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> What to do if you lost your keys?, Another key question
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post Jan 31 2023, 08:33 PM
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We are getting really close to the finish line on the 75' so getting down to small stuff.

Apparently, the 2 steel keys that came with the car are valet keys that only open the doors and work in the ignition. So, the other 3 locks don't have a key.

If I'm to ever have a proper red and black key, is there a way to make a key from the say trunk lock?

If you would get a Porsche CoA does it have key codes?
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post Feb 1 2023, 06:12 AM
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Take the key you have to a local locksmith and have him make a copy from a P05 blank and see if that fits the trunks and glovebox. If no, I can make them work
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post Feb 6 2023, 11:39 AM
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QUOTE(TheCabinetmaker @ Feb 1 2023, 04:12 AM) *

Take the key you have to a local locksmith and have him make a copy from a P05 blank and see if that fits the trunks and glovebox. If no, I can make them work


The local locksmith only could duplicate the steel key.

I tried to email you about making some keys but I'm not sure email or PM works for me all the time...could be a user problem.
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post Feb 6 2023, 11:59 AM
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QUOTE(Type 47 @ Feb 6 2023, 12:39 PM) *
The local locksmith only could duplicate the steel key.

Just to ensure you understand...the cut is exactly the same for the valet and trunks/glovebox keys; the only difference is the blank used.

Curtis is the man on this, he replied above to ask for a P05 blank. Can the local guy get that blank? If so, have him cut that blank to match the valet keys you have. - GA
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QUOTE(GregAmy @ Feb 6 2023, 09:59 AM) *

QUOTE(Type 47 @ Feb 6 2023, 12:39 PM) *
The local locksmith only could duplicate the steel key.

Just to ensure you understand...the cut is exactly the same for the valet and trunks/glovebox keys; the only difference is the blank used.

Curtis is the man on this, he replied above to ask for a P05 blank. Can the local guy get that blank? If so, have him cut that blank to match the valet keys you have. - GA


Thanks for the clarification, I get it (I think) now.

So the P05 blank is a Porsche blank? Like pictured below?

I had a knock off black blank laying around, so that is what the locksmith keyed. It still only turns in the door/ignition.

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QUOTE(Type 47 @ Feb 6 2023, 02:27 PM) *
So the P05 blank is a Porsche blank? Like pictured below?

Correct. The middle key is for the doors and ignition; note that it does not have that additional longitudinal slot? That's what activates the "valet" wafer. But the key code is (supposed to be) exactly the same.

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I had a knock off black blank laying around, so that is what the locksmith keyed. It still only turns in the door/ignition.

OK, so that indicates that someone may have replaced your ignition tumbler and it no longer matches the doors and trunk/box.

In that case, you're going to need to get the ignition barrel adjusted for that key you have. Curtis is the man for that @TheCabinetMaker

GA

EDIT: Follow up: in comparing those keys, it looks like the black middle one is not EXACTLY the same? Maybe try jiggling around the key in the ignition tumbler as you lightly turn it? Otherwise, contact Curt.

EDIT 2: and Curt can cut a key based on that photo above...and so can anyone else with the skills. And this forum gets sucked up by spiders for addition to the Internet Archive (for forever). Might want to remove that attachment and just send it direct to Curt.
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QUOTE(GregAmy @ Feb 6 2023, 01:54 PM) *

QUOTE(Type 47 @ Feb 6 2023, 02:27 PM) *
So the P05 blank is a Porsche blank? Like pictured below?

Correct. The middle key is for the doors and ignition; note that it does not have that additional longitudinal slot? That's what activates the "valet" wafer. But the key code is (supposed to be) exactly the same.

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I had a knock off black blank laying around, so that is what the locksmith keyed. It still only turns in the door/ignition.

OK, so that indicates that someone may have replaced your ignition tumbler and it no longer matches the doors and trunk/box.

In that case, you're going to need to get the ignition barrel adjusted for that key you have. Curtis is the man for that @TheCabinetMaker

GA

EDIT: Follow up: in comparing those keys, it looks like the black middle one is not EXACTLY the same? Maybe try jiggling around the key in the ignition tumbler as you lightly turn it? Otherwise, contact Curt.

