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| sjhenry1075 |
Dec 8 2022, 09:22 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 270 Joined: 22-July 12 From: Stevensville, MD Member No.: 14,709 Region Association: North East States
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Hey everyone,
I'm in the process of sourcing parts for my 2056 build. I was able to find 2.0 heads that will be rebuilt by a local machine shop, and I found a set of very nice 40 IDF Weber carbs. I'll also be using my 1.7 case. My question is this: for the engine internals, where can I find these parts? I did see on the Fat Rimco website that they sell a short block kit for $2650 that includes the following: FAT Camshaft FC 442 Camshaft / FC 440 If Smog 71mm Type 4 Crankshaft 2.0 Connecting Rods - Rebuilt 96mm Forged Pistons & Cylinders - Keith Black WEB Lifters Front Oil Seal Rear Main Seal Gasket Set - German Engine Hardware Kit - Nuts & Bolts Main Bearings - Silverline Rod Bearings - Mahle HD Double Thrust Cam Bearings (2 Sets of STD) What does everyone think about the price? I know some would not refer Fat Rimco for an engine build, but they will just supply the parts, not doing the actual build. Thoughts? |
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| 930cabman |
Dec 9 2022, 08:48 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,322 Joined: 12-November 20 From: Buffalo Member No.: 24,877 Region Association: North East States
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I am no professional engine builder, but have built several over the years. My recent 2056 came in around 8.8. She runs great, nice punch with Weber 44's and an Elgin street cam. My gut tells me anything over 9.0 is potentially asking for trouble (for a street machine) Keep us updated with your build
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| barringtonpro |
Feb 6 2023, 06:59 AM
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 11 Joined: 21-April 13 From: NE Member No.: 15,792 Region Association: None |
I am no professional engine builder, but have built several over the years. My recent 2056 came in around 8.8. She runs great, nice punch with Weber 44's and an Elgin street cam. My gut tells me anything over 9.0 is potentially asking for trouble (for a street machine) Keep us updated with your build Can I ask which Elgin cam did you use? What rpm did it start to pull from? Also are you using 36mm ventures in the 44 webers or did you choke them down? Thanks Frank |
| VaccaRabite |
Feb 6 2023, 07:36 AM
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En Garde! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 13,807 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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I am no professional engine builder, but have built several over the years. My recent 2056 came in around 8.8. She runs great, nice punch with Weber 44's and an Elgin street cam. My gut tells me anything over 9.0 is potentially asking for trouble (for a street machine) Keep us updated with your build Can I ask which Elgin cam did you use? What rpm did it start to pull from? Also are you using 36mm ventures in the 44 webers or did you choke them down? Thanks Frank When I was running my 2056 engine with 9.2:1 compression, it ran better with 44s then it did with 40s, but it was all top end power. When I moved to 40s I started having overheating issues and had a bear of a time getting the jetting right. In the end I lowered compression to 8.6:1 and put on non-stock fuel injection. I lowered the compression to keep heat in check, and the fuel injection as I was tired of dealing with crappy carbs. Thousands of miles and many years later then engine has been a champ. A very fun motor for a 914. By the way (not sure of the OP ever bought parts) My 2056 used a 1.7 case, stock 2.0 crank and rods, Keith Black flattop pistons, bored out stock 2.0 jugs, ceramic lifters, Raby cam (now Len's Type4 Store), solid valve train spacers, etc. Zach |
| DRPHIL914 |
Feb 6 2023, 09:38 AM
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Dr. Phil ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,867 Joined: 9-December 09 From: Bluffton, SC Member No.: 11,106 Region Association: South East States
