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> Glasurit 22 Line?, Looking for experience or availability
Van B
post Jan 17 2023, 03:36 PM
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Seems like this would be the best hope of replicating the nuance of my L13M Saturn yellow that was badly missed with its previous paint job. But, I can’t seem to find anyone who can source it or much less has experience with it.

Anyone out there in 914 World have experience, advice, or sourcing tips they care to pass along? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/yellow914.JPG)
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post Jan 21 2023, 09:43 AM
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@wonkipop there are many areas that will need to be taken down to bare metal and re layered from the bottom up: etch, prime, seal, paint. That sealer step is almost always skipped on budget or home repaints. Which means poor adhesion and moisture penetration under the paint.

The BASF website and that stupid blue BMW profile shot have been a fixture on my chrome tabs for a few weeks now… along with this site:
https://www.chemmasters.net/VOCmap.php

I’m avoiding ultra low VOC states because my opinion is that a single stage paint needs VOCs in order to perform.


@StarBear I’m just kidding with you… unless that intern actually does run the company now?!

@targa72e . Would mind elaborating a little more on how you got topcoat finish out of the base only? I’m intrigued
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post Jan 21 2023, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE(Van B @ Jan 21 2023, 09:43 AM) *

@wonkipop

The BASF website and that stupid blue BMW profile shot have been a fixture on my chrome tabs for a few weeks now… along with this site:
https://www.chemmasters.net/VOCmap.php



interesting map.

the blue states are federal EPA standards.

here.

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-1998...df/98-22657.pdf

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Glasurit 22 line VOC data sheet.

https://techinfo.glasurit.com/en_UK/PKW_VOC...2_VOC_print.pdf

theoretically still complies in the blue states.
VOC level of 22 = 419 g/litre.
under fed EPA level of 600g/litre.

i can't see any revision of those EPA regs (that date from 1998/99 approx).
though anything that is not a blue state has its own tighter regs that over-rule.

if Glasurit 22 is difficult to get it can only be a decision by BASF to manufacture a uniform set of products within USA and to limit importation of paints from European Plants.
ie they have decided to simply manufacture to the more severe VOC standards of the other coloured states.

this may be the case in Australia too.
i am unaware to what extent BASF manufactures paint here, but i would think they would rather than ship it.
i know for a fact that the 22 line that you can get here is imported and not manufactured in Aus. and its not necessarily illegal. just a grey area.

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i'm thinking this is covid related. ie disruption to global sea shipping and freight.
this paint would be sea shipped. i reckon BASF and others would have pulled manufacture back to possibly one or two factories in Europe for 22. it would be a shrinking sales line restricted to really specialist use in restorations. strategy would have worked fine in pre covid world with sea freight the way it was. but now they have just dropped it in countries where they don't manufacture it. freight is too hard.

the retailer who sells it here is sourcing from the UK and is doing his own shipping.
i'm betting it takes him a while to get new stocks in too. the stories i hear about how long freight is taking to reach australia is fairly interesting.

hence what you are looking for is someone similar to the current supplier here.
some-one shipping in the paint and retailing it to small circle of resto shops who want and have to use it. for certain customers. thats my reason for suggesting you try directly contacting specialist restorers and talking to them.