EDIT 2: and Curt can cut a key based on that photo above...and so can anyone else with the skills. And this forum gets sucked up by spiders for addition to the Internet Archive (for forever). Might want to remove that attachment and just send it direct to Curt.

curios what does sucked up by spiders relate to?
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QUOTE(914043 @ Feb 6 2023, 11:20 PM) *
curios what does sucked up by spiders relate to?

Internet "spiders", "crawlers". These are web engines that scan the Internet and cull all the data - posts, files, photos, etc - into databases. Examples include Bing and Google's search engine, but also the Internet Archive:

https://archive.org/web/

(I can't get into it right now but that could be because it's blocked at work).

The Web Archive is a major non-profit project to collect and store "all" the information on the Internet. Yeah, it's as big a project as it sounds. But, basically, its engines are constantly "crawling" the Internet and collecting publicly-available information (unless the web administrator puts code in the page requesting not to, which legit engines will honor).

Bottom line, everything that's posted on the Internet is being collected into the Internet Archive where it will be stored forever...well, as long as we have electricity lol...

A useful example for us is the 914 electrical diagrams that USED to be hosted on Pelican's web site, but they were removed, I'm told due to a copyright conflict. However, these diagrams were collected into the Internet Archive and are still available there.

A downside example is that if you post photos of your key, it can be used to make a copy. Now, what's the chances that someone will find THAT car and want to copy THAT key, and will know where to find that photo? Damned near zero, but...it's not exactly zero. Discretion is useful.

So keep in mind that anything you put on the Internet is subject to being stored forever, and publicly available, even if you later delete it...

GA

Edit Useful note: ever go to a forum and see that's there's a lot of not-logged-in "guests" on it? Sure, some of those are humans but a very very big chunk of those are web crawlers...constantly crawling...

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Type 47   What to do if you lost your keys?   Jan 31 2023, 08:33 PM
GregAmy   @TheCabinetMaker It's quite possible that al...   Jan 31 2023, 08:35 PM
Type 47   Sweet, thank you   Jan 31 2023, 08:44 PM
infraredcalvin   The differences between the valet key and the blac...   Jan 31 2023, 09:34 PM
TheCabinetmaker   Take the key you have to a local locksmith and hav...   Feb 1 2023, 06:12 AM
914rrr   Take the key you have to a local locksmith and ha...   Feb 1 2023, 12:27 PM
Type 47   Take the key you have to a local locksmith and ha...   Feb 6 2023, 11:39 AM
GregAmy   The local locksmith only could duplicate the steel...   Feb 6 2023, 11:59 AM
Type 47   The local locksmith only could duplicate the stee...   Feb 6 2023, 01:27 PM
GregAmy   So the P05 blank is a Porsche blank? Like picture...   Feb 6 2023, 03:54 PM
Type 47   EDIT 2: and Curt can cut a key based on that photo...   Feb 6 2023, 04:57 PM
Type 47   It does work in the ignition and the doors.   Feb 6 2023, 04:59 PM
914043   [quote name='Type 47' post='3055991' date='Feb 6 ...   Feb 6 2023, 10:20 PM
Type 47   [quote name='Type 47' post='3055991' date='Feb 6...   Feb 6 2023, 11:27 PM
GregAmy   curios what does sucked up by spiders relate to? I...   Feb 7 2023, 07:58 AM
TheCabinetmaker   I make keys to the factory code from a picture of ...   Feb 1 2023, 02:41 PM
914043   just a thought, look at the cut profile detail on ...   Feb 6 2023, 02:29 PM
GregAmy   I does work in the ignition and the doors. Oh, I ...   Feb 6 2023, 05:07 PM
davep   When I purchase the data for my CoA-type reports I...   Feb 6 2023, 05:47 PM
TheCabinetmaker   @type47 Sending a pm   Feb 6 2023, 10:25 PM
914043   Thank you GregAmy for helping the rest of us to be...   Feb 7 2023, 12:17 PM


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