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I am no professional engine builder, but have built several over the years. My recent 2056 came in around 8.8. She runs great, nice punch with Weber 44's and an Elgin street cam. My gut tells me anything over 9.0 is potentially asking for trouble (for a street machine) Keep us updated with your build Can I ask which Elgin cam did you use? What rpm did it start to pull from? Also are you using 36mm ventures in the 44 webers or did you choke them down? Thanks Frank When I was running my 2056 engine with 9.2:1 compression, it ran better with 44s then it did with 40s, but it was all top end power. When I moved to 40s I started having overheating issues and had a bear of a time getting the jetting right. In the end I lowered compression to 8.6:1 and put on non-stock fuel injection. I lowered the compression to keep heat in check, and the fuel injection as I was tired of dealing with crappy carbs. Thousands of miles and many years later then engine has been a champ. A very fun motor for a 914. By the way (not sure of the OP ever bought parts) My 2056 used a 1.7 case, stock 2.0 crank and rods, Keith Black flattop pistons, bored out stock 2.0 jugs, ceramic lifters, Raby cam (now Len's Type4 Store), solid valve train spacers, etc. Zach @VaccaRabite Zach My motor numbers etc are very close to yours, i think its just under or tat 9.0 CR and the 9590 cam profile, i think, with the new AA head castings, etc. and still using the D-jet with bored out TB, what TB /s are you using for intake and what FI control system? Phil |
sjhenry1075 Parts for 2056 Dec 8 2022, 09:22 AM
Montreal914 Parts and machining: European Motorworks in Hawtho... Dec 8 2022, 10:05 AM
930cabman All good suggestions, may I add:
D Elgin camshaft... Dec 8 2022, 10:22 AM
914werke If you local machine shop has the ability to do th... Dec 8 2022, 11:16 AM
sjhenry1075
If you local machine shop has the ability to do t... Dec 8 2022, 11:21 AM
sportlicherFahrer I picked up a nice set of pistons and cylinders an... Dec 8 2022, 11:28 AM
barefoot You didn't mention any work needed on the case... Dec 8 2022, 03:59 PM
mepstein Billy Ring
Performance auto works
Kerneysville WV
... Dec 8 2022, 04:56 PM
BeatNavy
Billy Ring
Performance auto works
Kerneysville WV... Dec 8 2022, 07:25 PM
sjhenry1075
Billy Ring
Performance auto works
Kerneysville W... Dec 9 2022, 05:57 AM
BeatNavy There's a ton of people here who can wax more ... Dec 9 2022, 06:34 AM
sjhenry1075
There's a ton of people here who can wax more... Dec 9 2022, 08:48 AM
VaccaRabite
Don't you have a 2056? What cam did you use?... Dec 9 2022, 10:00 AM
sjhenry1075
Don't you have a 2056? What cam did you use... Dec 9 2022, 10:08 AM
VaccaRabite
Zach
My motor numbers etc are very close to you... Feb 8 2023, 09:37 AM
DRPHIL914
Zach
My motor numbers etc are very close to yo... Feb 8 2023, 09:45 AM
BeatNavy Steve, I have a 2056 with a 9590 sitting on my gar... Dec 9 2022, 10:50 AM
BeatNavy I should also add that the 9590, when used with FI... Dec 9 2022, 11:04 AM
sjhenry1075
I should also add that the 9590, when used with F... Dec 9 2022, 12:00 PM
JamesJ Not to pull away from OP's question, but it is... Dec 9 2022, 12:17 PM
mepstein
Not to pull away from OP's question, but it i... Dec 9 2022, 12:53 PM
JamesJ
You really have to figure out what made the engin... Dec 9 2022, 06:46 PM
BeatNavy If the car was running like a champ, then I wouldn... Dec 9 2022, 06:58 PM
sjhenry1075
You really have to figure out what made the engi... Dec 9 2022, 08:54 PM
barnfind9141972
You really have to figure out what made the eng... Dec 10 2022, 01:09 AM
sjhenry1075
[quote name='sjhenry1075' date='Dec 9... Dec 10 2022, 09:35 AM
BeatNavy Yeah, in and of itself, the higher CR wouldn't... Dec 9 2022, 01:58 PM
JamesJ @sjhenry1075
Jorge at EM is the one who built my... Dec 10 2022, 11:06 AM
Montreal914 Jorge at EM is the one who built my engine. I had... Dec 10 2022, 01:53 PM

JamesJ
Jorge at EM is the one who built my engine. I ha... Dec 10 2022, 11:21 PM
sjhenry1075
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s... Dec 10 2022, 07:26 PM
JeffBowlsby
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?... Dec 10 2022, 11:47 PM
sjhenry1075
[quote name='sjhenry1075' post='3044488' date='De... Dec 11 2022, 08:17 AM
Geezer914 2056, 9550 cam, Hoffman RS heads, 9:1 CR, 50 mm mo... Feb 6 2023, 10:35 AM![]() ![]() |
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