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> ethanol free gas, should I use ethanol free gas for my 1975 914 2.0?
wd40togo
post Feb 2 2013, 09:10 AM
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I have a 1975 914 2.0, should I be using ethanol free gas? It appears to have the orginal metal gas tank.
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post Feb 20 2023, 10:36 PM
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Yes, very old thread. Couldn't find anything much more recent and relevant.

Up until now, I had ethanol free gas options in Ontario. Not anywhere at a road gas pump in Canada anymore. If any still exists, it won't for much longer.

My go to gas was Shell premium 91 V-Power. Sticker on the pump said zero ethanol. Used it with everything from chainsaws to 914s - anything that could sit around without frequent use. Late last year I noticed the sticker disappeared and changed to may contain up to 10% ethanol. At first I didn't think much of it, but it nagged at me...

Why the change? Did some digging and it seems it is now as of 2022, a Canadian regulation that all fuel must contain ethanol. There seems to have been an exemption because of ethanol availability constraints. Fuel companies could avoid putting alcohol in some fuels. It was great marketing for Shell and the classic car crowd - not so anymore, exemptions are over. Someone claimed to have tested V-power and got 1.25% ethanol. Not verified, but better than having 10%.

Since I had an ethanol free fuel until now it wasn't a big deal. Seems all good things come to an end. I know my 74 with Webers won't like ethanol and I wonder if the 73 2.0 FI is the same?

Every winter I put in a can of Porsche Classic Fuel Additive before hibernation in with a full tank of Shell V-Power.
https://www.porsche.com/international/acces...ights/additive/

I used to be adding it to a ethanol free gas - not now. Is this a solution anymore? add it with every fill up? just for storage? does it even do anything while the car sits for 4 months???

All the fuel stabilizers, ethanol fixes, are on that additive shelf of snake oils. Do any of them actually work? or is it a "pretends to work because you can't tell if it works" snake oil? It can't get rid of the ethanol, maybe it helps suspend it better than just the refinery's additives but the ethanol is still there to attack the rubber, the injectors, the carbs, the fuel tank...

Sure, new cars don't care about ethanol and the government doesn't care about our old classics and in fact would be happy to see them all go to the scrap crusher. What are are the options for our old cars? Avgas I know cannot contain alcohol by aviation laws (vapor lock of an aircraft engine is not good) and ethanol is a big problem in marine gasoline too. Something about trying to fill up with dyed avgas or marine gas tells me that I can't just roll up with the 914 and ask for a fill up (road tax cops?). Maybe show up with the pickup truck and a 55 gallon drum and claim it is for off road use?

What are our options as ethanol creeps into everything? buy drums of toluene or xylene?