as far as i can work out this would not be in breach of EPA in all the blue states.
the paint appears to conform to standards.
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Van B   Glasurit 22 Line?   Jan 17 2023, 03:36 PM
Van B   Here’s a link for folks that are curious: https...   Jan 17 2023, 03:43 PM
StarBear   Here’s a link for folks that are curious: http...   Jan 17 2023, 03:44 PM
Van B   I’m looking for enough to do a repaint… trying...   Jan 17 2023, 03:52 PM
wonkipop   i take it you are only going so far as prep but no...   Jan 17 2023, 04:20 PM
Van B   All I do is search for things these days lol…. I...   Jan 17 2023, 04:57 PM
Superhawk996   Is the question about single stage Urethane or mor...   Jan 17 2023, 05:48 PM
Aerostatwv   I ordered a can of Zambezi Green from https://www....   Jan 17 2023, 06:17 PM
wonkipop   i think @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index....   Jan 17 2023, 07:13 PM
Van B   @Superhawk996 [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/b...   Jan 17 2023, 07:33 PM
wonkipop   [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s...   Jan 17 2023, 07:50 PM
Superhawk996   I bought the best full face respirator that 3M ...   Jan 17 2023, 08:39 PM
wonkipop   an aside on base/clear coat cars with some of the ...   Jan 17 2023, 07:41 PM
Superhawk996   Comparison between two brands PPG (on left) vs Sik...   Jan 17 2023, 08:54 PM
nivekdodge   I don't know where to start. in it's Mar...   Jan 17 2023, 09:28 PM
wonkipop   I don't know where to start. in it's Ma...   Jan 17 2023, 09:53 PM
Van B   I don't know where to start. in it's Ma...   Jan 17 2023, 09:59 PM
Can-Am   I think you'll have better luck approximating ...   Jan 17 2023, 09:59 PM
Superhawk996   Yellows and red toners are some of the most exp...   Jan 18 2023, 12:14 AM
Van B   @Superhawk996 . I realized just how far off the cu...   Jan 17 2023, 10:01 PM
nivekdodge   Closest city on MD?   Jan 17 2023, 11:14 PM
Van B   I’m south of DC in Waldorf, MD. But I’m stati...   Jan 17 2023, 11:22 PM
gereed75   Kevin. Where are you in Pittsburgh. I’m in sou...   Jan 18 2023, 12:00 AM
wonkipop   i think i can see what you mean about the correct ...   Jan 18 2023, 12:22 AM
Van B   Yeah L13M. The eye notices green better than any ...   Jan 18 2023, 12:31 AM
wonkipop   Yeah L13M. The eye notices green better than any...   Jan 18 2023, 01:27 AM
wonkipop   word back from d is one word. glasurit. all the ...   Jan 19 2023, 01:21 AM
Superhawk996   i've got to say i love block sanding this pr...   Jan 19 2023, 07:32 AM
930cabman   [quote name='wonkipop' post='3052189' date='Jan 1...   Jan 19 2023, 07:41 AM
wonkipop   [quote name='wonkipop' post='3052189' date='Jan ...   Jan 19 2023, 02:50 PM
Superhawk996   i'd want to practice on a lot of letterboxes...   Jan 19 2023, 05:57 PM
wonkipop   [quote name='wonkipop' post='3052305' date='Jan 1...   Jan 19 2023, 07:48 PM
Superhawk996   No doubts about the product(s). BASF has been aro...   Jan 19 2023, 06:54 AM
wonkipop   As far as the guide powder - no doubts that it w...   Jan 19 2023, 02:57 PM
Van B   Thanks @wonkipop . I agree with the tribe that m...   Jan 19 2023, 12:05 PM
Van B   @Superhawk996 is telling the truth! The last...   Jan 19 2023, 08:44 PM
wonkipop   [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s...   Jan 20 2023, 12:36 AM
Superhawk996   [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?...   Jan 20 2023, 07:17 AM
Van B   the question for me is how am I able to be so succ...   Jan 20 2023, 09:02 AM
Superhawk996   I did some Google on your behalf and have a bad fe...   Jan 20 2023, 10:08 AM
vitamin914   I did some Google on your behalf and have a bad f...   Jan 20 2023, 10:47 AM
wonkipop   I did some Google on your behalf and have a bad f...   Jan 20 2023, 02:40 PM
Can-Am   There is a WESCO paint store in Mesa Az that I...   Jan 20 2023, 11:14 AM
wonkipop   this topic did get me interested to know once and ...   Jan 20 2023, 03:48 PM
StarBear   BTW, I worked for BASF 1986-99. Got the original Z...   Jan 20 2023, 04:34 PM
wonkipop   BTW, I worked for BASF 1986-99. Got the original ...   Jan 20 2023, 04:41 PM
wonkipop   BTW, I worked for BASF 1986-99. Got the original ...   Jan 20 2023, 05:21 PM
wonkipop   here is a thread i found on samba along the way. g...   Jan 20 2023, 04:35 PM
Van B   Too funny to see all of you confirming all my rese...   Jan 20 2023, 05:46 PM
wonkipop   come in @StarBear . calling starbear. :beer1:...   Jan 20 2023, 06:09 PM
StarBear   come in [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/in...   Jan 21 2023, 09:00 AM
Van B   @Can-Am thanks for the lead. It’s definitely w...   Jan 20 2023, 07:56 PM
Van B   @wonkipop that samba thread is what I saw early o...   Jan 20 2023, 08:00 PM
Van B   @Superhawk996 . Well apparently capital paint and ...   Jan 20 2023, 08:04 PM
StarBear   [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s...   Jan 21 2023, 09:05 AM
Superhawk996   :hissyfit: :confused: PPG buddy - just sayinâ...   Jan 20 2023, 08:08 PM
Van B   :hissyfit: :confused: PPG buddy - just sayin...   Jan 20 2023, 09:14 PM
Superhawk996   :hissyfit: :confused: PPG buddy - just sayi...   Jan 20 2023, 09:18 PM
wonkipop   have you got to this point in BASF Glasurit USA we...   Jan 20 2023, 10:48 PM
wonkipop   have you got to this point in BASF Glasurit USA w...   Jan 21 2023, 12:12 AM
targa72e   I purchased Gasurit from capital paint in Denver a...   Jan 21 2023, 12:17 AM
Van B   @wonkipop there are many areas that will need to...   Jan 21 2023, 09:43 AM
wonkipop   [b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s...   Jan 21 2023, 04:25 PM
Superhawk996   You gotta’ remind me where did the paint OCD sta...   Jan 21 2023, 11:55 AM
Van B   It's best you don't ask those kinds of que...   Jan 21 2023, 12:39 PM
StarBear   It's best you don't ask those kinds of qu...   Jan 21 2023, 02:05 PM
Superhawk996   It's best you don't ask those kinds of qu...   Jan 21 2023, 06:40 PM
wonkipop   @Van B time to try a different route for a while...   Jan 21 2023, 04:00 PM
nivekdodge   I don't know where to start. in it's Ma...   Jan 21 2023, 05:15 PM
wonkipop   @Van B i've worked out the same thing is goi...   Jan 21 2023, 07:23 PM
targa72e   @wonkipop I have painted a few cars but not a pro...   Jan 21 2023, 11:46 PM


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