Parts for 2056, Where to source parts Options

[sjhenry1075]

Hey everyone,

I'm in the process of sourcing parts for my 2056 build. I was able to find 2.0 heads that will be rebuilt by a local machine shop, and I found a set of very nice 40 IDF Weber carbs. I'll also be using my 1.7 case.

My question is this: for the engine internals, where can I find these parts? I did see on the Fat Rimco website that they sell a short block kit for $2650 that includes the following:
FAT Camshaft FC 442 Camshaft / FC 440 If Smog
71mm Type 4 Crankshaft
2.0 Connecting Rods - Rebuilt
96mm Forged Pistons & Cylinders - Keith Black
WEB Lifters
Front Oil Seal
Rear Main Seal
Gasket Set - German
Engine Hardware Kit - Nuts & Bolts
Main Bearings - Silverline
Rod Bearings - Mahle
HD Double Thrust Cam Bearings (2 Sets of STD)

What does everyone think about the price? I know some would not refer Fat Rimco for an engine build, but they will just supply the parts, not doing the actual build.

Thoughts?

[930cabman]

I am no professional engine builder, but have built several over the years. My recent 2056 came in around 8.8. She runs great, nice punch with Weber 44's and an Elgin street cam. My gut tells me anything over 9.0 is potentially asking for trouble (for a street machine) Keep us updated with your build

[barringtonpro]

I am no professional engine builder, but have built several over the years. My recent 2056 came in around 8.8. She runs great, nice punch with Weber 44's and an Elgin street cam. My gut tells me anything over 9.0 is potentially asking for trouble (for a street machine) Keep us updated with your build

Can I ask which Elgin cam did you use? What rpm did it start to pull from? Also are you using 36mm ventures in the 44 webers or did you choke them down? Thanks
Frank

[VaccaRabite]

I am no professional engine builder, but have built several over the years. My recent 2056 came in around 8.8. She runs great, nice punch with Weber 44's and an Elgin street cam. My gut tells me anything over 9.0 is potentially asking for trouble (for a street machine) Keep us updated with your build

Can I ask which Elgin cam did you use? What rpm did it start to pull from? Also are you using 36mm ventures in the 44 webers or did you choke them down? Thanks
Frank

When I was running my 2056 engine with 9.2:1 compression, it ran better with 44s then it did with 40s, but it was all top end power. When I moved to 40s I started having overheating issues and had a bear of a time getting the jetting right.

In the end I lowered compression to 8.6:1 and put on non-stock fuel injection. I lowered the compression to keep heat in check, and the fuel injection as I was tired of dealing with crappy carbs. Thousands of miles and many years later then engine has been a champ. A very fun motor for a 914.

By the way (not sure of the OP ever bought parts)
My 2056 used a 1.7 case, stock 2.0 crank and rods, Keith Black flattop pistons, bored out stock 2.0 jugs, ceramic lifters, Raby cam (now Len's Type4 Store), solid valve train spacers, etc.

Zach

[DRPHIL914]

I am no professional engine builder, but have built several over the years. My recent 2056 came in around 8.8. She runs great, nice punch with Weber 44's and an Elgin street cam. My gut tells me anything over 9.0 is potentially asking for trouble (for a street machine) Keep us updated with your build

Can I ask which Elgin cam did you use? What rpm did it start to pull from? Also are you using 36mm ventures in the 44 webers or did you choke them down? Thanks
Frank

When I was running my 2056 engine with 9.2:1 compression, it ran better with 44s then it did with 40s, but it was all top end power. When I moved to 40s I started having overheating issues and had a bear of a time getting the jetting right.

In the end I lowered compression to 8.6:1 and put on non-stock fuel injection. I lowered the compression to keep heat in check, and the fuel injection as I was tired of dealing with crappy carbs. Thousands of miles and many years later then engine has been a champ. A very fun motor for a 914.

By the way (not sure of the OP ever bought parts)
My 2056 used a 1.7 case, stock 2.0 crank and rods, Keith Black flattop pistons, bored out stock 2.0 jugs, ceramic lifters, Raby cam (now Len's Type4 Store), solid valve train spacers, etc.

Zach

@VaccaRabite

Zach
My motor numbers etc are very close to yours, i think its just under or tat 9.0 CR and the 9590 cam profile, i think, with the new AA head castings, etc. and still using the D-jet with bored out TB, what TB /s are you using for intake and what FI control system?

Phil

[VaccaRabite]

Zach
My motor numbers etc are very close to yours, i think its just under or tat 9.0 CR and the 9590 cam profile, i think, with the new AA head castings, etc. and still using the D-jet with bored out TB, what TB /s are you using for intake and what FI control system?

Phil

For my current motor, I am using a 1.8 intake plenum and runners, 1.8 airbox with a deleted flap box. I am using the goWesty throttle body (53mm IIRC over the stock 914 45mm). I have a thread on that somewhere.

Fuel and Spark are run via Microsquirt.

Spark is done through coil packs, and I have crank missing tooth wheel instead of a dizzy.

Before it was tuned how its tuned now, this motor dynoed at 127hp at the wheels, so at the crank its making about 140. I have not put it on a dyno with the current tune, and I pulled a LOT of fuel out of it (it was very very rich) so I don't know what power its making now. I can tell you it's a heck of a motor.

Zach