffBowlsby
i dug into heat protected ... Jan 8 2023, 12:44 AM
wonkipop @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu... Jan 8 2023, 01:12 AM
vitamin914 Heat absorbing glass has been around for an awfull... Jan 8 2023, 02:44 PM
wonkipop
Heat absorbing glass has been around for an awful... Jan 8 2023, 03:19 PM
vitamin914
Heat absorbing glass has been around for an awfu... Jan 8 2023, 07:09 PM
wonkipop
[quote name='wonkipop' post='3049984' date='Jan 8... Jan 9 2023, 03:20 PM
wonkipop @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu... Jan 8 2023, 03:10 PM
StarBear @wonkipop
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/... Jan 9 2023, 10:44 AM
wonkipop
@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?show... Jan 9 2023, 03:08 PM
StarBear
[quote name='StarBear' post='3050135' date='Jan 9... Jan 9 2023, 03:52 PM
vitamin914 @StarBear
Is this what the trademark looks like ... Jan 9 2023, 04:12 PM
wonkipop
@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?show... Jan 9 2023, 04:36 PM
StarBear
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s... Jan 9 2023, 04:42 PM
StarBear
@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?show... Jan 10 2023, 08:12 AM
wonkipop @vitamin914
i'm just looking at your certifi... Jan 9 2023, 04:45 PM
vitamin914
@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?show... Jan 9 2023, 08:11 PM
wonkipop
[quote name='wonkipop' post='3050193' date='Jan 9... Jan 9 2023, 08:19 PM
wonkipop @StarBear
thats great you have your "window... Jan 9 2023, 04:54 PM
wonkipop we just need @Van B to pipe in now. :D :D
he h... Jan 9 2023, 05:00 PM
StarBear Here it is. “tinted windshield”. Side glass no... Jan 9 2023, 05:03 PM
wonkipop so this is the late 74 2.0 that was on BAT and ver... Jan 9 2023, 05:09 PM
JeffBowlsby Clear glass was standard and the rear glass was al... Jan 9 2023, 05:23 PM
wonkipop
Clear glass was standard and the rear glass was a... Jan 9 2023, 05:54 PM
wonkipop
Clear glass was standard and the rear glass was a... Jan 11 2023, 05:30 PM
davep
Clear glass was standard and the rear glass was a... Jan 16 2023, 07:26 AM
Van B Here ya go. Such a shame that I have the crack ov... Jan 9 2023, 06:10 PM
wonkipop @Van B
:beer2: :beer2: :beer2: :beer2:
i t... Jan 9 2023, 06:12 PM
BR9 What about my rare Mexican front windshield? Jan 9 2023, 06:19 PM
wonkipop
What about my rare Mexican front windshield?
:... Jan 9 2023, 06:36 PM
wonkipop @Van B and [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2... Jan 9 2023, 06:44 PM
sb914 :blowup: :deadhorse2: 4 pages ? :poke:
Sorry I... Jan 9 2023, 08:13 PM
wonkipop
:blowup: :deadhorse2: 4 pages ? :poke:
Sorry ... Jan 9 2023, 08:25 PM
vitamin914
:blowup: :deadhorse2: 4 pages ? :poke:
Sorry ... Jan 9 2023, 08:31 PM
wonkipop
I think this thread is hilarious. I like to read ... Jan 10 2023, 12:09 AM
StarBear
I think this thread is hilarious. I like to read ... Jan 10 2023, 08:07 AM
L-Jet914 @wonkipop Unfortunately my windshield was replace... Jan 10 2023, 02:15 PM
wonkipop some more trivia you don't have to read :beer... Jan 10 2023, 02:34 PM
Van B Now does sekurit still make replacement glass? Th... Jan 10 2023, 06:49 PM
wonkipop
Now does sekurit still make replacement glass? T... Jan 10 2023, 06:57 PM
wonkipop a titbit at the end for the front badge conscious.... Jan 10 2023, 06:51 PM
Van B Wonkipop. That logo is all over porsche parts. I ... Jan 10 2023, 06:57 PM
wonkipop
Wonkipop. That logo is all over porsche parts. I... Jan 10 2023, 06:59 PM
JeffBowlsby How is Kinonglas pronounced (phonetically)?
Kai-n... Jan 10 2023, 08:34 PM
SirAndy
How is Kinonglas pronounced (phonetically)?
Kai-... Jan 10 2023, 08:51 PM
JeffBowlsby I reviewed that page too the other day and have th... Jan 11 2023, 05:56 PM
wonkipop
I reviewed that page too the other day and have t... Jan 11 2023, 06:25 PM
wonkipop condensed version over in originality section.
jus... Jan 17 2023, 06:23 AM![]() ![]() |
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