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wd40togo   ethanol free gas   Feb 2 2013, 09:10 AM
SLITS   I didn't know you could get ethanol free fuel ...   Feb 2 2013, 09:13 AM
Krieger   If you can find it buy it! Welcome to the clu...   Feb 2 2013, 09:13 AM
billh1963   In SC we actually have a number of stations that s...   Feb 2 2013, 09:19 AM
t collins   i high recommend ethanol free gas! check here ...   Feb 2 2013, 09:26 AM
ArtechnikA   we should all be using ethanol-free gas ;-) ... m...   Feb 2 2013, 09:29 AM
SLITS   Wow ... 5 stations in California, Northern Califor...   Feb 2 2013, 09:33 AM
t collins   Wow ... 5 stations in California, Northern Califo...   Feb 2 2013, 09:39 AM
Tom_T   Wow ... 5 stations in California, Northern Calif...   Feb 2 2013, 11:47 AM
carr914   I have a 1975 914 2.0, should I be using ethanol ...   Feb 2 2013, 09:36 AM
JawjaPorsche   Yes, if you can find it. Your fuel hoses will tha...   Feb 2 2013, 09:44 AM
Ian Stott   For those of you in Canada or if visiting, use She...   Feb 2 2013, 09:48 AM
JamesM   I prefer ethanol free for any car, not just my 914...   Feb 2 2013, 09:50 AM
914Eric   We have ethanol free premium available here in Ida...   Feb 2 2013, 10:31 AM
carr914   Mechanics I trust tell me it is much less liabl...   Feb 2 2013, 11:50 AM
Type 47   No "E free" fuel here in Missouri...not ...   Feb 2 2013, 11:47 PM
kg6dxn   I wish every station had E85... Then I could turn ...   Feb 3 2013, 12:54 AM
Mark Henry   Did some research on this. You can test your own g...   Feb 3 2013, 06:07 AM
TC 914-8   My local PCA chapter, Olympic Pennisula P C A, has...   Feb 3 2013, 09:54 AM
Mark Henry   OK. The above method works great. What is needed...   Feb 3 2013, 10:10 AM
ArtechnikA   Still looking around the house for a small, tall,...   Feb 3 2013, 10:18 AM
Mark Henry   Still looking around the house for a small, tall...   Feb 3 2013, 10:24 AM
SLITS   Just go to any lab supply and purchase a graduated...   Feb 3 2013, 10:27 AM
Mark Henry   Just go to any lab supply and purchase a graduate...   Feb 3 2013, 12:57 PM
Mark Henry   With gas before shaking.   Feb 3 2013, 12:59 PM
Mark Henry   Known regular gas E-10 it's on the line that i...   Feb 3 2013, 01:00 PM
Mark Henry   This should be shell super.... but it's showin...   Feb 3 2013, 01:02 PM
john_g   Related question: The ethanol-free gas up here is ...   Feb 4 2013, 04:41 PM
Mark Henry   Related question: The ethanol-free gas up here is...   Feb 4 2013, 04:53 PM
john_g   Related question: The ethanol-free gas up here i...   Feb 4 2013, 06:39 PM
Mark Henry   I dug this thread up because of this new thread. ...   Feb 26 2014, 12:05 PM
rgolia   I get ethanol free gas at the local airport in my ...   Feb 26 2014, 12:23 PM
Elliot Cannon   I get ethanol free gas at the local airport in my...   Feb 26 2014, 12:29 PM
Mark Henry   I get ethanol free gas at the local airport in m...   Feb 26 2014, 01:08 PM
Olympic 1.7   Bonus. I checked that Puregas locator and see a ...   Feb 26 2014, 03:31 PM
vitamin914   Yes, very old thread. Couldn't find anything ...   Feb 20 2023, 10:36 PM
Not_A_Six   Yes, very old thread. Couldn't find anything...   Feb 21 2023, 02:45 PM
vitamin914   Yes, very old thread. Couldn't find anythin...   Feb 21 2023, 04:04 PM
Superhawk996   It is going to be a problem for all the classic...   Feb 21 2023, 04:24 PM
Bullethead   What are our options as ethanol creeps into every...   Feb 21 2023, 03:09 PM
GregAmy   That is a tooooon of work just to not have to worr...   Feb 21 2023, 03:14 PM
vitamin914   That is a tooooon of work just to not have to wor...   Feb 21 2023, 04:20 PM
GregAmy   What about the steel gas tanks? and the aluminum a...   Feb 21 2023, 05:23 PM
Superhawk996   What about the steel gas tanks? and the aluminum ...   Feb 21 2023, 09:33 PM
Chris914n6   ^^ the ethanol mandate brought along plastic tanks...   Feb 21 2023, 04:59 PM
Superhawk996   ^^ the ethanol mandate brought along plastic tank...   Feb 21 2023, 09:27 PM
Root_Werks   There's a few stations locally that sell E-Fre...   Feb 22 2023, 11:18 AM
vitamin914   There's a few stations locally that sell E-Fr...   Feb 22 2023, 01:02 PM
GregAmy   A major downside of 100LL AvGas is that it's ...   Feb 22 2023, 11:26 AM
Superhawk996   I don’t know how Canada works, but here in US yo...   Feb 23 2023, 05:29 AM


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